Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.


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King Charles doesn't need cash flow, he's not Hunter Biden. WTAF?
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Send it to the mods then ignore em. It's the most effective and appropriate means to address it.
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Further clarifying what our position should be (180 degrees the opposite of Jake Sullivan, as usual).
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Mediterranean Shipping Company is not...Israeli. This is pathetic.
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flown-the-coop said:

MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

Please calm down
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nortex97 said:


Further clarifying what our position should be (180 degrees the opposite of Jake Sullivan, as usual).

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and tying the deal to the missile program or regional allies will block any result.

Who are these "regional allies"?

Hamas? Hezbollah? Houthis?

Because pretty much all the other regional countries are either tired of their **** or pissed off because Iran fired missiles and drones and them...
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Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

Please calm down

Ummm...

Iran has been saying DEATH TO AMERICA for 47 years.

Just because you didn't listen to them doesn't mean they did intend for it to happen...
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Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

Please calm down

Ummm...

Iran has been saying DEATH TO AMERICA for 47 years.

Just because you didn't listen to them doesn't mean they did intend for it to happen...

I have addressed this I do not know how many times. It does not mean what you think it means. It does not mean Iran wants to nuke America. It certainly is not the "motto of Iran" as flown-the-coop claimed
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Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

Please calm down

Ummm...

Iran has been saying DEATH TO AMERICA for 47 years.

Just because you didn't listen to them doesn't mean they did intend for it to happen...

I have addressed this I do not know how many times. It does not mean what you think it means. It does not mean Iran wants to nuke America. It certainly is not the "motto of Iran" as flown-the-coop claimed

You may have addressed this many times. All the explanations only excuse the terrorist death cult.

No one believes the death cult mafia because of their continual dishonesty.
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Keyno said:

Ag with kids said:

Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

MarvZindler said:

Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

Please calm down

Ummm...

Iran has been saying DEATH TO AMERICA for 47 years.

Just because you didn't listen to them doesn't mean they did intend for it to happen...

I have addressed this I do not know how many times. It does not mean what you think it means. It does not mean Iran wants to nuke America. It certainly is not the "motto of Iran" as flown-the-coop claimed

I mean you can take the dead kohmenis super duper (detached) pinky promise when he clarified his statement to propagate this lie you now repeat.

And as you have "addressed" this you don't know how many times, o invite folks to read previous replies to you by me and others thoroughly debunking this myth that it means anything other than "Death to America".

You don't just get to say decades later at a political speech to a university that you really didn't mean death, you mean "leave us alone".

It's a lie and everyone who reads this needs to understand the lie.

Death to America means death to America. No translation needed unless you are a simp for the IRGC and ayatollahs who rape women and our babies in ovens.
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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.
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flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.
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bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?
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Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?
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flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

Just trying to clarify the claim that Hamas killed 45 Americans on 10/7. That's very provocative and outrageous.
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Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?


An American citizen can have dual citizenship. And Israel is an ally. I don't understand why you care if they have an Israeli citizenship. But if the dead were dual American/Irish citizens killed, is that better or worse, and why?
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Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

Just trying to clarify the claim that Hamas killed 45 Americans on 10/7. That's very provocative and outrageous.

How is it "provocative"? And it is outrageous but maybe not in the sentiment you are coming at this with.

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There is no single, officially confirmed public figure for exactly how many of the 46 U.S. citizens/nationals killed were born in the United States (vs. born in Israel or elsewhere and later acquiring U.S. citizenship).
The 46 includes many dual U.S.-Israeli citizens, a common status among victims due to strong ties between the communities. Reporting consistently notes a mix:

Many were U.S.-born (native-born Americans who moved to Israel as adults, children, or young adults, or were visiting). Examples from victim profiles include:

Hayim Katsman (born in the U.S., PhD from University of Washington).
Danielle Waldman (born in Palo Alto, California).
Cindy Flash (native of St. Paul, Minnesota; moved to Israel in 1979).
Deborah Matias (Missouri native).
Others like certain Nova festival attendees or visitors with clear U.S. birth ties.


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bobbranco said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?


An American citizen can have dual citizenship. And Israel is an ally. I don't understand why you care if they have an Israeli citizenship. But if the dead were dual American/Irish citizens killed, is that better or worse, and why?

That's fine. Instead of saying "45 Americans were killed". A more accurate statement would be "45 Israeli/American dual citizens living in Israel were killed"
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https://themedialine.org/top-stories/45-us-citizens-were-killed-on-oct-7-father-of-itay-chen-reminds-the-world/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/forgotten-americans-hamas-terrorist-massacre-october-7th


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On that mournful Saturday in 2023, 45 Americans were murdered, and 12 Americans were kidnapped.


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Do not forget the 45 Americans murdered by Hamas on October 7, 2023. Do not forget American hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin, who was murdered in the tunnels of Gaza six months ago. Do not forget we have the bodies of four deceased Americans Itay Chen, Omer Neutra, Gad Haggai and Judi Weinstein still being held in Hamas captivity in Gaza. And of urgent importance, do not forget we have one American who is believed to be alive Edan Alexander still being held in horrific conditions by Hamas in Gaza. We need every single one of the innocent hostages home now, including our Americans. America, I ask you again, where is your outrage?

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.
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flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

The distinction is clear to any fair minded reader.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective
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Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?


An American citizen can have dual citizenship. And Israel is an ally. I don't understand why you care if they have an Israeli citizenship. But if the dead were dual American/Irish citizens killed, is that better or worse, and why?

That's fine. Instead of saying "45 Americans were killed". A more accurate statement would be "45 Israeli/American dual citizens living in Israel were killed"


Except several were simply visiting. Can we at least avenge their deaths or did they simply get what they deserved by having dual citizenship?

The logic behind the distinctions here are extremely hard to follow.
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flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?


An American citizen can have dual citizenship. And Israel is an ally. I don't understand why you care if they have an Israeli citizenship. But if the dead were dual American/Irish citizens killed, is that better or worse, and why?

That's fine. Instead of saying "45 Americans were killed". A more accurate statement would be "45 Israeli/American dual citizens living in Israel were killed"


Except several were simply visiting. Can we at least avenge their deaths or did they simply get what they deserved by having dual citizenship?

The logic behind the distinctions here are extremely hard to follow.

Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?
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Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

bobbranco said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

flown-the-coop said:

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

Just trying to clarify the claim that Hamas killed 45 Americans on 10/7. That's very provocative and outrageous.

We just have to agree to disagree my thoughts those 45 Americans hold allegiance to Israel and that makes them Israeli. I know you think they would put America over anything but they wouldn't. I wish I didn't think like this but these people rightfully so are Israel first. It doesn't matter if it's Jonathan Pollard Mark Levin Zalman Shapiro or even Epstein I don't care what the passport says we know who they put first.

If my family was put in concentration camps and done the way they were I would be the same way. I admire it actually I would admire it more if my country wasn't the one being exploited for it.

Just look our top negotiator used to let Bibi use his bed. If someone called Xi uncle he would ever see anything with a classified mark on it. I guess I just don't understand how you can't see any bias in letting someone like Kushner be involved in this.





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Keyno said:

flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.



Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?


An American citizen can have dual citizenship. And Israel is an ally. I don't understand why you care if they have an Israeli citizenship. But if the dead were dual American/Irish citizens killed, is that better or worse, and why?

That's fine. Instead of saying "45 Americans were killed". A more accurate statement would be "45 Israeli/American dual citizens living in Israel were killed"


Except several were simply visiting. Can we at least avenge their deaths or did they simply get what they deserved by having dual citizenship?

The logic behind the distinctions here are extremely hard to follow.

Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

I would be okay with it, the Palestinian culture is a cancer.
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Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.
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We just have to agree to disagree my thoughts those 45 Americans hold allegiance to Israel and that makes them Israeli. I know you think they would put America over anything but they wouldn't. I wish I didn't think like this but these people rightfully so are Israel first. It doesn't matter if it's Jonathan Pollard Mark Levin Zalman Shapiro or even Epstein I don't care what the passport says we know who they put first.

If my family was put in concentration camps and done the way they were I would be the same way. I admire it actually I would admire it more if my country wasn't the one being exploited for it.

Just look our top negotiator used to let Bibi use his bed. If someone called Xi uncle he would ever see anything with a classified mark on it. I guess I just don't understand how you can't see any bias in letting someone like Kushner be involved in this.




Wow.

Let's also ignore Wirkoff being in the room, Trump and his cabinet reviewing any and all deal terms, and the fact that the terms will be public knowledge. But Bibi stayed he night long ago at the mansion of prominent and wealthy American, who happens to be Jewish.

Wow.
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flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:


Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.

Sweet. Lets expand the scope of the war to include other targets.
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