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The saltwater discharge is a red herring. The Harbor Island discharge will be out in the Gulf. The inner harbor discharge will be in 50' of water in the ship channel.

In reality, I bet much of the brine will not even be released. Technology and the need for rare earth minerals are aligned as such that the magnesium and potassium in the brine will be extracted and harvested.

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Maybe...but the voters of corpus arent convinced...and you've got a lot of fisherman that are still sore over the 2021 freeze.

I haven't heard any controversy coming out of Tampa Florida since they had their facility fully operational in 2007. Fishing and sport fishing interests in Tampa are every bit as big, probably much bigger than the ones in CC.

Tampa folks were wise enough to fuel it with Nuclear power. The need was every bit as real for them, and it's working. They're even expanding it. The new thinking on Nuclear power is the hybrid design like we use on Navy ships. Much easier and cheaper to deploy in applications like this.

What's to stop the state from taking action to solve the issue if local CC gov't can't?

Born and raised in Corpus

Corpus has been run like crap since before I was born


Corpus on to San Antonio on South have had a decade or so of bleak rainfall, everything is dry and withered


Weather patterns don't help incompetent managers

I hope we get some favorable weather patterns, need rain from the coast to Del Rio


People have been hauling water from the sewer treatment center for lawns for a year or more

Yes, and she couldn't even make time to be with the President when he was here last week. We are in Rockport and CC has been taking 60% of our allotted water for industry. We are burned up here with no rain to speak of since May 2025. It is definitely extremely worrisome. We still have people with no water wells watering their yards with no ramifications. No cure for dumb.

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Yes, and she couldn't even make time to be with the President when he was here last week. We are in Rockport and CC has been taking 60% of our allotted water for industry. We are burned up here with no rain to speak of since May 2025. It is definitely extremely worrisome. We still have people with no water wells watering their yards with no ramifications. No cure for dumb.

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Aransas County voters freaked out at the idea of a water district. They don't want government to tell them what to do.

I was under the impression that she wasn't invited.

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The saltwater discharge is a red herring. The Harbor Island discharge will be out in the Gulf. The inner harbor discharge will be in 50' of water in the ship channel.

In reality, I bet much of the brine will not even be released. Technology and the need for rare earth minerals are aligned as such that the magnesium and potassium in the brine will be extracted and harvested.

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I hope thats accurate. Even I was a little apprehensive about discharging brine into the already hyper saline Laguna Madre -CC Bay estuary. Let 'er rip into the gulf.

Those lakes will fill again, and the day they do will be epic.

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My question on this is why industry hasn't gotten the federal government involved. 50% of the oil exported from the USA to other countries comes out of Corpus. That's kind of a big deal.

Maybe that can be diverted elsewhere easily when industry takes a 25% cut of their water here in a few months and then more than that when this isn't solved? I don't know.

I know Trump made a comment about helping Corpus when he was here last week but who knows what that means, if anything. Regardless, any solution is going to take years to implement.

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You think Trump is going to help Corpus at the expense of Austin, San Antonio, Exxon, and the fracking giants of the permian?

There is no diversion that can happen. Texas made its choice and that choice was for industry and profit. Corpus also made its choice. Can you honestly look at Corpus and say they do anything for the residents? It is a profit driven, O&G based City in which they have abandoned every other interest EXCEPT the petrochemical lobby. From the history of Hillcrest through today, what about Corpus Christi says they will ever divert from industrial interests to things like drinking water?

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I've only lived in the area full-time for 2.5 years. I have little history with Corpus and how they operate. All I know is what's happening right now sucks and is why we are leaving.

My comment on diversion was the 50% of oil that currently leaves the Port of Corpus Christi. Who picks that up and how and when if industry here implodes due to no water?

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It doesn't and the ME is gonna be down for a bit…

The next six months are going to be uber spicy…which electorally will make things worse for POTUS.

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Well, this is a bigger f'ing disaster than I thought. This will definitely be national news.

Also, from the Texas Tribune article this jumped out at me because it's 180 different from what Corpus City Council proclaimed months ago which was that industry would have to take a 25% cut in water supply. This article says industry is exempt from that.

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The region's largest industrial users, which collectively consume the majority of the region's water, remain exempt from emergency curtailment.

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Industrial users have paid a surcharge in the past to be exempt from lower levels of water use restrictions, but my understanding is that they are not exempt from restrictions in "emergencyl situations. The surcharges paid were never enough to pay for additional sources to be developed and Corpus has done a poor job of distributing costs for new development to those who are causing the new higher demands.

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Well, then someone is lying or wrong because the city has said they are not exempt while the Texas Tribune says twice in their article that they are.

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They are currently exempt. Once a water emergency is declared they will no longer be exempt.
No one is lying, they are talking about different things and stages. Misunderstandings like this are part of the problem. People assume someone is lying or hiding something.

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The saltwater discharge is a red herring. The Harbor Island discharge will be out in the Gulf. The inner harbor discharge will be in 50' of water in the ship channel.

In reality, I bet much of the brine will not even be released. Technology and the need for rare earth minerals are aligned as such that the magnesium and potassium in the brine will be extracted and harvested.

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I hope thats accurate. Even I was a little apprehensive about discharging brine into the already hyper saline Laguna Madre -CC Bay estuary. Let 'er rip into the gulf.

Those lakes will fill again, and the day they do will be epic.

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The brine going into the creek leading to Baffin Bay would have been from brackish groundwater water desal, and likely would have had a lower salinity than the creek it was discharging to.

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Yes, and she couldn't even make time to be with the President when he was here last week. We are in Rockport and CC has been taking 60% of our allotted water for industry. We are burned up here with no rain to speak of since May 2025. It is definitely extremely worrisome. We still have people with no water wells watering their yards with no ramifications. No cure for dumb.

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I haven't lived in Corpus since HS and have no knowledge of how well she has managed the city but I will say she wasn't the type of girl you took very seriously in school. She was a smoke show though, easily a 9 -9.5.

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Yes, and she couldn't even make time to be with the President when he was here last week. We are in Rockport and CC has been taking 60% of our allotted water for industry. We are burned up here with no rain to speak of since May 2025. It is definitely extremely worrisome. We still have people with no water wells watering their yards with no ramifications. No cure for dumb.

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I shake my head at some of these new builds putting grass and sprinkler systems in. Watched a spec home just 2 weeks ago rip up the existing yard, install sprinklers, and then re-sod. I was walking by and really wanted to ask WTF they were doing because we aren't even allowed to run sprinklers for the last 16 months.

Freaking hardscape it and be done with it. I'm actually ripping our dead grass out ASAP and backfilling with rock and hardscape. Having sprinklers is pointless for the foreseeable future.

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My question on this is why industry hasn't gotten the federal government involved. 50% of the oil exported from the USA to other countries comes out of Corpus. That's kind of a big deal.

Maybe that can be diverted elsewhere easily when industry takes a 25% cut of their water here in a few months and then more than that when this isn't solved? I don't know.

I know Trump made a comment about helping Corpus when he was here last week but who knows what that means, if anything. Regardless, any solution is going to take years to implement.

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You think Trump is going to help Corpus at the expense of Austin, San Antonio, Exxon, and the fracking giants of the permian?

There is no diversion that can happen. Texas made its choice and that choice was for industry and profit. Corpus also made its choice. Can you honestly look at Corpus and say they do anything for the residents? It is a profit driven, O&G based City in which they have abandoned every other interest EXCEPT the petrochemical lobby. From the history of Hillcrest through today, what about Corpus Christi says they will ever divert from industrial interests to things like drinking water?

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I've only lived in the area full-time for 2.5 years. I have little history with Corpus and how they operate. All I know is what's happening right now sucks and is why we are leaving.

My comment on diversion was the 50% of oil that currently leaves the Port of Corpus Christi. Who picks that up and how and when if industry here implodes due to no water?

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It doesn't and the ME is gonna be down for a bit…

The next six months are going to be uber spicy…which electorally will make things worse for POTUS.

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Well, this is a bigger f'ing disaster than I thought. This will definitely be national news.

Also, from the Texas Tribune article this jumped out at me because it's 180 different from what Corpus City Council proclaimed months ago which was that industry would have to take a 25% cut in water supply. This article says industry is exempt from that.

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The region's largest industrial users, which collectively consume the majority of the region's water, remain exempt from emergency curtailment.

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Industrial users have paid a surcharge in the past to be exempt from lower levels of water use restrictions, but my understanding is that they are not exempt from restrictions in "emergencyl situations. The surcharges paid were never enough to pay for additional sources to be developed and Corpus has done a poor job of distributing costs for new development to those who are causing the new higher demands.

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Well, then someone is lying or wrong because the city has said they are not exempt while the Texas Tribune says twice in their article that they are.

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They are currently exempt. Once a water emergency is declared they will no longer be exempt.
No one is lying, they are talking about different things and stages. Misunderstandings like this are part of the problem. People assume someone is lying or hiding something.

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Then I blame the Texas Tribune for not fully reporting reality.

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My question on this is why industry hasn't gotten the federal government involved. 50% of the oil exported from the USA to other countries comes out of Corpus. That's kind of a big deal.

Maybe that can be diverted elsewhere easily when industry takes a 25% cut of their water here in a few months and then more than that when this isn't solved? I don't know.

I know Trump made a comment about helping Corpus when he was here last week but who knows what that means, if anything. Regardless, any solution is going to take years to implement.

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You think Trump is going to help Corpus at the expense of Austin, San Antonio, Exxon, and the fracking giants of the permian?

There is no diversion that can happen. Texas made its choice and that choice was for industry and profit. Corpus also made its choice. Can you honestly look at Corpus and say they do anything for the residents? It is a profit driven, O&G based City in which they have abandoned every other interest EXCEPT the petrochemical lobby. From the history of Hillcrest through today, what about Corpus Christi says they will ever divert from industrial interests to things like drinking water?

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I've only lived in the area full-time for 2.5 years. I have little history with Corpus and how they operate. All I know is what's happening right now sucks and is why we are leaving.

My comment on diversion was the 50% of oil that currently leaves the Port of Corpus Christi. Who picks that up and how and when if industry here implodes due to no water?

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It doesn't and the ME is gonna be down for a bit…

The next six months are going to be uber spicy…which electorally will make things worse for POTUS.

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Well, this is a bigger f'ing disaster than I thought. This will definitely be national news.

Also, from the Texas Tribune article this jumped out at me because it's 180 different from what Corpus City Council proclaimed months ago which was that industry would have to take a 25% cut in water supply. This article says industry is exempt from that.

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The region's largest industrial users, which collectively consume the majority of the region's water, remain exempt from emergency curtailment.

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Industrial users have paid a surcharge in the past to be exempt from lower levels of water use restrictions, but my understanding is that they are not exempt from restrictions in "emergencyl situations. The surcharges paid were never enough to pay for additional sources to be developed and Corpus has done a poor job of distributing costs for new development to those who are causing the new higher demands.

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Well, then someone is lying or wrong because the city has said they are not exempt while the Texas Tribune says twice in their article that they are.

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They are currently exempt. Once a water emergency is declared they will no longer be exempt.
No one is lying, they are talking about different things and stages. Misunderstandings like this are part of the problem. People assume someone is lying or hiding something.

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Then I blame the Texas Tribune for not fully reporting reality.

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Telling half the story is kind of their standard MO. If they can find a way to work blaming Abbott or Patrick for whatever it is along the way, they will do that too.

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Yeah, and they interviewed a full blown communist in that article as well. She lives right by the bay. Perfect opportunity for a short helicopter ride over the bay. Just taunting us with it.

Are they still buying water from Lake Texana in Jackson County?

I'm another born and raised Corpitos native, grew up in the Annaville area.

Water has always been a problem, and the city is notorious for screwing things up, and it has had quite a few water scares, but never this bad. Have family still there as i left in 04, and watering restrictions are so bad, you cant even wash your car.

I remember in the 90's when it was a huge issue when they built a water pipeline from Mathis to San Antonio.

If the Nueces stops flowing, it's going to be a huge problem for the city.

There are so many damn bays in yhe area, i dont understand why the butthurt fisherman keep fighting desal.

If elon was smart he would use the Lithium plant in Robstown to force their hand.


Corpus has and will always be the hidden gem that is ran by idiots.

Landry's t head debacle and bass pro shop denials are the most recent to take the cake.

Damn. Didn't yall just move down there? Where to next?

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Damn. Didn't yall just move down there? Where to next?

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Full-time 2.5 years ago although we've been coming here a lot since 2020.

Well, that's the funny part....looking at moving from the frying pan into the fire - New Mexico. So, I probably can't whine too much because of that.

I'm not a water person; I'm a hiker. I like elevation and we love the topography and architecture of NM. My wife grew up in Corpus which is why we are here. Over time she has moved into my camp and now this water issue has put her over the edge.

Santa Fe area has its own water issue but nothing like Corpus. So, trading hurricane risk and no water for fire risk and some water. I at least get my preferred environment...politics notwithstanding. And it's significantly cheaper for us to live there vs here.

We have a lot to do to make that happen though. Could all fall apart and we may change our minds and pick somewhere else between now and whenever. Who knows but we are pretty dialed in on NM right now.

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Yes, and she couldn't even make time to be with the President when he was here last week. We are in Rockport and CC has been taking 60% of our allotted water for industry. We are burned up here with no rain to speak of since May 2025. It is definitely extremely worrisome. We still have people with no water wells watering their yards with no ramifications. No cure for dumb.

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I shake my head at some of these new builds putting grass and sprinkler systems in. Watched a spec home just 2 weeks ago rip up the existing yard, install sprinklers, and then re-sod. I was walking by and really wanted to ask WTF they were doing because we aren't even allowed to run sprinklers for the last 16 months.

Freaking hardscape it and be done with it. I'm actually ripping our dead grass out ASAP and backfilling with rock and hardscape. Having sprinklers is pointless for the foreseeable future.

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Were they on the municipal water supply, a private water system, or individual water well?

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The de-sal plant was cancelled by the sport fishing lobby.

Too much industry drawing too much water.

But most importantly, not enough rainfall on the Nueces River watershed (Bracketville, Carrizo Springs, Tilden).

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I do understand the concerns. They're going to dump the brine in the Bay, not in the Gulf, and there's concern that it will cause the water to get TOO salty in the Bay and kill off a lot of fish...

We've been in a drought down here for quite awhile...water restrictions for years. I live on the island so I just have a rock yard, but I do have a pool...

I'm pretty sure the city council voted to continue on with the desal plant with their last vote...

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I live outside of Corpus but tied to their water supply. It's about to get awful. We've been in Stage 3 water restrictions since December 2024. Moving to Stage 4 soon...sounds imminent. Corpus had already informed local industry that they would take a 25% haircut on water supply beginning in December 2026 and Corpus just said this last week their projections are coming in 6 months sooner than anticipated.

A second desal plant has been preliminarily approved but final construction has yet to be approved and won't until April. Years away from that solution. Interim solution is a separate brackish water desal thing and/or groundwater plan. These sound like they are still 12-24 months away.

People here pretty much praying for a hurricane at this point because it's our only near-term salvation.

Wife and I have decided to move out of this mess. We expect to have issues selling because of this, obviously.

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Didn't y'all just move down full time a year or so ago?

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Are they still buying water from Lake Texana in Jackson County?

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They are...but I am fairly certain the city has water rights on the Colorado River too...

yes, but there isn't much more to be drawn down from Texana either.

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The de-sal plant was cancelled by the sport fishing lobby.

Too much industry drawing too much water.

But most importantly, not enough rainfall on the Nueces River watershed (Bracketville, Carrizo Springs, Tilden).

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I do understand the concerns. They're going to dump the brine in the Bay, not in the Gulf, and there's concern that it will cause the water to get TOO salty in the Bay and kill off a lot of fish...

We've been in a drought down here for quite awhile...water restrictions for years. I live on the island so I just have a rock yard, but I do have a pool...

I'm pretty sure the city council voted to continue on with the desal plant with their last vote...

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Part of the issue is the confusion over which desal plant we are talking about. There was a brackish water desal plant that would have discharged brine to Petronila Creek was killed largely by sport fishing interests who were confused about what the brine would actually be like relative to the already saline creek water.

Then there is the fully permitted CC inner harbor seawater desal plant that was planning to discharge to the CC channel that was killed initially by social justice issues and people confused about why constantly adding capacity and complexity to a plant design would cause the cost to go up. That one is back looking for a new design contractor now that the city council has voted to restart the process with a new contractor. But the status of the very large loan they received from TWDB for the plant is unclear at this point.

There is another port funded seawater desal plant that has not been fully permitted yet that plans to discharge their brine offshore in the gulf. I have questions about that one's durability to ride out a hurricane given its location, but it seems to be the least controversial and most likely to be approved without trouble.

People keep hearing details about one of these plants and conflating it with what is happening with another. Each of the plants has unresolved questions about their potential ecological impacts, but at some point Corpus is going to have to accept that either they start down the path on one or more of the plants right now, or they face losing major employers and having to make dramatic choices about who gets what little water they have left and what it will cost. For all those who think groundwater is the answer, keep in mind that pumping shallow groundwater in large quantities along the coast will almost certainly cause subsidence and will also impact ag viability in the area as well. Here is a map of what large scale groundwater pumping did for the Houston Galveston Area over the last century. Keep in mind that the contours are in meters, so it is showing 6-10 feet of subsidence in some areas. How would Houston's recent flooding be different with some of those areas 6-10' higher than they are today?

IMO, the largest issue that must be taken under consideration is the brine discharge.

The sports fisherman, probably CCCA, are correct that discharging into the creeks and/or bays will have a significant ecological impact. It needs to be take 7-10 miles offshore, or at least to the ledge. Whichever is closer. Running that much pipe in "shallow" water is easy and it is almost instant dilution.

The power requirements can easily be solved if envirowhackos would allow nuke plants to supply electricity. The state needs the power anyway, One reactor for de-sal, one for the grid, Win-win.

Busybodies, Karens, extreme conservationists, and general idiots have, without intent, formed an alliance that keeps throwing these into the scrap bin. All of them need to get some common sense slapped into them and realize they are about to lose their entire communities.

It shouldn't be this hard.

Seems like a no brainer: nuke plus de-Sal. And use the nuke cooling process, with appropriate monitoring, to pre-heat the desal water so the rest of the process is more efficient? Problem is a reactor design and approval takes 1-2 decades with out idiotic over regulation and use of custom one-off project designs.

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IMO, the largest issue that must be taken under consideration is the brine discharge.

The sports fisherman, probably CCCA, are correct that discharging into the creeks and/or bays will have a significant ecological impact. It needs to be take 7-10 miles offshore, or at least to the ledge. Whichever is closer. Running that much pipe in "shallow" water is easy and it is almost instant dilution.

The power requirements can easily be solved if envirowhackos would allow nuke plants to supply electricity. The state needs the power anyway, One reactor for de-sal, one for the grid, Win-win.

Busybodies, Karens, extreme conservationists, and general idiots have, without intent, formed an alliance that keeps throwing these into the scrap bin. All of them need to get some common sense slapped into them and realize they are about to lose their entire communities.

It shouldn't be this hard.

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The brine output will be significantly different between seawater desal and brackish groundwater desal. Generally, the brine effluent will be roughly 2x the input salinity. Brackish groundwater input will be generally 3,000-10,000 ppm tds and seawater is generally around 45,000 ppm. So the brackish groundwater desal brine that was to be discharged to Petronila Creek would have likely been around 12,000-15,000 ppm, which matches the salinity already in the creek in the area it was to be discharged, and would only be about 25% of the 60,000 ppm found downstream in Baffin Bay.

Discharging heavy brine into the ship channel was not ideal IMO, but there is an ecological cost to running a pipeline across miles of relatively shallow bay floor that gets dragged routinely by shrimpers. You either put the pipeline in the ground, which will cause its own amount of damage to the bay and increased cost, or you risk having a shrimper tear it open by snagging their net on it, then riding away in the darkness and telling nobody, spilling who knows how much hypersaline brine onto much shallower bay areas that are not as easily flushed. These are all choices that need to be made at some point. The time for kicking the can down the road and hoping a better option comes along ended a couple of years ago.

At this juncture, the sport fisherman are about to screwed.

Which frankly I'm fine with because they've been fighting this since the Nineties.

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The power requirements can easily be solved if envirowhackos would allow nuke plants to supply electricity. The state needs the power anyway, One reactor for de-sal, one for the grid, Win-win.

Busybodies, Karens, extreme conservationists, and general idiots have, without intent, formed an alliance that keeps throwing these into the scrap bin. All of them need to get some common sense slapped into them and realize they are about to lose their entire communities.

It shouldn't be this hard.

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To me, the brine discharge should be pretty easy to solve or educate the masses on. The nuclear plant option also should be easy for people that want a solution, but they have to be open to compromise. Most people should be pacified if they weren't so stupid or fearful or cowed when it comes to such a dire situation they are facing down there.

Your second paragraph is key, I know several people in Corpus like this, they conflate all the different issues and options that 92 points out so they are comparing apples, squash, and rhinos. My mom in Rockport was all concerned about the steel plant in Sinton crapping out Copano Bay with their discharge. I had to tell her it won't and even if it did, they are decades and decades away from that potential. I don't implicitly trust TCEQ or EPA by any stretch, but once permits are set up, there should be enough safety in them to account for harmful impact.

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Corpus is in serious trouble and will run dry this summer or next.

The desalination plant was not approved because they did not have energy capacity to run it. Desalination takes a HUGE amount of energy and they choose air conditioners and refining over water.

Water in the system does not make it to the corpus lakes.

The aquifer is running very low. If water were not being grabbed to run fracking up north then they would have more water in the aquifer, which would mean more in the river system. The rule in Texas is that whoever gets the water first owns it (Capture) so the guys up north are grabbing all they can and using it to push out oil. That means Austin and San Antonio don't have as much in the Edwards aquifer and they take more surface water, which means less for Corpus.

The State of Texas was approached 6-8 years ago with a plan to trade unused highway funds to Louisiana for water running into the Gulf of Mexico, which would then be piped to Austin and San Antonio. At the time Louisiana had a Democrat governor and the Texas Governor said he wouldn't cross the aisle. Even when told it was a 50 year solution for Central TX and central gulf water problems, he refused.

Water politics in Texas is in a bad place and is run by some bad people. And since using water is more profitable for oil, they get it over the commoners.

A couple years ago I thought about writing a book about the water wars in Texas. People think it is an issue for the future but this stuff has gone on for the last 20 years and the proverbial **** is about to hit the fan. Texas is in BIG trouble. There are so many band aids on the system right now.

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I listened to hours upon hours of the comments and responses before the council voted not to proceed with the desal plant design, and the lack of energy to operate it was not a topic of discussion. Social justice and who was going to foot the lion's share of the bill were much larger concerns and ultimately drove the vote against it. The increasing price estimate and lack of understanding about why definitely drove the discussion, and Kiewit did not send a rep to the meeting to defend the fact that the cost escalation was a direct result of CC's everchanging demands for changes to the design. When you ask them to double the output of the plant, and then nearly double it again, and then decide to put all of the utilities underground, guess what, the price is going way up. It was later suggested here, by Schmelba I think, that Kiewit didn't show up because they wanted out of the mess the project was going to be. The city has since voted to revive the project design process, but with a new contractor procurement.

The water being pulled for fracking from the edwards is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount being pulled to keep grass green and swimming pools filled. The vast majority of the water being sold for fracking is coming from the Carrizo Wilcox and Evangeline aquifers. The state of the Frio watershed is much more about ongoing drought than excess water use, though groundwater pumping in the western edwards is increasing. The rule of capture was largely done away with in 99 with the bill allowing the establishment of groundwater conservation districts to manage and permit groundwater extraction. They are weaker than they should be and there is an effort underway to find ways to strengthen their ability to limit wasteful water usage.

There is plenty of excess water in Lake Toledo Bend available for transfer to other basins without having to pay Louisiana anything. But the cost of building conveyance to get it anywhere it is needed is not currently worth it. There was a prop passed last fall to make a billion dollars available for shovel ready water projects, including conveyance construction. But so far, the cost to construct conveyances from there to where it is needed is too much to make it worth it.

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Don't let facts get in the way of a social justice warrior.

Random aside: Rockport has a very large RV community and a large number of winter Texans. All of those people can just up and leave when they want or not come back. Many are retired or have service type jobs they can do anywhere.

Can't tell you how many people we've met who moved here by driving through and just simply parked and didn't leave. Half of my wife's group at church are RV people who can just leave when they want.

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Random aside: Rockport has a very large RV community and a large number of winter Texans. All of those people can just up and leave when they want or not come back. Many are retired or have service type jobs they can do anywhere.

Can't tell you how many people we've met who moved here by driving through and just simply parked and didn't leave. Half of my wife's group at church are RV people who can just leave when they want.

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The Aransas County Commissioners are going to be loathe to do anything that impacts the tourism industry.

They stopped catering to anything not tourism when the shrimping industry went under and Rockport Yacht along with it (and the old carbon black plant).

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These are all choices that need to be made at some point. The time for kicking the can down the road and hoping a better option comes along ended a couple of years ago.

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100% agree with this.

As your post I pulled this from notes, there are fine details that can be discussed among the subject matter experts, but in general, a solution needs to be translated into a way the common person understands. 90% of people don't understand things the way we do, and as you point out, even I don't understand the intricacies of laying pipe out to the shelf. My work is onshore.

Either that, or someone in gov't needs to grow a pair and cram down this work. The mass of idiots truly don't understand the cliff they are heading towards at 100mph.