Official SOTU thread!!!

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If those are the results from a CNN poll, the real numbers are probably 80/20.
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4 said:

If those are the results from a CNN poll, the real numbers are probably 80/20.

Saw on another podcast where Trump's approval ratings as measured by right track/wrong track questions on his policies. He was at 54% approval before the SOTU and 64% afterwards.

Assuming that tracks, the ten % difference would be squishy Republicans and Independents, IMO.
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infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.


Cry me a river. I don't give a **** about techies having a rough run.

Remember "learn to code" from Obama as he put thousands of blue collar Americans out on their asses with the bull**** green energy scam?

Well, learn to dig.
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Gaeilge said:

infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.


Cry me a river. I don't give a **** about techies having a rough run.

Remember "learn to code" from Obama as he put thousands of blue collar Americans out on their asses with the bull**** green energy scam?

Well, learn to dig.


You don't give a sheet about American techies?
Sad.

We should care about all our citizens.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

"*****ICE" is just the latest costume swap for "Free Palestine," "Defund the Police," "Hands Up, Don't Shoot," "Believe All Women," "I'm with Her," "No Blood for Oil," "I Can't Breathe," and "We Are the 99%."
The hashtag rotates, the outrage gets recycled, but it's always the same sanctimonious clowns, the same hysterical tantrums, the same useless street theater. New flavor of moral superiority every couple years, same cast of perpetual protesters, same zero actual results.

It's not activism. It's a lazy, NGO taxpayer and whatever foundation funded lifestyle subscription for spoiled narcissists who want the cheap dopamine hit of feeling holier than thou without ever having to build a damn thing, solve a real problem, take responsibility, lead anyone, or produce one measurable win in the real world. They gaslight and throw fits, to impress their sheep, and appease the corporate media who constantly runs cover for them and gives them a platform to cry on.

Trump put them all on notice front and center we're tired of it and hopefully it sticks with the weaker parts of the red team.




Dang....I didn't know they made terrorist glasses.

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aggiehawg said:

4 said:

If those are the results from a CNN poll, the real numbers are probably 80/20.

Saw on another podcast where Trump's approval ratings as measured by right track/wrong track questions on his policies. He was at 54% approval before the SOTU and 64% afterwards.

Assuming that tracks, the ten % difference would be squishy Republicans and Independents, IMO.


I hope this shows up in the midterms. He ABSOLUTELY needs to win. I think he did make a case yesterday.
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aggiehawg said:

This is quite a leap in logic. All Americans are white only?



LOL, logic.

These folks said MATH is racist.
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infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.

Then why does LinkedIn send me emails every day with tons of jobs? Tech jobs...

Maybe you're in the wrong part of tech.
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Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.

Then why does LinkedIn send me emails every day with tons of jobs? Tech jobs...

Maybe you're in the wrong part of tech.


Many, many of them are fake jobs. Or you are being phished for interview as an American citizen so they can reject you, put your name on an H1B form and hire Rajesh sitting in the wings needing a renewal.

There are many reasons. Look at the Job Network board, many are complaining about fake jobs and its various reasons.

I am amazed when people are so trusting of corporations. We need to learn to be more cynical.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Talking points must be taking awhile to download...either that or last night was such a disaster for the Democrats that they will just pretend that nothing of consequence happened and ignore it.

Several Epstein/Trump non-stories (all about the same thing) all dropped this morning.

Definitely planned in order to distract from last night...
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This era of American history is insane. I think we're living on a knife's edge. I still don't know if it's enough to turn the tables against the welfare state and their political class overlords in this country, which is the only thing that would bring about lasting change. But damn it's clear today that regardless of your prior ideological bent, the divide in this country is between two factions:

1) Those who love it despite its flaws and want to work to make it better

2) Those who hate it and want to burn it down and remake it into something altogether different, something they can control

Love him, hate him, or just tolerate him, Trump has drawn a line in the sand and forced people to get on one side or the other. I wish the Republicans in congress as well as state legislatures across the country would recognize what an opportunity this is and get in the fight. I'm afraid they're still too programmed to go along with the status quo just so they will have an open chair when the music stops. Hopefully the Republican presidential bench can keep this bully pulpit going and force the issue.
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plumbing problem in my condo building a week ago today which was a nightmare-

thank the lord there are still humans who are willing to work in that arena
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JasonD2005 said:

This era of American history is insane. I think we're living on a knife's edge. I still don't know if it's enough to turn the tables against the welfare state and their political class overlords in this country, which is the only thing that would bring about lasting change. But damn it's clear today that regardless of your prior ideological bent, the divide in this country is between two factions:

1) Those who love it despite its flaws and want to work to make it better

2) Those who hate it and want to burn it down and remake it into something altogether different, something they can control

Love him, hate him, or just tolerate him, Trump has drawn a line in the sand and forced people to get on one side or the other. I wish the Republicans in congress as well as state legislatures across the country would recognize what an opportunity this is and get in the fight. I'm afraid they're still too programmed to go along with the status quo just so they will have an open chair when the music stops. Hopefully the Republican presidential bench can keep this bully pulpit going and force the issue.


usually the ones who hate the country have never been anywhere else and have only their insane commie books to guide them

those who have traveled around the entire planet realize the blessing of the United States.
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infinity ag said:

Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.

Then why does LinkedIn send me emails every day with tons of jobs? Tech jobs...

Maybe you're in the wrong part of tech.


Many, many of them are fake jobs. Or you are being phished for interview as an American citizen so they can reject you, put your name on an H1B form and hire Rajesh sitting in the wings needing a renewal.

There are many reasons. Look at the Job Network board, many are complaining about fake jobs and its various reasons.

I am amazed when people are so trusting of corporations. We need to learn to be more cynical.

Well, I'd say about 50% of the jobs I see require the applicant to be a US citizen, so that H1B crap is out the door...

Get into the aviation or modeling and simulation field. PLENTY of jobs here
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
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Some people end up stuck in a career where all they can do is watch other people advance and move on whilst they sit bitterly in their cube complaining about H-1Bs, meanie CEOs and why they cannot order an orange Swingline.

Its just who they are. The world is always just empty, not half empty and never full. That is what is sad.

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There are also opportunities for the traditional "network engineer" type stuff in smaller towns where small business owners just refuse to deal with Habeeb in Bangladesh and want to talk to the same guy who physically wired the office for their problems. But I suspect there are a lot of suburban-dwellers who think they're too good for those places.
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Re-reading this thread with the timely updates has me smiling from ear to ear! This is GREAT.
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Rapier108 said:

aggiehawg said:

This is quite a leap in logic. All Americans are white only?

For cultural Marxists, supporting Americans waking up = white supremacy.

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Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

Logos Stick said:

infinity ag said:


I am not convinced about his statements on jobs. The job market is still awful and H1B scams are happening unabated. I don't buy that part of it. It is easier for an Indian in tech to get a job in America than for an American. I know things are happening behind the scenes so that is good. I would like the speed to increase and loopholes be plugged.


Fake news.

UE is at full employment. U6 is trending down. Labor force participation rate for 25-54 year olds is at the highest level since the year 2001, 25 years ago!


Wrong. The job market is terrible right now for new entrants and experienced Americans. This is especially true in tech. I have been in the industry for over 25 years and it hasn't ever been this bad, including 2008 and 2001.

I am amazed that people just blindly believe government numbers. Or maybe what we call "jobs" these days are HVAC, plumber and electrician jobs as recommended by the old geezers on this group, while foreigners have cornered all the intellectual jobs by undercutting or nepotism.

Then why does LinkedIn send me emails every day with tons of jobs? Tech jobs...

Maybe you're in the wrong part of tech.


Many, many of them are fake jobs. Or you are being phished for interview as an American citizen so they can reject you, put your name on an H1B form and hire Rajesh sitting in the wings needing a renewal.

There are many reasons. Look at the Job Network board, many are complaining about fake jobs and its various reasons.

I am amazed when people are so trusting of corporations. We need to learn to be more cynical.

Well, I'd say about 50% of the jobs I see require the applicant to be a US citizen, so that H1B crap is out the door...

Get into the aviation or modeling and simulation field. PLENTY of jobs here


My guess is all of these "tech people" that Infinity ag claims to know who apparently can't get jobs can't get them because they're just as bitter and entitled as he is. No way I'd hire someone with that attitude either.
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Better yet, there's a good likelihood that they don't know how to interact with live people.

Of all the professional techies I've known, just about 100% of them are weird. Scared to death to speak to someone on the phone or in person. Everything has to be IM or email. They have absolutely no social skills.

As soon as AI takes over their little software writing jobs, they are screwed.
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4 said:

Better yet, there's a good likelihood that they don't know how to interact with live people.

Of all the professional techies I've known, just about 100% of them are weird. Scared to death to speak to someone on the phone or in person. Everything has to be IM or email. They have absolutely no social skills.

As soon as AI takes over their little software writing jobs, they are screwed.

This reminds me of the old tale "be nice to the nerds, one day you are going to work for them."

LOL. No we don't, we keep them hidden in the back away from customers and they are only allowed supervised visitation.
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Quote:

Statement to FOX via NRCC spokesman Mike Marinella:

"Every single vulnerable House Democrat should get comfortable re-watching the moment they revealed they're nothing more than America-hating scums who stayed glued to their seats while President Trump called on protecting American citizens over criminal illegal immigrants. The ads write themselves."

Dumb move by Dems.
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I said earlier it was like the were simply paralyzed in that moment.

I think it will cost them. Just such an easy visual for people to get.
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I was yelling at the TV screen for him to ask them again.

Tell them, maybe you didn't hear me, I'm going to give you another chance. Let me repeat the question.

And at that point, he should have asked the cameraman to please focus on all of them.

I really wish he would have rubbed it in
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I've maintained the argument for a long time that know matter what Trump does all the Republicans have to do is interview a few white progressives and turn those interviews into campaign adds showing just how crazy the left side is.

This wasn't exactly an interview per se but it fits in the same mold. It was a total failure of an easy moment. All they had to do was stand and clap.

Also, in the news today, all the left can do is fact check Trump. Whether Trump told the entire truth, half truths, or outright lied about whatever it doesn't matter and hasn't mattered since 2015. That's an exercise in futility.

Go ahead and make a campaign ad around those lies and half truths. All R will do is respond with the visuals from last night.
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This is wild.

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I'm here for the economy

but staying for the dogwalking of all the Islamist terrorists in America



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flown-the-coop said:

I said earlier it was like the were simply paralyzed in that moment.

I think it will cost them. Just such an easy visual for people to get.

Paralyzed but also their brains were not engaged. Who are their constituents? Voters. Are illegal aliens voters in large numbers? No.

Pandering is one thing. Pandering to people who are not their voters? Dumb.
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just another example in a long list of liberalism being a mental illness.
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ibttldw


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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:



We had similar vacuous posters denigrating the speech last night.
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Good grief! I don't know how that woman walks and chews gum at the same time.
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aggiehawg said:

flown-the-coop said:

I said earlier it was like the were simply paralyzed in that moment.

I think it will cost them. Just such an easy visual for people to get.

Paralyzed but also their brains were not engaged. Who are their constituents? Voters. Are illegal aliens voters in large numbers? No.

Pandering is one thing. Pandering to people who are not their voters? Dumb.

Those two hate this country to begin with, but their raging TDS is real, and it drives them over the edge. People that have it truly do live in an alternate reality, and it causes them to act in an entirely self destructive manner, without even considering the consequences.
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I'll never understand the theatre of sitting the entire time, if the POTUS is of the opposing party.

It's stupid when either side does it.

If you disagree with that they're saying, of course, stay seated. But blanketly sitting throughout the entire speech, even when you're asked to support our country's gold Medal winners? Support a murder victim's family? Support a medal recipient and war hero????

Stand the heck up when it's good for our country. Sit when you disagree. But choose country over party. Simple enough.

Acting like a pouting child is the dumbest level of display possible.
 
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