HumpitPuryear said:

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Am I understanding this right? Stress is a new health risk never experienced before 2020?

The obvious answer is obvious. Debatable if China or NIH/CDC/pharma is more responsible.

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I think some people might have scrolled right past the chart.

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Owlagdad said:

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Living single.

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The mid-90s black sitcom? That'd be pretty weird.

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LOL.

If my wife cooked the way I liked to eat.. Id be dead.
How many single guys have take out, delivery, their pizza place and DQ on speed dial?
Plus a fridge full of beer.
I like to cook and did so later in my single days, but still didnt eat well. I can remember Mom bringing me fresh veggies out of the garden, and Id let them go to waste. it was easier to make a sandwich or heat up a cardboard pizza.
I can remember if I stayed with parents a couple of days, Id get the runs. Good food and low carbs flushing the system of that crud in pre mixed food.

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Urban Ag said:

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Lack of sex.

I'm dead serious. The physical, mental, emotional, chemical, benefits of sex are hugely important to stress relief, balance, and your overall health.

Lack of marriage and commitment and therefore regular sex lives in young(er) people is not healthy.

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Had work-from-home sex today. I'm a salaried employee so I was literally getting paid to have sex. I'm basically a p0rnstar. That or a hooker

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Maybe both. Either way.

The study was retrospective going back to 2011. The trendline is increasing from 2011. Not sure why the graph in the article focused so much on 2021-2022 because the study itself was focused on a full decade.

IMO it is due to chronic inflammation, caused by poor diet, obesity, and diabetes/prediabetes.

SALT-SUGAR-FAT

TexasAggie_97 said:

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Couldn't possibly be due to people being overweight and eating highly processed foods not exercising and just basically having a sedentary lifestyle now could it? Now do Diabetes or cancer and see if those too are on the rise.

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This is the entire answer.

It's not hard to understand

TexasAggie_97 said:

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Couldn't possibly be due to people being overweight and eating highly processed foods not exercising and just basically having a sedentary lifestyle now could it? Now do Diabetes or cancer and see if those too are on the rise.

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No kidding. Over FORTY PERCENT of American adults are obese, eat like crap, and are sedentary.

Investigation over. Don't need to be Poirot to get to the bottom of this mystery.

fun with statistics... the incredibly rare occurrence remains incredibly rare.

Those crazy energy drinks.

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Queso1 said:

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The clot shot. End of story. Ts n Ps for anyone stupid enough to take that.

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What if COVID itself was engineered to cause more heart problems even if you didn't take the shot?

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I never got the vaccine when the bad strain of covid came around. Around a year later I caught a major blood clot to the lungs. Covid definitely has a component that impacts blood chemistry in some people.

Bean in Chili!

I love the knee jerk reaction to blame Covid vaccines when the study analyzed a time when it basically was never available

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In a study published this week, a group of international researchers and cardiologists found that deaths from severe first heart attacks among adults 18 to 54 rose 57 percent between 2011 and 2022

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And here in this graph already posted the largest spike is from 2020 to 2021. The Covid vaccine wasn't in widespread use until mid 2021.

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Thunderstruck xx said:

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Queso1 said:

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The clot shot. End of story. Ts n Ps for anyone stupid enough to take that.

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What if COVID itself was engineered to cause more heart problems even if you didn't take the shot?

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Well, people who got the shot also got COVID.

So why add to the potential negative outcome by taking a shot with side effects?

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first virus that the body didn't develop antibodies to fight - despite most folks recovering. How anyone believed that lie I'll never know

Thanks for looking at that more closely as a lot of people definitely didn't. The spike shown on the graph is before the vaccines are even introduced.

Covid itself was a highly inflammatory disease. I do think it has something to do with the small spike after 2020 but the overall trend line has been up since 2011.

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Lack of sex.

I'm dead serious. The physical, mental, emotional, chemical, benefits of sex are hugely important to stress relief, balance, and your overall health.

Lack of marriage and commitment and therefore regular sex lives in young(er) people is not healthy.

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Had work-from-home sex today. I'm a salaried employee so I was literally getting paid to have sex. I'm basically a p0rnstar. That or a hooker

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Your right hand doesnt count

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Lack of sex.

I'm dead serious. The physical, mental, emotional, chemical, benefits of sex are hugely important to stress relief, balance, and your overall health.

Lack of marriage and commitment and therefore regular sex lives in young(er) people is not healthy.

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Had work-from-home sex today. I'm a salaried employee so I was literally getting paid to have sex. I'm basically a p0rnstar. That or a hooker

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And this is why they're making us all go back to the office.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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Thanks for looking at that more closely as a lot of people definitely didn't. The spike shown on the graph is before the vaccines are even introduced.

Covid itself was a highly inflammatory disease. I do think it has something to do with the small spike after 2020 but the overall trend line has been up since 2011.

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probably more genetics than anything else you always hear the super fit dudes dying of heart attacks.

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Rapier108 said:

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Sadly, some people are giddy over because it means they can spike the ball and yell "the vax, the vax!" like people dying is some kind of victory for their side.

And no, I never took the worthless shots and never would. I just don't see people dying as some kind of victory or validation.

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Weird take.

no one is giddy or seeking validation.

But we're allowed to discuss outcomes of events...especially one that was extremely controversial, and used to fire employees, shut down businesses, etc.

Learn from history or repeat it...

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There are certainly some that are giddy about it, but mostly it's the eagerness with which people that people blame the so called "clot shot" for any negative health outcome reported on. Zero critical analysis of whether or not the data supports their claims, just seeking reconfirmation of their decision. Often without the study actually definitively proving their claims.

This study does not state that heart attacks are increasing overall. It states that the prevalence of death for younger individuals has increased. The study noted a reduction in overall prevalence in heart attack hospitalization during the review period (2011-2022), but attributed the reduction in incidence rate to older individuals (individuals more likely to have been vaccinated). That the rise in prevalence of deaths was disproportionately from women rather than men. Men being the cohort more likely to demonstrate heart related issues from both the vaccine and COVID. And that the rise has been occurring since 2011 after a pre-2011 decline.

Over that period obesity has increased by ~20-30% and in relation to that all of its associated diseases (diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure), I'm 100% confident the prevalence of abuse of drugs and specifically prescription ADD medications (stimulants), and consumption of nicotine has increased substantially for those that partake to a degree that people in the 60's and 70's would have had a heart attack just hearing about the consumption amounts. 60% of those in the study were tobacco users of some kind. Between 2010 and today you've had the introduction of vapes, subsequently increasing concentration of vape oils, and the introduction/proliferation of nicotine pouches in higher and higher concentrations.

In short, probably not vaccines. At least not for the review period. Doesn't mean future studies won't show an association, but that does not appear to be what this study is indicating.

Probably fatties, sedentary lifestyles, and stimulant abuse.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.125.046517

https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/more-americans-under-55-are-dying-of-severe-heart-attacks-12d5b326?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqdV-nqNqzlU4QQ1da_nqfYwbm-MCgSC4u52kPzNrswgCf3caATL0Md2_Jf3AKk%3D&gaa_ts=69a251ac&gaa_sig=0qVn9CSeHTtTqp9qWGBmAMDJ0mdZwG13JqtsXglUv5nqkUI4RC5qJcr00SQNZpO5MIcrT27DFzZYFidAz1TDXQ%3D%3D

And the Covid vaccine.

I've had a heart attack and was not obese. I have two friends who were lean who had heart attacks and died at 49.

The rise is in younger females?

Could be a byproduct of TDS. How many of them happened during SOTU?

Bird Poo said:

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With the rise of Ozempic-type drugs, I would have expected this graph to level off or significantly reduce. I know a lot of big people who are now skinny.

I also know a lot of average-weight people who are now very skinny due to taking these drugs.

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Did these even exist in 2023? I thought these didn't really get out in the wild until 2024.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Lack of sex.

I'm dead serious. The physical, mental, emotional, chemical, benefits of sex are hugely important to stress relief, balance, and your overall health.

Lack of marriage and commitment and therefore regular sex lives in young(er) people is not healthy.

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Had work-from-home sex today. I'm a salaried employee so I was literally getting paid to have sex. I'm basically a p0rnstar. That or a hooker

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Your right hand doesnt count

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It does if he's right handed but used his left hand. That's called The Stranger for a reason. Take it a step further and first put your left hand to sleep and now you have Stranger in a Strange Land.

Now, that really counts.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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And the Covid vaccine.

I've had a heart attack and was not obese. I have two friends who were lean who had heart attacks at 49.

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The time period for the study was 2011 to 2021. Was the Covid vaccine so dangerous that it was actually able to go back in time and cause heart attacks?

well stated!

I honestly am thinking of taking a lower paying job just to have a healthier lifestyle

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LMCane said:

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1. Aggies versus Hurricanes Playoff game

2. Waiting to bomb Iran

3. Terminators taking over the planet

4. Artificial intelligence making everyone unemployed

5. Covid Vaccine

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You do realize the only one even remotely plausible was your #1, right.

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literally cannot watch some college football games due to the stress

I'll tie this with the rise of energy drinks, especially in the past 10 years. Double digit growth every year and only drink segment that is actually growing (besides prebiotic sodas). Know a lot of people who have health issues or have died due to them.

May not be the main reason but it is one of them.

HumpitPuryear said:

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Am I understanding this right? Stress is a new health risk never experienced before 2020?

The obvious answer is obvious. Debatable if China or NIH/CDC/pharma is more responsible.

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Its not actually.
What if its related to a mode sedentary lifestyle after the introduction of Instagram? Also, is there a longer graph?

Number one question doctors are asking when you go in for a heart related issue is did you get the shot. There is a reason they are asking.

6. Pissed off HRC

Anecdote, my wife at 34 had some weird heart symptoms at her annual with our PCP. Referred to a cardiovascular consultant in The Woodlands

One of the first things the cardio asks her, "did you get the COVID shot"? This wasn't some joke, he is seeing a link between the shot and heart health.

Glad we never got it.

FWIW she is deficient in magnesium as the root cause.

Morbo the Annihilator said:

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Fat people with awful diets, and a couple of jabs with boosters for the foolish.

Essentially comitting suicide on my dime.

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There's a ****load of fat people of all ages out there. It's getting worse and has to be a contributing factor.

Urban Ag said:

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Lack of sex.

I'm dead serious. The physical, mental, emotional, chemical, benefits of sex are hugely important to stress relief, balance, and your overall health.

Lack of marriage and commitment and therefore regular sex lives in young(er) people is not healthy.

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Sex is a part of marriage? I need to remind my wife.

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BusterAg said:

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Would love to see this data for people that did and did not receive a COVID vaccine that did and did not have COVID. This might have been a feature from the lab.

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The number of people that were not infected with COVID might literally be zero world-wide.

Some study of the number of spike proteins in people's blood when they died of a heart attack might be interesting, though, as well. The spike proteins can stay in your body for a long period of time after the vax or after infection, it seems. It's rare, but we are talking about a fraction of 1% above.