Crap. Now US companies are going to have to start building and manufacturing quality products to be competitive. Where in the land of gen z are we going to find anyone competent now that the boomers are leaving?

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Wow. Lutnick family making bank off betting SCOTUS would rescind the tariffs.

https://www.rawstory.com/howard-lutnick-2675289149/

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They're not the only ones. The market for these was huge. We helped some clients file the protective claims just so they could sell them. Some of the execs we worked with saw it as free money but by selling the rights they could easily say "we didn't get any refunds" when their customers started wanting their tariff surcharges back.

In the end, SCOTUS saved us from Socialism, eventually Democrats will have power.

We have some of the dumbest alums on earth. These people that think tariffs are bad, and that now we can't impose them, etc.

You people are so dense. You have no clue WHY this was done.

[If you're posting simply to insult the board, then take a long break -- Staff]

Democrats in 2023: "The President can ignore orders from the Supreme Court!"

Democrats in 2026: "The President has to follow orders from the Supreme Court!" pic.twitter.com/diKsvIAUUh

— The Conservative Alternative (@OldeWorldOrder) February 20, 2026

I'm not a fan of his tantrums that he's throwing right now because he didn't get his way.

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In the end, SCOTUS saved us from Socialism, eventually Democrats will have power.

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This has to be sarcasm

HTownAg98 said:

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Trump was partially right, he did reduce the trade deficit. He managed to reduce it from $903.6 billion to $901.5 billion, or a 0.2% reduction. That's basically a rounding error. And people paid more for goods, and businesses have even more uncertainty. So much winning.

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There are other variables. Without Trump's tariffs and trade policies, the trade deficit would have been minimum $1.1 T. That's the real comparison.

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Trump was partially right, he did reduce the trade deficit. He managed to reduce it from $903.6 billion to $901.5 billion, or a 0.2% reduction. That's basically a rounding error. And people paid more for goods, and businesses have even more uncertainty. So much winning.

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There are other variables. Without Trump's tariffs and trade policies, the trade deficit would have been minimum $1.1 T. That's the real comparison.

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Once again A.C. Barrett disappoints. I bet Trump would like to have a do over on that nomination.

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She is a freaking disaster

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/20/tariff-refunds-supreme-court-00791244

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What happens to billions in tariff money already paid?

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Trade and customs experts agree any potential repayment process will be a logistical "nightmare" for both the federal government and the companies seeking compensation and that legal fights are likely.
That would create a "particularly unfair burden for smaller importers," said Scott Lincicome, vice president of general economics at the libertarian Cato Institute, noting they "lack the resources to litigate tariff refund claims."

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The Justice Department and parties in the tariff litigation have already asked the Court of International Trade to establish a steering committee to coordinate the more than 1,000 refund-related cases now pending, a common step in large, complex trade disputes.

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In court filings, the DOJ has acknowledged that if the tariffs are ruled unlawful, importers would likely be entitled to refunds, which CBP would process, primarily via its Automated Commercial Environment system, as the agency transitions to fully electronic refund payments.

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Industry groups are already pressing the Trump administration to swiftly issue refunds.

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The architect of Trump's tariff policy is a Mormon, actually.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/16/business/economy/jamieson-greer-trump-trade.html

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Once again A.C. Barrett disappoints. I bet Trump would like to have a do over on that nomination.

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Imagine being in favor of taxes.

2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

Walking to class in College Station pic.twitter.com/gHobbL7tT4 https://t.co/Amg4o46qII

— Barstool Texas A&M (@BarstoolTexasAM) February 20, 2026

What is this horse *****

President Trump will always put America’s national security and Americans first. And as I have said before, the President has multiple tools in his toolbox.

Let’s be clear: the Court did not rule against this Administration’s tariffs. It only said IEEPA can’t be used to raise… pic.twitter.com/y7b9X0Xfkl

— Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent (@SecScottBessent) February 20, 2026

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Should have been 9-0. They were obviously illegal from the very beginning.

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No, they were not.

They were not illegal until SCOTUS said they were. The legal argument for them likely would have carried the day in many other circumstances. But, for this court, for this issue, in 2026, Trump wasn't going to win.

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Nah. Something is not legal until a Court says it is illegal. The first person to break a law doesn't get a free bite at the apple.

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So we can prosecute all those people who had illegal abortions in violation of state law from 1973-2022?

What a clown. You hold your breath you fat f***

Cut the check, @realDonaldTrump. pic.twitter.com/NjVJ0tABme

— JB Pritzker (@JBPritzker) February 20, 2026

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🚨 HOLY SMOKES. President Trump announces the Supreme Court has actually STRENGTHENED the president's ability to enact tariffs, HUGE BACKFIRE

"SCOTUS made a president's ability to regulate trade and impose tariffs MORE POWERFUL and MORE CRYSTAL CLEAR, rather than less."… pic.twitter.com/Ne6fKczeRq

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) February 20, 2026

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This guy and Nick Sortor are complete bots.

"Red siren, omg Trump totally pwns <insert entity which Trump has grievances with> !!!11!!"

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Yeah it's amazing that educated people communicate like this, much less have large followings. Our media, be it local beat writers or national syndications, is one big clickbait fest

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And what's up with the annoying way he puts so many random words in all caps? I wish we could put a tariff on posting tweets from that guy.

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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It's not everybody on the right, just the Trump worshipers who embrace his populism. He's tapped into the working man's frustration and uses it to peel away voters that historically voted Dem.

Conservatives embrace free markets with limited government participation. Trump likes picking winners and losers and playing the role of boss, not too different from his Apprentice TV show.

I don't care for the populism, but I despise even more the outright marxism of the Dem party.

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Ragoo said:

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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being protectionist of domestic private industry is not communism- it's smart policy. When you offshore all of your capabilities at the quest of increased margin you slowly bleed yourself out and then become beholden to the very entity your offshored to.

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tysker said:

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Ragoo said:

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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being protectionist of domestic private industry is not communism- it's smart policy. When you offshore all of your capabilities at the quest of increased margin you slowly bleed yourself out and then become beholden to the very entity your offshored to.

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It can make sense in limited applications. It's also a great way to combat the ridiculous demands of unionized labor that want everything but won't offer anything in return like flexibility that allows improved productivity over time. Labor that's protected is not competitive. It gets fat and lazy.

Some unions got the message and changed their approach to partner with management to improve their overall competitiveness. Others resisted; those are the ones that typically get tossed into the dustbin of history by market forces over time.

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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It's not everybody on the right, just the Trump worshipers who embrace his populism. He's tapped into the working man's frustration and uses it to peel away voters that historically voted Dem.

Conservatives embrace free markets with limited government participation. Trump likes picking winners and losers and playing the role of boss, not too different from his Apprentice TV show.

I don't care for the populism, but I despise even more the outright marxism of the Dem party.

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When the Dems get in power they will use Trump's populism against the Reps. Trump has laid the foundation for future Dem economic policies that some of us accepted as failures and unsustainable decades ago.

tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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Ragoo said:

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

---

It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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It's not everybody on the right, just the Trump worshipers who embrace his populism. He's tapped into the working man's frustration and uses it to peel away voters that historically voted Dem.

Conservatives embrace free markets with limited government participation. Trump likes picking winners and losers and playing the role of boss, not too different from his Apprentice TV show.

I don't care for the populism, but I despise even more the outright marxism of the Dem party.

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When the Dems get in power they will use Trump's populism against the Reps. Trump has laid the foundation for future Dem economic policies that some of us accepted as failures and unsustainable decades ago.

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I don't disagree. It's all part and parcel of society's ongoing shift to the left.

Too many people want stuff that somebody else ultimately pays for, and politicians are all too ready to appease them in order to retain power.

Burpelson said:

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In the end, SCOTUS saved us from Socialism, eventually Democrats will have power.

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Like those Dems will stop because of a court ruling. If they sense blood in the water they will step on the gas and ignore the courts.

When they get in power the filibuster will be gone. They wanted it gone during Biden and did everything they could do to kill the filibuster, except for Manchin and Sinema (and they are now gone). We have geriatric republicans not wanting to do a speaking filibuster and a STAFFER of a senator who is cognitively impaired holding up the Save Act. Not an elected official - a bureaucrat.

MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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tysker said:

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

---

It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

---

It's not everybody on the right, just the Trump worshipers who embrace his populism. He's tapped into the working man's frustration and uses it to peel away voters that historically voted Dem.

Conservatives embrace free markets with limited government participation. Trump likes picking winners and losers and playing the role of boss, not too different from his Apprentice TV show.

I don't care for the populism, but I despise even more the outright marxism of the Dem party.

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When the Dems get in power they will use Trump's populism against the Reps. Trump has laid the foundation for future Dem economic policies that some of us accepted as failures and unsustainable decades ago.

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I don't disagree. It's all part and parcel of society's ongoing shift to the left.

Too many people want stuff that somebody else ultimately pays for, and politicians are all too ready to appease them in order to retain power.

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America has (had?) lots of 'other people's money' for politicians to use in their political interests.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Trump was partially right, he did reduce the trade deficit. He managed to reduce it from $903.6 billion to $901.5 billion, or a 0.2% reduction. That's basically a rounding error. And people paid more for goods, and businesses have even more uncertainty. So much winning.

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There are other variables. Without Trump's tariffs and trade policies, the trade deficit would have been minimum $1.1 T. That's the real comparison.

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People would have been paying less for goods than they are today, and businesses would have more certainty. With tariffs, we got a rounding error in the trade deficit, and an economy that grew at a meh 2.2% in 2025.
How does that make us better off?

Dems know how to pick SC justices. Republicans suck at it.

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shiftyandquick said:

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Wow. Lutnick family making bank off betting SCOTUS would rescind the tariffs.

https://www.rawstory.com/howard-lutnick-2675289149/

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They're not the only ones. The market for these was huge. We helped some clients file the protective claims just so they could sell them. Some of the execs we worked with saw it as free money but by selling the rights they could easily say "we didn't get any refunds" when their customers started wanting their tariff surcharges back.

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You guys are selling tariff refund claims? I think lottery tickets are a better value. Will these claims be printed on soft 2-ply paper so one day they can at least have some value?

Selling tariff refund claims and they were overdue dental office collections sounds scheisty as hell. Advising companies this is a good idea is even worse.

infinity_ag may be on to something when he lambasts the greediness and lack of ethics at large companies.

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annie88 said:

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2008. Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

Bernie also claimed that free trade without tariffs is a "right wing ideology."pic.twitter.com/zyBMp80CMV

— MAZE (@mazemoore) February 21, 2026

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bermie is a loon but his position in 2008 against unchecked free trade was correct. I saw it with my own eyes. The offshoring of segment of manufacturing to china took hours out of two shops I worked at. Those hours used to burden the G&A. The company entered a death spiral of 1) offshore 2) raise shop rate 3) raise product price due to increased shop rate 4) offshore more 5) close domestic manufacturing altogether because the shop rate had to get so high it could no longer compete

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It's amazing to me how anti-free trade and Communist-style economics are becoming so prevalent on the right.

Seriously the GOP used to be party pushing back against this stuff, even getting the US into wars overseas to stop the spread of these poisonous ideas, and now the right has steadfastly defended these same policies as good for our country. The backslide over the last decade is mind boggling

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being protectionist of domestic private industry is not communism- it's smart policy. When you offshore all of your capabilities at the quest of increased margin you slowly bleed yourself out and then become beholden to the very entity your offshored to.

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Then you and Bernie will be very happy together. But make no mistake: that old commie has never in his life embraced an economic idea a) with any actual merit, and b) that was good for America.

The last Republican to use tariffs as their economic policy before Trump was Herbert Hoover, and it helped cause the Great Depression.

BUT......this time it's going to work!

Don't worry about the GDP tanking and the lack of jobs and the inflation......that's just because of the secret police force rounding up people and putting them into camps!!

In fact, when you think about it, this is the greatest economy RIGHT NOW in the history of the United States!!

[now you know why Republicans are going to be absolutely crushed in the election and they deserve it]