Losing the Midterms

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Will be the easiest 7 months of my life. The winning will be unmatched.

I would be more concerned if I was someone with such hate for one man that they disparage entire parties and nations and ethnicities and religion due to their dislike of Orange Man.

Buttercups need to check their belts and buckle up.
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jja79 said:

Keyno said:

jja79 said:

On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.

The "price to fill up" gas prices is not even the worst of it. The price of oil going up makes literally everything more expensive.


I'm trying to keep it simple for junior.

You are having difficulty with the calendar, recent memory of gas being much higher under Biden, and want to hide inside and not celebrate our Country because you haven't saved and diversified your portfolio enough to whether a 60 day minor setback that was done so your kids / grandkids are vaporized by Mahdi and his merry band of Ayatollahs… and i am the simpleton?

Thats funny right there.
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You and I know gasoline might have been higher under Biden. It wasn't where I live. I'm 69 years old so I've seen and survived ups and downs. Most Americans aren't bright, are being forced federal Trump is Hitler by the MSM, they're making their minds up right now.

I hope your pie in the sky comes true but a lot of people aren't seeing it now.
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I didn't want to assume your age just based on username and I am not going to call you a boomer or other such drivel, but I think it may be why we see this quite differently and that should be valued overall and I appreciate your response above.

But, there are generational differences in how each of us sees things. I think people continue to move to alternate sources for news / information. But thats created a new problem.

To your point, it will be what people feel, rational or not, as we near the election. As people moved from MSM to X, Truth Social, etc that had some positive impact on people learning the truth, but only for a while. With more users relying on social media, podcasts and the like, the more important those pesky algorithms become. And even if not nefarious, that it simply recognizes content you engage with and provides more, I have seen it over the past 6-12 months turn otherwise reasonable people, conservatives even, into Tucker/Nick/Candace bros repeating every wildarse story and theory out there.

I may have pie in the sky dreams and I do employ hyperbole maybe when I shouldn't, but I do think we are on a better path with Trump back at the helm, I am confident Iran will wrap up and the world will be better for it, and I am also hopeful this Easter that the movement amongst youth is to return to church and seek spiritual centering in their lives. Hopefully that time worshipping replaces doom scrolling Bibi rules the world theories on TikTok.
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I have no doubt Trump will lose the midterms.

Look at the stock market. Look at the job market.
I, as an American, am NOT winning, Sir.
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From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.
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DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).
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DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.


It will be a circus like never seen before. The terrible thing is the republican senate seems to want it to happen.

Impeachment will happen in the house in record time the only fight will be over what. Now if the senate is lost the question will be by how much. Because there are already about 5 Republican senators I would not bet against them voting in favor of impeachment. Then there are a few additional ones that just hate Trump. It's likely still not enough but it definitely could be something that seriously just is drug out for quite sometime unlike before.

The administration is also going to be constantly drug in for hearings. Will be a huge witch hunt for everything.

You probably should not call your base morons and run off your long time supporters. On Maxwell I would not bet against surprised if he pardons her before he leaves office.
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DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.


It will be a circus like never seen before. The terrible thing is the republican senate seems to want it to happen.

Impeachment will happen in the house in record time the only fight will be over what. Now if the senate is lost the question will be by how much. Because there are already about 5 Republican senators I would not bet against them voting in favor of impeachment. Then there are a few additional ones that just hate Trump. It's likely still not enough but it definitely could be something that seriously just is drug out for quite sometime unlike before.

The administration is also going to be constantly drug in for hearings. Will be a huge witch hunt for everything.

You probably should not call your base morons and run off your long time supporters. On Maxwell I would not bet against surprised if he pardons her before he leaves office.


Other than complete and total TDS, on what grounds could you possibly think that?
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Keyno said:

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).
Yes, Trump lied to his base about almost every promise and claim he made, but has his lying ever caused them to not support him? If the polls are accurate, most of Trump's base still fervently believes in him. When he said he could shoot and murder someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and his base would still continue to support him, apparently he was right.
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Hank the Grifter said:

AGHouston11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.


It will be a circus like never seen before. The terrible thing is the republican senate seems to want it to happen.

Impeachment will happen in the house in record time the only fight will be over what. Now if the senate is lost the question will be by how much. Because there are already about 5 Republican senators I would not bet against them voting in favor of impeachment. Then there are a few additional ones that just hate Trump. It's likely still not enough but it definitely could be something that seriously just is drug out for quite sometime unlike before.

The administration is also going to be constantly drug in for hearings. Will be a huge witch hunt for everything.

You probably should not call your base morons and run off your long time supporters. On Maxwell I would not bet against surprised if he pardons her before he leaves office.


Other than complete and total TDS, on what grounds could you possibly think that?


Because he has even floated it out at the time - "some people even say she should be pardoned, I don't know ".

Really that's something you say about Maxwell? But not surprising nobody including Bondi knows how she got transferred - yea right sure.

Not all of his supporters were the morons he called them!
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infinity ag said:

I have no doubt Trump will lose the midterms.

Look at the stock market. Look at the job market.
I, as an American, am NOT winning, Sir.
Trump is not running in the midterms unless something has changed.

Stock market and job market are fine. Lawt.
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DeschutesAg said:

Keyno said:

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).
Yes, Trump lied to his base about almost every promise and claim he made, but has his lying ever caused them to not support him? If the polls are accurate, most of Trump's base still fervently believes in him. When he said he could shoot and murder someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and his base would still continue to support him, apparently he was right.


Depends on who he "murdered" and what reason he had. Context matters.

And this is some of the biggest gaslighting on Trump's second term I think I have seen yet, but we still have 33 months to go so maybe the left gets more exotic in their lies.
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The job market is most definitely not fine, no matter how much Trump and the current federal govt continue to lie about it.

It wasnt fine under Biden, its not fine now with the same lies being told.
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AGHouston11 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

AGHouston11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.


It will be a circus like never seen before. The terrible thing is the republican senate seems to want it to happen.

Impeachment will happen in the house in record time the only fight will be over what. Now if the senate is lost the question will be by how much. Because there are already about 5 Republican senators I would not bet against them voting in favor of impeachment. Then there are a few additional ones that just hate Trump. It's likely still not enough but it definitely could be something that seriously just is drug out for quite sometime unlike before.

The administration is also going to be constantly drug in for hearings. Will be a huge witch hunt for everything.

You probably should not call your base morons and run off your long time supporters. On Maxwell I would not bet against surprised if he pardons her before he leaves office.


Other than complete and total TDS, on what grounds could you possibly think that?


Because he has even floated it out at the time - "some people even say she should be pardoned, I don't know ".

Really that's something you say about Maxwell? But not surprising nobody including Bondi knows how she got transferred - yea right sure.

Not all of his supporters were the morons he called them!


Please don't leave out the Charlottesville "fine people on both sides hoax", the "won't go to Normandy cause he hates troops and thinks they losers" and the Russia pee on mattress stories, etc. I mean if you are going to gaslight go ahead and open the valve full throttle.
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Keyno said:

DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).

Fake WMDs? Are you making the case that Iran wasn't trying to build a nuclear weapon? And haven't been trying for close to 50 years?
Look, I'm not thrilled with this term either but the Iran thing was going to have to happen sooner or later. Would you rather have waited when they were in a stronger position and we had another Obama/Biden in the Oval Office?
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Ag_of_08 said:

The job market is most definitely not fine, no matter how much Trump and the current federal govt continue to lie about it.

It wasnt fine under Biden, its not fine now with the same lies being told.

Job market is fine. It's not a lie.

Unemployment below 5% is not indicative of a terrible job market. Quit listening to Maddow and Mika.
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flown-the-coop said:

infinity ag said:

I have no doubt Trump will lose the midterms.

Look at the stock market. Look at the job market.
I, as an American, am NOT winning, Sir.
Trump is not running in the midterms unless something has changed.

Stock market and job market are fine. Lawt.


Other than a million executive orders he's accomplished almost nothing legislatively. If he loses Congress in the midterms his legacy unfortunately is going to be greatly remembered by the circus that follows. Then at some point the erasure of most of his executive orders. So much wasted opportunity by republicans!
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flown-the-coop said:

AGHouston11 said:

Hank the Grifter said:

AGHouston11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.


It will be a circus like never seen before. The terrible thing is the republican senate seems to want it to happen.

Impeachment will happen in the house in record time the only fight will be over what. Now if the senate is lost the question will be by how much. Because there are already about 5 Republican senators I would not bet against them voting in favor of impeachment. Then there are a few additional ones that just hate Trump. It's likely still not enough but it definitely could be something that seriously just is drug out for quite sometime unlike before.

The administration is also going to be constantly drug in for hearings. Will be a huge witch hunt for everything.

You probably should not call your base morons and run off your long time supporters. On Maxwell I would not bet against surprised if he pardons her before he leaves office.


Other than complete and total TDS, on what grounds could you possibly think that?


Because he has even floated it out at the time - "some people even say she should be pardoned, I don't know ".

Really that's something you say about Maxwell? But not surprising nobody including Bondi knows how she got transferred - yea right sure.

Not all of his supporters were the morons he called them!


Please don't leave out the Charlottesville "fine people on both sides hoax", the "won't go to Normandy cause he hates troops and thinks they losers" and the Russia pee on mattress stories, etc. I mean if you are going to gaslight go ahead and open the valve full throttle.


None of that is even relevant. Those were Democrat evented narratives driven to be believed as fact.

The Epstein debacle is mostly Trump's and his administration's own making! No not the files but the events that occurred during his administration. Including his administration transferring Maxwell after meeting with her. Including himself suggesting some saying she should be pardoned - nobody was suggesting that!
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The faux outcry over Epstein "files" is absolutely a Dem narrative being led by Dem operatives like Thomas Massie. It should be pretty clear by now but others struggle to understand who is playing them.

But sure, Trump is incompetent and has accomplished nothing. Again, you are welcome to feel that what, just know if is not connected with reality.
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flown-the-coop said:

DeschutesAg said:

Keyno said:

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).
Yes, Trump lied to his base about almost every promise and claim he made, but has his lying ever caused them to not support him? If the polls are accurate, most of Trump's base still fervently believes in him. When he said he could shoot and murder someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and his base would still continue to support him, apparently he was right.
Depends on who he "murdered" and what reason he had. Context matters.

And this is some of the biggest gaslighting on Trump's second term I think I have seen yet, but we still have 33 months to go so maybe the left gets more exotic in their lies.
You're one of the people in his base who still fervently believes in Trump and supports him, correct? There are a number of people who regularly post in this forum who are in that category of voters.

If most of Trump's economic policies and other policy gambits continue to go badly, which is very likely, is there any scenario where Trump will lose your support?

I suspect the answer is "no" for the Trump base's hardcore believers. As many as 25% to 30% of adult Americans are deeply immersed in the rightwing media information bubble. They have adopted beliefs from that genre, and they'll never stop believing in him and his lies.

Yet the U.S. economy is going to increasingly be battered and damaged by the policies Trump and his Heritage Foundation John Birch advisors have done thus far in his 2nd term, which presumably they plan to continue doing. It will be interesting to see how his base deals with it.
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And there are probably the same percentage that live in a pedt wing bubble. I think there is so much hate for both sides by the middle. No telling what happens next. The Dems approval rating is in the crapper. I have no idea what turnout will be. Nobody does. The Dems aren't making anybody in the middle jump for joy. They are so focused on the social issues and screaming the lie that the rich don't pay their fair share that people are getting turned off.
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DeschutesAg said:

flown-the-coop said:

DeschutesAg said:

Keyno said:

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).
Yes, Trump lied to his base about almost every promise and claim he made, but has his lying ever caused them to not support him? If the polls are accurate, most of Trump's base still fervently believes in him. When he said he could shoot and murder someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and his base would still continue to support him, apparently he was right.
Depends on who he "murdered" and what reason he had. Context matters.

And this is some of the biggest gaslighting on Trump's second term I think I have seen yet, but we still have 33 months to go so maybe the left gets more exotic in their lies.
You're one of the people in his base who still fervently believes in Trump and supports him, correct? There are a number of people who regularly post in this forum who are in that category of voters.

If most of Trump's economic policies and other policy gambits continue to go badly, which is very likely, is there any scenario where Trump will lose your support?

I suspect the answer is "no" for the Trump base's hardcore believers. As many as 25% to 30% of adult Americans are deeply immersed in the rightwing media information bubble. They have adopted beliefs from that genre, and they'll never stop believing in him and his lies.

Yet the U.S. economy is going to increasingly be battered and damaged by the policies Trump and his Heritage Foundation John Birch advisors have done thus far in his 2nd term, which presumably they plan to continue doing. It will be interesting to see how his base deals with it.


Strawman. You are assuming with that question that I believe his economic policies and other policy gambits have gone bad. Not only do I not believe that, there are literally mountains of evidence to counter this "Trump 2.0 is a disaster and he betrayed his voters". It's simply not true.

From there you put words in my mouth with "I suspect the answer is 'no'", done in order to try and support your lame arse strawman.

You also make claims he lies and his supporters blindly believe those lies. Another strawman, 2 for 2 on your points so far.

It will be interesting to see what the Dems do when they get shellacked in the midterms. Hating America and its history, its people and its victories is the Dem strategy, but I don't think its a good one.
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backintexas2013 said:

And there are probably the same percentage that live in a pedt wing bubble. I think there is so much hate for both sides by the middle. No telling what happens next. The Dems approval rating is in the crapper. I have no idea what turnout will be. Nobody does. The Dems aren't making anybody in the middle jump for joy. They are so focused on the social issues and screaming the lie that the rich don't pay their fair share that people are getting turned off.
Good points.

"Trump and the Rs are a disaster, but the dysfunctional Dems are even worse" narrative will probably be a winning formula for Vance or Rubio in 2028. But imo that narrative won't be enough to succeed in the November 2026 midterm elections. Trump needs for his policies to start succeeding. Unless a miracle occurs, that does not seem likely.
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Your response simply proves his 3rd paragraph to be true.
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We know it's about turnout. I don't know how much either side cares. Neither side has a real plan moving forward.
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EFR said:

Your response simply proves his 3rd paragraph to be true.

How? Or are you just driving by?
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flown-the-coop said:

The faux outcry over Epstein "files" is absolutely a Dem narrative being led by Dem operatives like Thomas Massie. It should be pretty clear by now but others struggle to understand who is playing them.

But sure, Trump is incompetent and has accomplished nothing. Again, you are welcome to feel that what, just know if is not connected with reality.


You obviously have your own reality which is fine. Mine consists of not recalling one Democrat running on the Epstein files should be released. So the idiots that ran on that created the narrative when they were elected and then started calling it a hoax.

Easy to call out Massie and not remember the other Republicans Trump personally called to the whitehouse to persuade them not to vote for the release. It would have only taken one of them.
Pretty crazy he then after failing to get even one of them, only then called for the total release. Ok nothing at all looks ridiculous with that.

But go back to what Trump said and call everyone morons if they say the same things his administration said before being put into office! None of it will matter come November.

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AGHouston11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

The faux outcry over Epstein "files" is absolutely a Dem narrative being led by Dem operatives like Thomas Massie. It should be pretty clear by now but others struggle to understand who is playing them.

But sure, Trump is incompetent and has accomplished nothing. Again, you are welcome to feel that what, just know if is not connected with reality.


You obviously have your own reality which is fine. Mine consists of not recalling one Democrat running on the Epstein files should be released. So the idiots that ran on that created the narrative when they were elected and then started calling it a hoax.

Easy to call out Massie and not remember the other Republicans Trump personally called to the whitehouse to persuade them not to vote for the release. It would have only taken one of them.
Pretty crazy he then after failing to get of them only then called for the total release. Ok nothing at all looks ridiculous with that.

But go back to what Trump said and call everyone morons if they say the same things his administration said before being put into office! None of it will matter come November.
Also being ignored is the Todd Blanche meetings and secret deal-making with Ghislaine Maxwell & her attorney. Contrary to DOJ rules and policy, no DOJ line attorney was present to witness what Trump's former personal attorney said and what deals were made. No DOJ line attorneys were there to document those secret meetings.

It was blatant corruption and another obvious coverup of the sex trafficking scandal. And other than a few exceptions like Massie, Mace, Boebert, and MTG, the response from the rest of Congressional Rs, MAGA Rs, TPUSA and 99% of evangelical Rs and rightwing Catholics and rightwing Zionists was the thundering sound of duplicitous silence and cowardly acquiescence.
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AGHouston11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

The faux outcry over Epstein "files" is absolutely a Dem narrative being led by Dem operatives like Thomas Massie. It should be pretty clear by now but others struggle to understand who is playing them.

But sure, Trump is incompetent and has accomplished nothing. Again, you are welcome to feel that what, just know if is not connected with reality.


You obviously have your own reality which is fine. Mine consists of not recalling one Democrat running on the Epstein files should be released. So the idiots that ran on that created the narrative when they were elected and then started calling it a hoax.

Easy to call out Massie and not remember the other Republicans Trump personally called to the whitehouse to persuade them not to vote for the release. It would have only taken one of them.
Pretty crazy he then after failing to get even one of them, only then called for the total release. Ok nothing at all looks ridiculous with that.

But go back to what Trump said and call everyone morons if they say the same things his administration said before being put into office! None of it will matter come November.



Is it sad to live everyday with nothing but contempt and hate for the man who stands tall for America? All because Beyonc and TayTay told you Kamala was the better choice?

"But it was a super serious campaign promise and now he is a pedo protector!"… the trope is old, its incorrect, and there are certainly more important things going on than Jeffrey Epstein, who Bob Mueller covered for along with Obama.
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DeschutesAg said:

AGHouston11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

The faux outcry over Epstein "files" is absolutely a Dem narrative being led by Dem operatives like Thomas Massie. It should be pretty clear by now but others struggle to understand who is playing them.

But sure, Trump is incompetent and has accomplished nothing. Again, you are welcome to feel that what, just know if is not connected with reality.


You obviously have your own reality which is fine. Mine consists of not recalling one Democrat running on the Epstein files should be released. So the idiots that ran on that created the narrative when they were elected and then started calling it a hoax.

Easy to call out Massie and not remember the other Republicans Trump personally called to the whitehouse to persuade them not to vote for the release. It would have only taken one of them.
Pretty crazy he then after failing to get of them only then called for the total release. Ok nothing at all looks ridiculous with that.

But go back to what Trump said and call everyone morons if they say the same things his administration said before being put into office! None of it will matter come November.
Also being ignored is the Todd Blanche meetings and secret deal-making with Ghislaine Maxwell & her attorney. Contrary to DOJ rules and policy, no DOJ line attorney was present to witness what Trump's former personal attorney said and what deals were made. No DOJ line attorneys were there to document those secret meetings.

It was blatant corruption and another obvious coverup of the sex trafficking scandal. And other than a few exceptions like Massie, Mace, Boebert, and MTG, the response from the rest of Congressional Rs, MAGA Rs, TPUSA and 99% of evangelical Rs and rightwing Catholics and rightwing Zionists was the thundering sound of duplicitous silence and cowardly acquiescence.


There it is. I knew we could get some leftwing hate for Christians and Jews on Easter. Give folks time, they will show you who they are.
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Keyno said:

DeschutesAg said:

From Day One of his second term, Trump has engaged in a substantial number of extremely risky gambits. I give him some credit for that. Because whether he is ultimately correct or incorrect in his judgement, he has pushed all of his and the GOP's chips to the center of the table.

From the rightwing perspective, he better succeed. If he fails -- and thus far after 15 months he has been failing spectacularly on every major issue sans one (border control) -- the result will be the Dems not only re-taking control of the House, they might even win control of the Senate.

If the Ds win control of both the House and the Senate, Trump might as well go golfing six days a week. His appointees will be facing true oversight, and many of them could choose to leave their positions. Todd Blanche will be put under oath and forced to choose between committing perjury or revealing the secret deal he made with Ghislaine Maxwell. Numerous other Trump appointees will face a similar choice: commit perjury or tell the truth about the corruption they participated in.

No, what Trump has done is completely betray his base (like the GOP has been doing for a very long time). We are not getting mass deportations, he is covering up the Epstein stuff, he has surrounded himself with "neocons", inflation is not fixed, we are still doing a war in Ukraine for some reason, and then to top it all off, we get another middle east war over fake WMDs (because, of course).


I tend to agree with you.
Homan has been silent lately. The Dems scared Trump in Minneapolis. Deportations seem to have gone silent. H1Bs and all other visas still running riot when we can't get jobs here, I saw they brought in 85k H1Bs again this year. Stock market is crap.

Not much has changed.
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flown-the-coop said:

infinity ag said:

I have no doubt Trump will lose the midterms.

Look at the stock market. Look at the job market.
I, as an American, am NOT winning, Sir.

Trump is not running in the midterms unless something has changed.

Stock market and job market are fine. Lawt.


No.
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Ag_of_08 said:

The job market is most definitely not fine, no matter how much Trump and the current federal govt continue to lie about it.

It wasnt fine under Biden, its not fine now with the same lies being told.


Exactly, I don't know why people are lying about the job market. It is terrible and has been for 3+ years. I feel there is an uptick recently but who knows. Other than Trump yapping about it and his lapdogs barking the same thing, there is no change. Stock markets are down YTD as well so there is no silver lining.

The only reason why some people may think the job market is good is if they are looking for HVAC/plumber/sewage jobs. Those may not have taken a hit but white collar jobs have.
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infinity ag said:

flown-the-coop said:

infinity ag said:

I have no doubt Trump will lose the midterms.

Look at the stock market. Look at the job market.
I, as an American, am NOT winning, Sir.

Trump is not running in the midterms unless something has changed.

Stock market and job market are fine. Lawt.


No.

I am essentially flat to up just a tad for 2026. Unemployment is under 5%.

Yes, by any comparison to historical context we are not. I am hiring people over the next few months and all of my family and friends have stable employment.

Trump is not losing the midterms. I have no idea why you are not individually winning. I am clueless as to how you arrive at it. Absolutely clueless.
 
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