Trump War speech

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2 weeks, eh?

I wonder if that's his "first term healthcare plan 2 weeks," his "2 weeks to stop the spread 2 weeks", or his "Russian/Ukraine ultimatum 2 weeks"
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Love Trump most of the time.

However, when dealing with a human stain to the world like Iran's leadership, after engagement, the only timeline that should be referenced is "when we are DONE". The media pressuring when that is is only to provide Iran with a timeline they can hold out to. Never should have put a timeline on it.

Kill the entire Supreme line. All of them. Kill anyone that MAY try to keep that thread of human excrement ongoing. It is a poisonous stain to humanity. Assure the Strait is open to traffic, on a permanent level. Hammer their ass, repeatedly.

Any allies that don't help full tilt, cut them off the oil we procure. They are not our allies in reality. They can feel the pain of that from us, or the Islamists they let into their countries with their terrorists assses. Pick one. The former is their best option. Export the Islamists if they are that threatening. Nut up.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Why attack Biden and/or Obama? And technically Reagen, Bush, Clinton, and Bush?

This board clearly thinks Trump is better than sliced bread. So why are the attacks on past presidents necessary?
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GMaster0 said:

He was a little insane, perhaps he has a cognitive disorder? Americans were not reassured by his words, he said 2-3 weeks originally and now 2-3 more weeks. More financial pain, and more Americans troops maimed and dead. What a joke.

They said 4-6 weeks from the get-go.
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JClark97 said:

Who cares about temporary stock market fluctuations. We've obliterated their nuclear / missile capabilities. This was a long term investment. I'll be curious to see if the Iranian people can rise up and take their country back…


I thought we did that already as per Trump. So we've done it twice now?
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This nails Trump. Action and Results compared to Eloquent fluff bull*****
But sadly, the Eloquent bull**** still gets more traction and positive feedback.
I've given up on trying to change minds.
I'm worried sick about when Trump and Republicans lose power. Which we will.
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I'm trying to see the difference between this and a truth social post while sitting on the ****ter.
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He said we're not importing oil. If true, what's causing the increase in prices at the pump? Is it because the oil companies are exporting at an increased price per barrel vs selling it to consumers in the states?
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A lot of obama and biden supporters on this segment. commie democrats???
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BigN--00 said:

Why attack Biden and/or Obama? And technically Reagen, Bush, Clinton, and Bush?

This board clearly thinks Trump is better than sliced bread. So why are the attacks on past presidents necessary?

It is the way of the political world now. Everyone defends their position by pointing fingers at the other position saying 'at least we are not them.' It is the exact same thing Democrats do when challenegd about Biden. They will not try to defend Biden or his policies. Instead they just say 'Better than Trump.' This has always happened of course, but NOTHING like it happens now.

The last politician I can think of that stood on his own..... I don't even want to type it because if I do many of you will just do what I said in the first paragraph. But there is no more standing on your own principals. We are in a death spiral.
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Maroonedinaustin said:

He said we're not importing oil. If true, what's causing the increase in prices at the pump? Is it because the oil companies are exporting at an increased price per barrel vs selling it to consumers in the states?

Oil is a global commodity. If the price goes up elsewhere, it goes up here. Maybe not exactly as much, but pretty close. It's not that the local manufacturers are conspiring to push price up; it's just the way free markets work.

Same thing happens on the way down. If global markets decline, you'll see it reflected in oil prices here also.
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Swollen Thumb said:

GMaster0 said:

He was a little insane, perhaps he has a cognitive disorder? Americans were not reassured by his words, he said 2-3 weeks originally and now 2-3 more weeks. More financial pain, and more Americans troops maimed and dead. What a joke.

They said 4-6 weeks from the get-go.


I am Confident somebody said 4-6 weeks but the Trump Foreign Policy team almost always has a wide range of responses

I am very confident at least one person said this kinetic action* will be over in a couple of weeks

I remember when this was not a war but a kinetic action
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Everybody thinks the oil belongs to the United States of America and it increases the countries wealth. Nope. The oil belongs to a corporation who then sells to the highest bidder. ExxonMobil and Chevron are not giving you a hometown discount on Permian crude.
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My guess is by 2028 the Republicans will be in a similar position that the Democrats were in 2024. They will be trying the best they can to distance themselves from a President that has completely lost the vast majority of voters. One difference is going to be that the Ds were able to at least shut Biden up. That is going to be much more difficult for Rs two years from now.
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The Oil is in the ground ( for the most part) A country can't "take" the oil unless it holds the grounds

But maybe I am misunderstanding the nature of the O&G business
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Hoyt Ag said:

Markets no likey.


Unless it's the cattle market. $100 oil, packer strikes, WWIII, nothing can break it
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Sq 17 said:

Swollen Thumb said:

GMaster0 said:

He was a little insane, perhaps he has a cognitive disorder? Americans were not reassured by his words, he said 2-3 weeks originally and now 2-3 more weeks. More financial pain, and more Americans troops maimed and dead. What a joke.

They said 4-6 weeks from the get-go.


I am Confident somebody said 4-6 weeks but the Trump Foreign Policy team almost always has a wide range of responses

I am very confident at least one person said this kinetic action* will be over in a couple of weeks

I remember when this was not a war but a kinetic action


It's been 4-6 weeks since day 1 from Trump and the people in his cabinet that matter. Anyone on here is free to look it up. It was all over the media and has been consistent since then. You can consult WSJ as an example.

And never mind the practical memory holing that he's down to less than 30 days before he has to go to Congress to continue this.

The non-stop lying on this (I'm not saying you are, personally) is exhausting.
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mjschiller said:

A lot of obama and biden supporters on this segment. commie democrats???


I voted for Trump twice. Holding him to the same standard I would hold any president to, doesn't make me a "commie democrat". This war is beyond dumb. It's been a **** show. Republicans are going to get buried in the mid terms. And it's not because the idiot libs actually DID anything. They literally just moved aside and let Trump **** everything up. Long term investment might be the dumbest talking point I've seen him ever make. Was the Iraq war a long term investment? Lol
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MemphisAg1 said:

ShotOver said:

MemphisAg1 said:

He's the consummate salesman. Just who he is. It brings a lot of good things with it. Just have to look past the annoying part of it.

By contrast... Obama was much more slick and polished when speaking, but he was also a snake.

I'll take Trump over that every day of the week and twice on Sunday!

Me too, …. But what an egomaniac….

Lol, I agree, no doubt. I've just learned to take it with the good. And there's been a lot of good compared to the Biden and Obama administrations.


That's always the comeback, isn't it? Compare to an obviously flawed predecessor and call it "better". Well, I disagree. We deserve better.
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Even as powerful as the US is, we cannot afford to go around "fixing" every issue that exists.
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The Google machine says that Hegseth said 2-8 weeks
So I am going with my initial assertion that members of the Trump team gave a wide range of responses

The prompt I gave the Google machine was How long was the Iran conflict going to last according to the Trump administration
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Sq 17 said:

The Google machine says that Hegseth said 2-8 weeks
So I am going with my initial assertion that members of the Trump team gave a wide range of responses

The prompt I gave the Google machine was How long was the Iran conflict going to last according to the Trump administration


So, still well within range then. Thanks.

Others keep saying 2-3 weeks.
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Sq 17 said:

The Google machine says that Hegseth said 2-8 weeks
So I am going with my initial assertion that members of the Trump team gave a wide range of responses

The prompt I gave the Google machine was How long was the Iran conflict going to last according to the Trump administration


People are very focused on this timeline thing. Are we really any closer to the resolution than we were March 1? I don't see any evidence that anything is close to being resolved and we've had 4 weeks of "it's almost over" already. Is it over if Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz?
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Yes but the Sec of War did say it could be over in as little as two weeks which is different than 4-6 weeks

You are correct that for the most part the administration has been consistent on messaging but I am also correct that somebody did say it could be over in a couple of weeks
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IMO the dumbest talking point is that we are going to take the oil

Can't take the oil
Without holding the ground which would require 10's of thousands of boots on the ground
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agsalaska said:

My guess is by 2028 the Republicans will be in a similar position that the Democrats were in 2024. They will be trying the best they can to distance themselves from a President that has completely lost the vast majority of voters. One difference is going to be that the Ds were able to at least shut Biden up. That is going to be much more difficult for Rs two years from now.

How similar can it be? Trump is a lame duck compared to Biden running for 2nd term. I think Republicans have good potential candidates for 2028. Personally I hope Rubio gets the nomination. Biden won the Dem primary in '24 and was their party's nominee and then got forced out and replaced with no election. Very different IMO.
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Texag5324 said:

Trump basically said a lot of nothing. What a waste of a speech.

Not everything can be as important or impactful as you think your post was...
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Sq 17 said:

Yes but the Sec of War did say it could be over in as little as two weeks which is different than 4-6 weeks

You are correct that for the most part the administration has been consistent on messaging but I am also correct that somebody did say it could be over in a couple of weeks


Fine. I'm correcting the liars who keep saying the message was that this would go no longer than 2-3 weeks.
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Sq 17 said:

Yes but the Sec of War did say it could be over in as little as two weeks which is different than 4-6 weeks

You are correct that for the most part the administration has been consistent on messaging but I am also correct that somebody did say it could be over in a couple of weeks


This makes my brain want to bleed inside of my skull.

Somebody did say it could be over in a couple of weeks???

We are bombing a freaking country who has been preparing for this for a long time. Heaven forbid the timelines might get changed?

Could be over in a couple of weeks? And then isn't? And we throw a fit?

I'm not a big trump fan but the amount of people that want to run to texags to dunk on trump and his "failure" is insane.

Let's wait until this thing actually escalates before we pee our pants and cry on message boards.
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This. Folks who are reacting the way some are is exactly what Iran is counting on.
Does no one on this board remember the S&P being at 2400 during Covid? Markets go up and go down. Thats why a lot of folks refer to it as "as playing the stock market".
Take a deep breath and just imagine if we had Harris and Walz running the show.
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Gunny456 said:

This. Folks who are reacting the way some are is exactly what Iran is counting on.
Does no one on this board remember the S&P being at 2400 during Covid? Markets go up and go down. Thats why a lot of folks refer to it as "as playing the stock market".
Take a deep breath and just imagine if we had Harris and Walz running the show.

They all wish Harris and Walz were running the show.
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In case you wanted a Trump speech straight from the heart:

San Angelo LIVE!
https://sanangelolive.com/
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GAC06 said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

What was the purpose of this speech? I have to assume he's giving some coded message to an asset in Iran or something.


Those all go out over truth social

Nope, those go out over signal.
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If Trump makes a deal to get the strait open these posters on here will be so disappointed.
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Trump just ended a 5 decade war. That's exciting.
 
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