***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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The Iranians did hit some cargo ship in the strait, and USN said it's not ready to escort civilian traffic yet. Also, some injured at the Kuwait airport from a drone strike. Other than that, pretty good news overnight.

Also I read this am it was only the thaad interceptors, not radar etc. that we are re-deploying from South Korea, which is good news vs. some glooming about destroyed radars earlier.
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nortex97 said:

The Iranians did hit some cargo ship in the strait, and USN said it's not ready to escort civilian traffic yet. Also, some injured at the Kuwait airport from a drone strike. Other than that, pretty good news overnight.

Also I read this am it was only the thaad interceptors, not radar etc. that we are re-deploying from South Korea, which is good news vs. some glooming about destroyed radars earlier.



The munitions concerns here are real…and it's going to be a herculean effort to rebuild stuff.

Feinbergs driving the train but physics is still a thing.
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Sure, it's a real concern, and if this went on for months at the volumes of the first week would be a big problem, but I don't think that is 'the plan' as it were.

We don't have a surplus of oilers, nor minesweepers though.


The USN has been horribly run/managed for years imho, but especially when it comes to procurement and sustainment.
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You are guessing that we have not been blowing them up before.

or that they were not on a ATO Air Tasking Order with the other 3,678 target lists
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USS George HW Bush should be near Straits of Gibraltar by now or through them

French Charles De Gaulle should be in Med in a few days

Dutch Navy Corvette approaching

British Destroyer Dragon now moving to Med
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ErnestEndeavor said:




Now lets do the same thing to Mujtaba Khameini's hospital room.
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General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

This represents a deliberate strategic shift from military-to-military engagement toward targeting civilian economic infrastructure, a move that places ordinary American workers, employees of major technology companies, directly in the crosshairs of a regime at war.

This escalation is not a sign of Iranian strength. It is the signature of a losing force making a desperate play.

Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.

Iran's air defense architecture has been severely degraded since strikes began on February 28. Their missile and drone stockpiles are being systematically reduced. Proxy networks across Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen are fractured or operating under significant constraint.

The transition in the supreme leadership with Mojtaba Khamenei installed only days ago creates internal uncertainty at the command level. These are the conditions that produce exactly this kind of escalatory threat: loud, broad, and designed to intimidate rather than defeat.

Threatening US tech sector targets is significant for one specific reason.

It signals Iran is willing to accept international condemnation for targeting civilian economic infrastructure in exchange for the psychological and political impact of threatening American workers on American soil or in American-affiliated facilities abroad. That is a terrorism calculus, not a military one.

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Clearly Iran shifted to fight as they have trained Hezbollah and Hamas. What happens to the Iranian civilian population is only a bonus for them as they meld their operations into the community. It is a shame, what started with bombs needed to end with bullets, but the opposing groups in the country apparently have no viable means to fight.
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The data center of Bank Sepah, Iran's largest bank responsible for paying salaries to members of the Iranian military and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), has been hit.

Implication of the damage:
This disruption is expected to prevent them from paying salaries for a period of time, forcing them to find alternative solutions.
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that is from at least two days ago...
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ErnestEndeavor said:



Crazy how they're sitting on the balcony calmly enjoying the bombing. Almost like they're watching a movie.
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Ag In Ok said:

Clearly Iran shifted to fight as they have trained Hezbollah and Hamas. What happens to the Iranian civilian population is only a bonus for them as they meld their operations into the community. It is a shame, what started with bombs needed to end with bullets, but the opposing groups in the country apparently have no viable means to fight.

Exactly as I have said, without civil war and buckets of blood nothing will change.
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I wonder if we know where the so called 400 Kilograms of enriched uranium is and can we retrieve it or destroy it.? And if you bomb it what are the implications of doing that?
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Buglerank62 said:

I wonder if we know where the so called 400 Kilograms of enriched uranium is and can we retrieve it or destroy it.? And if you bomb it what are the implications of doing that?


Likely way underground and would require significant boots on ground to get to it. It will be heavily guarded.

That's a political hot potato right there.
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Ag87H2O said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Crazy how they're sitting on the balcony calmly enjoying the bombing. Almost like they're watching a movie.


And seems like they're enjoying the hell out of it
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Trump says war to end soon. Israel says no timeliness to stop. Pete H and Rubio say its will continue.

Is this all to confuse??
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/drone-strike-hits-fuel-tanks-at-omani-port-state-media/

Iran hits Oman port
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Dan Scott said:



Hope Iran is ready to lose Kharg Island if they decide to target their neighbors' export capability.
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Buglerank62 said:

I wonder if we know where the so called 400 Kilograms of enriched uranium is and can we retrieve it or destroy it.? And if you bomb it what are the implications of doing that?


Yes we do know

either ISFAHAN or Pickaxe Mountain their new even deeper storage buildings underneath massive mountain ranges

it will be very difficult to bomb as the iranians used dozers to push up tons of dirt on top of the entrances.

THIS is the critical issue we have to figure out a solution to.

460 kilograms of enriched uranium to 60%
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Thanks. Seems like if we know where it is our best and brightist plus the Israelis can figure out a way to neuter this supply. To me this at the crux of the matter.
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To get the uranium, you're going to have to get Saudi, Pakistan, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and whoever else you can convince to join you in a joint ground operation and march in there and take it. Dropping lots of bombs on them won't do it. They all have t be convinced that a nuclear Iran is the most dangerous thing in the world and guess what- they're right in your backyard so if you don't want this we need your help.

Either that or we're going to have a to drop a nuke on them like Japan and get them to surrender.
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LMCane said:

General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

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Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.

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98Ag99Grad said:

To get the uranium, you're going to have to get Saudi, Pakistan, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and whoever else you can convince to join you in a joint ground operation and march in there and take it. Dropping lots of bombs on them won't do it. They all have t be convinced that a nuclear Iran is the most dangerous thing in the world and guess what- they're right in your backyard so if you don't want this we need your help.

Either that or we're going to have a to drop a nuke on them like Japan and get them to surrender.

B-61-11 is designed just for that purpose, but we won't use it.
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unmade bed said:

LMCane said:

General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

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Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.




Yeah, you weren't the only one that caught that and thought it was a weird thing to get all up in arms about by Flynn.
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unmade bed said:

LMCane said:

General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

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Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.




The second paragraph does contradict the first.
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srry. wrong thread.
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cef88 said:

unmade bed said:

LMCane said:

General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

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Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.




The second paragraph does contradict the first.

Was just about to post this. Glad I am not the only one reading the contradiction. But perhaps the difference is the banking infrastructure that was hit inside Iran was not populated by any civilians? I dunno, just trying to draw a guess as to why one is not like the other.
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chrisocker said:

cef88 said:

unmade bed said:

LMCane said:

General Michael Flynn:

Iran has crossed a significant threshold. Following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure inside Iran, Iranian military sources are now threatening retaliatory action against US and Israeli financial centers across the region, with specific signals pointing toward tech sector targets.

….

Regimes that are winning wars fight on the battlefield. They do not threaten banks, financial centers, and technology campuses populated by civilian workers. The decision to escalate toward economic and civilian targets is a calculated gamble by Tehran, an attempt to generate enough global economic disruption and political pressure to force Washington and Jerusalem to stand down before the military situation deteriorates further.




The second paragraph does contradict the first.

Was just about to post this. Glad I am not the only one reading the contradiction. But perhaps the difference is the banking infrastructure that was hit inside Iran was not populated by any civilians? I dunno, just trying to draw a guess as to why one is not like the other.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, targeting a bank that funds/distributes pay to the IRGC does not equal targeting banks and financial institutions for civilians. He should have made a better job of that distinction.
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Quote:

THIS is the critical issue we have to figure out a solution to.

460 kilograms of enriched uranium to 60%

This is the most important target, at least for the region. According to some reports the 'new guy' Motjaba will present a more dangerous ideologue than his father.

Quote:

"Mojtaba, at that time, was very hypocritical. He says something, but inside him there is something totally different," Rajabi recounted to The Post. Rajabi had earlier told The Atlantic that his former study partner was obsessed with the end of days and had believed "he himself will have a special part in hastening humanity down that path."

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-889608


Continuing:

Quote:

"He wants to win time. He wants to trick the Americans and the region to win trust… he thinks that first he needs to control the Middle East region, and for him it is more of a religious matter than a geopolitical matter,"

That being said perhaps Mossad would have no qualms about taking Motjaba out from a hospital bed. A religious zealot is not a sane person.

880lbs of 60% uranium still needs to be secured.
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