***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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sts7049
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seems like their attempt at propaganda to feign control of "something"

just as a couple weeks ago when they posted video of them "seizing" the MSC vessel, which was clearly staged
AgEngineer72
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What am I missing with the Iranian story of seizing a Chinese tanker? I thought Iran wanted to export their oil. Desperately so. So what did this seizure accomplish? Is this just them puffing up their chest to try to prove they are still a fighting force?
LMCane
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AgEngineer72 said:

What am I missing with the Iranian story of seizing a Chinese tanker? I thought Iran wanted to export their oil. Desperately so. So what did this seizure accomplish? Is this just them puffing up their chest to try to prove they are still a fighting force?

putting pressure on the CHICOMS who need the oil

LMCane
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at this point we in the F16-

know more about what is happening in the Gulf than the rats heading the IRGC hiding in Bunkers in Teheran
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LMCane said:

at this point we in the F16-

know more about what is happening in the Gulf than the rats heading the IRGC hiding in Bunkers in Teheran


Is there a more accurate and up to date crowd sourced news aggregator on the Internet than F16? Not that I am aware of.
The Fall Guy
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Iran says more sporadic clashes with the US this morning.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-media-reports-new-sporadic-clashes-with-us-forces-in-hormuz/
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Tailgate88 said:

LMCane said:

at this point we in the F16-

know more about what is happening in the Gulf than the rats heading the IRGC hiding in Bunkers in Teheran


Is there a more accurate and up to date crowd sourced news aggregator on the Internet than F16? Not that I am aware of.

Closest on political news is Instapundit.com. But for any random news story out there, it is hard to beat Texags.
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Interesting video.

LMCane
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MOAR PLEASE

fireinthehole
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nortex97 said:


FA phase, for now. Baghdad Bob:


Liars are going to lie, always.
You are the world, we are the USA, don't mess with us and we won't blow your $hit away.
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I think this game of chicken thru SOH is drawing fire to expose missile sites. Our defenses are far superior
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Deerdude said:

I think this game of chicken thru SOH is drawing fire to expose missile sites. Our defenses are far superior

Solid tactics with the real time dissemination of info and coordinates. Technically advanced whack-a-mole immediately.
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So if I read that correctly, the Iranians are trying to convince everyone that their missile launch capacity has INCREASED since February, not decreased? In what world is that even possible given their production capability being destroyed?
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Shipments from China?
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Philip J Fry said:

Shipments from China?

Via Chinee Cwamel?

Rail and truck would be the only way now to get the stuff in and I have a suspicion we are watching that too.

Now, how many missiles and "missile supplies" have they buried in the tunnels?

It may have been mentioned earlier but they are still targeting the access to tunnels.

That makes for a message quagmire. Do Iran still have missiles and ability to make missiles? Well, in theory its right underneath their feet. In practice, it truly is beneath their feet. Ayatollah says we have what we need and we have to explain they cannot readily access it and we will smoke em if they do.

That latter part will feed in to a mischaracterized forever way.

Whenever a resolution is ultimately achieved, the spin game will explode in earnest.
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Assuming this shows where Iran's fast-boats were intercepted, they likely traveled about 35-40 miles from a Qehsm island port. A quick hop at 60-70 mph. USN should enforce a 30 mph speed limit on all boats in the strait. Break the speed limit and you'll lose your driver's license,

2026NCAggies
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When are we going to unleash the GCC nations on these guys. UAE wants to attack, let them do it with Israel

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AgEngineer72 said:

What am I missing with the Iranian story of seizing a Chinese tanker? I thought Iran wanted to export their oil. Desperately so. So what did this seizure accomplish? Is this just them puffing up their chest to try to prove they are still a fighting force?

When the enemy is making a mistake, hold the line and by all means let them continue.

None of this is going to end well for Iran. It's just a matter of time.
LMCane
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so we are supposed to believe that China when Iran was rich was not sending missiles-

but now China when Iran is bankrupt is giving them free missiles?!!

who believes this?!?!
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disregard, no launch after all
ErnestEndeavor
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Overview of what may have gone down yesterday. The US may have deployed ship-based laser weapons to take down the drones. If proven to be reliable, this completely neuters the Iranian asymmetrical warfare strategy. No more $1,000,000 missile to shoot down a $35,000 drone. Now it's $5 of energy to shoot down your $35,000 drone.

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I noticed Trump mentioned drones were "incinerated" and immediately wondered if he was talking about HELIOS or something similar
The Fall Guy
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/adviser-to-iran-supreme-leader-compares-control-of-hormuz-to-atomic-bomb/

Advisor to to the Supreme Leader compares SOH to an atomic bomb. Lol.
fireinthehole
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Russia and China have been reported to be or will be sending weapons and war communications technology to Iran. To the military experts on here: can we impose a complete blockade, air, land, and sea, on Iran? We control the air. We control the strait. So, why not? No planes, military or civilian into or out of Iran. Bomb the highways and rail, and their bridges, into Iran. Inform Russia that any of their planes attempting to enter Iran will be warned, then shot down. I will hang up and listen.
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nortex97
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No, we can't impose a complete blockade, and no, Russia and China won't be sending anything particularly useful anyway. China shipped some anti-ship missiles which failed evidently, and have provided solid rocket motor fuel chemicals (sodium perchlorate) but those shipments won't go through now. Not an 'expert' but that's my take.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Overview of what may have gone down yesterday. The US may have deployed ship-based laser weapons to take down the drones. If proven to be reliable, this completely neuters the Iranian asymmetrical warfare strategy. No more $1,000,000 missile to shoot down a $35,000 drone. Now it's $5 of energy to shoot down your $35,000 drone.



Why did we not take these bases out during epic fury

I think there are a lot of targets left and we need to get after it sooner than later
MJ20/20
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Unfortunately, Iran's millitary infrastructure, as a whole, is in better shape than originally thought.
fireinthehole
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Ok. Why can't we? Is it capability or will?
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nortex97
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Iran's borders are enormous, and encompass mountainous terrain we don't have access to. It's much larger than Texas. But with 90 million people, they need more than some smugglers to keep operations running.

But make no mistake, we've made no attempt and have no ability to 'completely' seal off their borders from air/land/sea traffic entirely. There's not much of a need to, to be fair. They require heavy industrial shipments via sea (in and out) to sustain their economy/IRGC, such as it is.
fireinthehole
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True, but I am talking about land arteries, not the mountains. They can't get equipment through those. And mountains have no bearing on preventing supply by air. You make good points though that bear on occupation.
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2026NCAggies
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Rubio says he expects an answer on a deal today

I honestly hope they tell us no, we choose war
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They hid some weapons of held them back once they realized we were kicking their ass. Now they are deploying them sparingly when it is necessary to send a political message and grab some headlines. They have limited resources now so they are using their lower cost cheap drones and speedboats with apparently expendable small crews to try to do sttait interdiction and harrass their neighbors. They are hoping their propaganda campaign, playing on internal US divisions and international weakness and oil prices by threatening strait transits will result in concessions by Trump before they have too much internal pressure to subdue.


I'm going to imagine we have been working overtime on locating remaining hardline leadership and planning their demise by air strike. Also, starting a rolling destruction of military assets from the coast inwards would help open the strait the hard way. I imagine we've been refining our tactics out there to be more effective and efficient too.

I don't think we move until Trump gauges China. If they help us pressure Iran into accepting our terms, they get all the oil they want to buy. Seems like a better way to go for everyone. We shall see.
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I agree with this. However, I wonder what "too much internal pressure" looks like for these people. They don't care about their general population it seems, and they aren't exactly worried about votes. Is there anything that matters to them more than their evil endeavors? I guess capital to pursue them!
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2026NCAggies said:

Rubio says he expects an answer on a deal today

I honestly hope they tell us no, we choose war


Yes, because they will not abide by a deal anyway. Finish them.
You are the world, we are the USA, don't mess with us and we won't blow your $hit away.
MouthBQ98
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At some point, broke and hungry people get desperate and angry.

I do seem to recall that Germans in the later part of WW2 endured considerable suffering and never really rebelled against the Nazis, but o don't believe they were anything like as hostile to the leadership as large elements of Iranians are. But the threat will have to be an internal power struggle in Iran as the factions there all see themselves suffering and weakening. I am not sure how long that takes.
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