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aggies101 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.

So blinded by antisemitism that you can't even define what a war is anymore.

What Trump is doing is the opposite of war mongering. Get in, take care of business, get out. No years of cronies getting rich off of pointless wars.

He's making the world safer for everyone but especially for America.

But again, you're too busy reeeeing about Israel to even try to understand that.

Pretty pathetic.




If you believe in Israel's cause so much, then go convince your son to sign up and fight for it. Or go do it yourself if you can still enlist. Just because I'm against fighting Israel's war doesn't mean I'm antisemitic. I'm just ACTUALLY America first.

Btw, if Trump wants to make the world safer, there are a **** load of Epstein files that need explaining. It would be nice if we had a president that would "drain the swamp" right now. Go look back at what he actually ran on vs what he's doing now. It wasn't that ago he was calling her "crooked Hilary" now she's a "strong woman". He was also disappointed to see Bill Clinton questioned. Idk about you, but the guy just seems full of **** lately. We need to stop looking at these politicians as heroes and instead see them for what they are.


Because they're all dirty wealthy people just covering for each other and likely laughing at the masses on both sides. That's why you see every other country taking action over information in the files and nothing here. He's going to keep bombing distracting and making empty grand gestures and no action will be taken on the files.
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aggies101 said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Iran's government killed Americans and 32k of its own citizens and we doing regime change with no boots on the ground all you dolts can scream is Israel and Epstein.. Sad.


Yea man, when our leaders are implicated in a child pedo ring and they all scream it's a big nothing burger, most of us kind of want the DOJ to do a little digging. The government is real quick to audit any one of us and waste our tax dollars, but god forbid WE demand some ****ing accountability on their end.


Demanding accountability from your own political side is no longer a thing in this country. You'll just get shouted down and mocked.
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agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.
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91Challenger said:

Wow. What a difference.

I think the loss in 2020 has actually turned out to be a great thing. He learned about Cabinet positions. He learned about laws. He learned even more about dealing with the press and the left.

Now? He's crushing it! Yuge difference!

It is amazing. The first president to win 3 elections also! He got screwed over so bad that he's come back with a vengeance. It's been mostly glorious to see.
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aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.


Had to throw in the "boomer" red meat. Sign of a weak argument.

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aggies101 said:

BusterAg said:

Trump made the wold safer this weekend. Or do you disagree?


Disagree. This has the potential to lead to a much bigger fallout. This is Israel's fight. Not ours. We do not gain anything from this. We have 20 years of data to back this up. Again, I voted for the guy. I'm not some libtard that just hates everything that is republican. But this isn't the America first movement I was voting for. Charlie Kirk would agree, and I'm glad he doesn't have to see this. 3 American troops died from this already.




You are glad Charlie Kirk is dead? That's an odd take.

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jt2hunt said:

FA 45
FO 47

T-Shirt material right there!
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Yesterday said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.


That's not true. A lot of this matters even if he doesn't reduce the debt by 1 cent.


Metaphorically speaking they're talking about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

All of it matters, but at some point that bill comes due, and nobody seems to have a plan.
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aggies101 said:

BusterAg said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

You're making leaps here I'm not talking about. I don't wish he was still alive, but that's an irrelevant question.


No. Its not.

Im and American. Im happy that the Ayatolla is dead. That has nothing to do with Israel. Trump did what this American wanted Trump to do, and Israel is not part of that equation.

But you want me to believe that Trump, who has done very well harnessing the populist American vote, is more concerned about what Israel wants than me? What proof do you have of, specifically, Trumps motivations that he would act on Israel's best interests at the expense of mine?


Easy. Go look how much AIPAC donated to his campaign . You'll get your answer real quick as to why Trump went ahead with this. He's not a Zionist, or even a Christian. He just made some campaign promises to his biggest donors that he has to come through on.

He said himself the money comes with strings attached. He said himself all this lady wants to talk about is Israel. Doesn't take much to put things together. Great.. the leader is gone and Trump hopefully could do Trump things and walk away smelling like a rose. But to say it wasn't for Israel is being dishonest.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.


Will that same congress impeach Trump for starting a war? Even if it's just political theater will congress be upset the president took power instead of a vote? You would think this morning calls for impeachment and a quick vote but we both know it won't be because Israel is the one issue both parties agree on.
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Again You're making a leap. I never mentioned Trump is being influenced. Our government is made up of many politicians not one. You're not willing to have a serious conversation because you keep going back to some thought I've never mentioned. Have a wonderful day
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Yukon Cornelius said:

It's not antisemitic. There's an undue amount of influence by Israel in our politics. No other country would be allowed the same influence. There's a major religious element in our country that turns a blind eye to it, which is largely why it happens. To say they don't have more influence then they should is being willfully ignorant. You can even agree on the policy, like bombing Iran and still recognize the level of influence Israel has. Those don't have to be exclusive necessarily. You can look at donor records and see how high up AIPAC is on many lists. I don't even fault Israel really, this is a by product of modern interpretation of scripture held by a major sect of American Christians.

The notion that we are "doing Israel's bidding" and not a sovereign country is 100% antiseptic and a centuries old trope.
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Yesterday said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.


That's not true. A lot of this matters even if he doesn't reduce the debt by 1 cent.


Exactly. I also believe he is finding new ways to grow America's federal revenues without increasing taxes on the citizens.
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No it's not and I didn't say we are doing Israel's bidding. We have a plethora of foreign donor money going into our politics. George Soros is another great example. The notion that the US is a fully sovereign nation is laughable. The response of "tHaTs RaCiSt" shows how uniformed you are.
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aggies101 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.

So blinded by antisemitism that you can't even define what a war is anymore.

What Trump is doing is the opposite of war mongering. Get in, take care of business, get out. No years of cronies getting rich off of pointless wars.

He's making the world safer for everyone but especially for America.

But again, you're too busy reeeeing about Israel to even try to understand that.

Pretty pathetic.




If you believe in Israel's cause so much, then go convince your son to sign up and fight for it. Or go do it yourself if you can still enlist. Just because I'm against fighting Israel's war doesn't mean I'm antisemitic. I'm just ACTUALLY America first.

Btw, if Trump wants to make the world safer, there are a **** load of Epstein files that need explaining. It would be nice if we had a president that would "drain the swamp" right now. Go look back at what he actually ran on vs what he's doing now. It wasn't that ago he was calling her "crooked Hilary" now she's a "strong woman". He was also disappointed to see Bill Clinton questioned. Idk about you, but the guy just seems full of **** lately. We need to stop looking at these politicians as heroes and instead see them for what they are.

You mean the guy deposing dictatorial regimes all over the world? Take your own advice and turn off Alex Jones.
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BusterAg said:

aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.


There is no Israel in "Death to America"

The belief that Jews control the US is generally considered to be antisemitic, especially when the issue being discussed is so clearly in the US best interest.

This is the quickest summation of the entire argument that shouldn't be happening in the first place.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.


Had to throw in the "boomer" red meat. Sign of a weak argument.


He sounds too stupid to know what a "boomer" actually is, too ignorant to know what he's talking about, and too much TDS to have a rational thought.
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There is only one entity that can be held responsible for the national debt and it isn't any president. Our esteemed congress is, and has always been, responsible for the government's debt.

That is what you get when you establish decision by committee, especially when the committee is made up of over-expoed media primadonas and egotists with limited common sense.
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FriscoKid said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

It doesn't matter who the president is. The debt is doubling every 8 years. This is the fault of the 4th branch swamp and not Trump. Not much he can do about it unless he takes on Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid.
Then do that.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

No it's not and I didn't say we are doing Israel's bidding. We have a plethora of foreign donor money going into our politics. George Soros is another great example. The notion that the US is a fully sovereign nation is laughable. The response of "tHaTs RaCiSt" shows how uniformed you are.

You didn't say it but you're white knighting for the guy who did. Don't insult our intelligence.
And the criticism of defending/assisting Israel as the only democracy and bastion of freedom in that entire part of the world is absolutely asinine. There are zero defensible positions that don't eventually lead to the "Zionist control" tripe if you follow the argument all the way to the end. You calling anyone uninformed on that front is rich. You clearly have zero appreciation of history and zero nuance with geopolitics.
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The anti Israel guys are such nonsensical mouth breathers. Convinced of the most basic propaganda.
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I wasn't, I was just calling out the argument of "that's racists". Wasn't defending anything anyone else said. Which is ultimately what's so frustrating about this topic. It's nearly impossible to have a good faith discussion about what's important to me, US sovereignty, when evidence is largely ignored and people lash out. And it's generally from one group of Christians with a modern theological doctrine.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.

If a president is allowed to take credit for budget successes, we are allowed to call him out on budget failures.
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BusterAg said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

It's not antisemitic. There's an undue amount of influence by Israel in our politics. No other country would be allowed the same influence. There's a major religious element in our country that turns a blind eye to it, which is largely why it happens. To say they don't have more influence then they should is being willfully ignorant. You can even agree on the policy, like bombing Iran and still recognize the level of influence Israel has. Those don't have to be exclusive necessarily. You can look at donor records and see how high up AIPAC is on many lists. I don't even fault Israel really, this is a by product of modern interpretation of scripture held by a major sect of American Christians.


Israel has zero to do with Trump bombing the men who tried to assassinate him straight to hell.

To insinuate otherwise is, in fact, antisemitic.

Do you wish that the Ayatolla was still alive?




The people that tried to assassinate him? I don't know what you're talking about because I haven't seen a single Democrat go to jail.
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Mr.Milkshake said:

The anti Israel guys are such nonsensical mouth breathers. Convinced of the most basic propaganda.


I think there's anti Israel people and then I think there are people like me that do feel like Jews have an outsized influence on what has happened in this country. In particular in the culture. There's no doubt they own media and entertainment and unfortunately, since the 1970s that has been the biggest driver for the cultural failure.
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aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.

Good lord this crap again. Why do so many young people buy this very old garbage. Its a 1930- 1939 mentality stuck in a loop. The world has been here before with disastrous consequences.

Whats scary is how this simple hate crap blinds so many to the real issues in the world. Seriously I have never understood the rabid Jew hate. Its like Jews are the universal scapegoat for commie losers. News flash, some Jews are good some are bad just like with any group.

And as far as Israel goes- it was recreated as a land of refuge after 6 million Jews were slaughtered by mindless Nazi drones. So yeah they have a different take on the world and that takes has also benefited the US. Do you think this war would go this well if Israel was part of Syria or Lebanon ?

Get over your podcast induced hate and really think.
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aggies101 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.

So blinded by antisemitism that you can't even define what a war is anymore.

What Trump is doing is the opposite of war mongering. Get in, take care of business, get out. No years of cronies getting rich off of pointless wars.

He's making the world safer for everyone but especially for America.

But again, you're too busy reeeeing about Israel to even try to understand that.

Pretty pathetic.




If you believe in Israel's cause so much, then go convince your son to sign up and fight for it. Or go do it yourself if you can still enlist. Just because I'm against fighting Israel's war doesn't mean I'm antisemitic. I'm just ACTUALLY America first.

Btw, if Trump wants to make the world safer, there are a **** load of Epstein files that need explaining. It would be nice if we had a president that would "drain the swamp" right now. Go look back at what he actually ran on vs what he's doing now. It wasn't that ago he was calling her "crooked Hilary" now she's a "strong woman". He was also disappointed to see Bill Clinton questioned. Idk about you, but the guy just seems full of **** lately. We need to stop looking at these politicians as heroes and instead see them for what they are.

In your world view, what is "Israel's cause"? To what end are we, the United States, being manipulated into doing "Israel's bidding"? World domination? Muslim genocide? A global population of 15 million Jews trying to avoid being wiped off the face of the Earth by 2 billion people who want them all dead?
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I've tried explaining it here before. The young generations are economically locked out of society. They have little hope for buying homes and raising families. We can look at history and see when that happens those generations become radical and violent. We've had one young guy try and kill Trump, another killed Charlie, another was just killed a week ago by SS. Scapegoats must be found. Why are the young people economically locked out? Who is responsible? For some they have concluded foreign wars in the ME inflating the money supply. So they ask who has benefited from wars in the ME if it clearly wasn't the US? And Israel gets th blame. And when you pull up AIPAC donor dollars it reaffirms their thesis.

I don't agree with their conclusions for the record before some of yall spazz out on me. I'm just trying to explain the thought processes here.
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oldord said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

The anti Israel guys are such nonsensical mouth breathers. Convinced of the most basic propaganda.


I think there's anti Israel people and then I think there are people like me that do feel like Jews leftest trash have an outsized influence on what has happened in this country. In particular in the culture. There's no doubt they own media and entertainment and unfortunately, since the 1970s that has been the biggest driver for the cultural failure.

Edited for accuracy.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.


Will that same congress impeach Trump for starting a war? Even if it's just political theater will congress be upset the president took power instead of a vote? You would think this morning calls for impeachment and a quick vote but we both know it won't be because Israel is the one issue both parties agree on.

Bless you heart ignorance is bliss. Trump has done nothing you liberals can impeach him for.... now ho make a sammich
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Jeeper79 said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.


If a president is allowed to take credit for budget successes, we are allowed to call him out on budget failures.

So, you desire to focus on human frailties rather than discuss actual organizational responsibility. A very emotional and unproductive method to correct a problem. Two wrongs never make anything right.
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aggies101 said:

BusterAg said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

You're making leaps here I'm not talking about. I don't wish he was still alive, but that's an irrelevant question.


No. Its not.

Im and American. Im happy that the Ayatolla is dead. That has nothing to do with Israel. Trump did what this American wanted Trump to do, and Israel is not part of that equation.

But you want me to believe that Trump, who has done very well harnessing the populist American vote, is more concerned about what Israel wants than me? What proof do you have of, specifically, Trumps motivations that he would act on Israel's best interests at the expense of mine?


Easy. Go look how much AIPAC donated to his campaign . You'll get your answer real quick as to why Trump went ahead with this. He's not a Zionist, or even a Christian. He just made some campaign promises to his biggest donors that he has to come through on.


I contributed to his campaign, and I want the a hole that is seeking nukes and death to America taken out.

Good Trump.

I didn't know that Tucker Carlson posted here. Or maybe you are Tuckers mom? Nice to have you here, mother Tucker.
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Jeeper79 said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

agsalaska said:

None of this matters at all unless he addresses the national debt.

Its just some short term feel good.

Newsflash: Congress holds the constitutional "power of the purse" controlling and voting on the federal budget, with the House and Senate passing 12 annual appropriations bills. While the President submits a budget request, Congress sets final spending levels. The process includes adopting a budget resolution, with final bills signed into law. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to determine how much money the federal government spends. The President submits a budget request, but Congress does the markup and hangs all their personal pork on it and sets the final product. So if you're gonna blame somebody blame the right somebody.


If a president is allowed to take credit for budget successes, we are allowed to call him out on budget failures.

Call him whatever you want it doesn't change the fact of of what I said. Pass clean12 appropriations bills to fund the government, the way the system is designed. Congress directly controls "discretionary" spending (approx.1/3 of the budget) through the annual process. "Mandatory" spending (e.g., Social Security) is set by permanent law. Cut out the pork to start it off right.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

It's not antisemitic. There's an undue amount of influence by Israel in our politics. No other country would be allowed the same influence. There's a major religious element in our country that turns a blind eye to it, which is largely why it happens. To say they don't have more influence then they should is being willfully ignorant. You can even agree on the policy, like bombing Iran and still recognize the level of influence Israel has. Those don't have to be exclusive necessarily. You can look at donor records and see how high up AIPAC is on many lists. I don't even fault Israel really, this is a by product of modern interpretation of scripture held by a major sect of American Christians.

Calm down Nick.
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aggies101 said:

He's just doing Israel's bidding lol. Only boomers love what we're currently getting. Continued Joe Biden levels of spending, "no new wars", cracking down on freedom of speech, dumb tariffs.

I voted for Trump the last go around, and back in 2020. He's better than Kamala Harris but the bar wasn't set very high to begin with. So far the only thing I've actually loved is closing the border.

The fact tha Israel plays such a part in our decision making and a chunk of the population doesn't see to care is wild. They buy every politician on both sides. Trump could have been different and really gone down as the best ever, now I'll remember him as just another **** politician.


It could be I am missing one of the best sarcasm posts ever…..or maybe I am not.
 
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