So, as we sit here thousands of miles away fretting about Trump "ending a civilization" and blowing up some bridges, what do you think the IIRG and mullahs are doing about now?

Trump says things to get a reaction and people still take him literally. Amazing.

So to everyone pointing to past wars (esp. WWII) to say that the targeting of civilian infrastructure is not a war crime, the restrictions on targeting civilian infrastructure was a part of the Geneva convention treaty, signed after WWII (which the US is a party to). So in as much as the US military has the legal obligation to comply with treaties that the government has signed, it is subject to those restrictions.

My understanding is that it's not a black and white question of if civilian infrastructure is subject to military attack. If there's a military purpose to attack a particular target, than it can be attacked. Like if there is a bridge that is known to be used to resupply the enemy, that bridge can be attacked. However, it would violate the international law of armed conflict to just indiscriminately bomb bridges because bridges are used for resupply. The idea is that if civilian suffering is a byproduct of the destruction of legitimate military targets -- well, that's part of the fact that war is hell. However, making the lives of civilians hell should not be the objective of the military strikes.

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Looks like new talking points have been distributed to be parrotted.

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this

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akm91 said:

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Dresden right?

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Yes.......

Here's more info about near total destruction of German cities in WWII.....

During WWII, Allied bombing campaigns heavily destroyed numerous German cities, with total destruction in some cases
. Key cities "bombed into oblivion" included Dresden, Hamburg, Pforzheim, and Dortmund, often using incendiary bombs to create firestorms. Approximately 600,000 German civilians died in these raids, which reduced many city centers to rubble by 1945."

OP is obviously incapable of performing a simple Google search of past wars on this planet.......


Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hello to the OP!

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But only after the Germans bombed the crap out of cities in Britain (mostly London) with their V1 buzz bombs that were guided in a primitive manner (primarily distance and direction). When their fuel ran out, they fell wherever they were. As long as people on the ground could hear the buzzing, the bombs were still airborne. Once the buzzing stopped, the bombs were on their way down. They carried two primary detonation systems, one upon impact and then a second one after impact to cause more damage to whatever it hit. A third was timed for about two hours after impact for self destruction and to harm responders.

The bombing of London started a few days after D-Day in 1944, well before the Allies were bombing anything within Germany.

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We'll get in line behind Hamas for our war crimes trail and get punished just as soon as they do.

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Agador Spartacus said:

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It's pretty clear at this point that Trump isn't worried about threatening / committing international war crimes.

Simply bombing civilian infrastructure is a clear and obvious war crime, and this morning he went a step further and threatened genocide against the entire Iranian civilization. ("A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again...")

Taking away the emotion of this, which is admittedly high, how far would this need to go before the 25th could potentially be invoked?

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So bombing missile launchers, factories, transportation and logistic to move said launchers or build them is Civilian infrastructure ??????

This is absolutely the dumbest thing I have read today. One thing Iran can count on is the American left to save the day. Do you people really think he would use nukes in this situation ? He probably trying to get more reasonable elements to turn on their radicals by turning up the heat.

This could be and likely is psyops. But the left is all REEEEEEEE with brains off as usual. Now if Trump nukes civilian infrastructure then sure arrest him and that is about as likely as the sun coming up in the west.

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When Trump doesn't nuke Iran tonight, all the people screaming he's about to commit genocide will seamlessly shift to posting "Taco Tuesday" memes and claiming he chickened out.

It's all a game to these people.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) April 7, 2026

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I am praying for a TACO.

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Of course he will TACO. This is just a Hail Mary. Do y'all really think he's going to "end their civilization"? Really?

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I honestly don't know what Trump will do anymore. Iran has called his bluff. I've said this multiple times over the weeks- if Trump's wants to achieve his stated objectives it's going to take boots on the ground or nukes.

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Typical liberal: sounds intelligent at first, then you realize that they simply made up everything they wrote.

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I wouldn't go that far.

Another great day for Putin and Xi.

Someone needs to put ole Agador Spartacus back in his Bird Cage...

Agador Spartacus said:

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The amount of MAGA cope going on is insane to me. I started losing faith in Trump slowly...... but this conflict is pushing me over the edge.

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There's plenty of things to dislike about Trump...but this isn't really one of them IMO. But you do you.

There's also the tu coque argument being made by a number of posters that because Iran doesn't abide by the law of armed conflict that neither should the United States. The terms of the Geneva Convention specifically discount that argument, holding that signatories are responsible to uphold it regardless of whether or not their adversaries do. There's of course a long history of the US upholding those obligations even when adversaries did not. For example, it violates the law of armed conflict for combatants to dress as civilians, but US combat against insurgencies has had to deal with that tactic for decades.

Pentagon officials say a Nuclear Strike is not an option and that people should calm down.

— 0HOUR1 (@0hour1) April 7, 2026

The pentagon reads the posts of Karens here.

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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And you'd have no problem with that if Trump said it about Israel so spare me your pearl clutching.

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Haha of course you didn't answer. And you are wrong as usual. I am a Catholic and do not support "killing entire civilizations" obviously.

Again- Trump threatened a genocide. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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Pull your head out of your ass. He speaks n hyperbole and you know that. Bombing power plants and bridges does not wipe out a civilization And he's not even going to do much of that I bet. Btw why doesn't the UN arrest Putin for bombing civilians in Ukraine? Why not Xi for threatening to take Taiwan by force?

If OP had been around during WWII, we would undoubtedly be speaking German and/or Japanese now.

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Another great day for Putin and Xi.

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In what way? Russia is running catastrophic loses in the Ukraine and China has had its oil imports severely restricted. So do tell, how is this a great day, considering its barely started, for those demparty allies. Do you people ever post detail or make a case. Or its just this constant drum beat of mindless one liner crap.

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Pentagon officials say a Nuclear Strike is not an option and that people should calm down.

— 0HOUR1 (@0hour1) April 7, 2026

The pentagon reads the posts of Karens here.

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Ha no, theyve seen the deranged talking points and are shaking their heads just like we are at the TDS'ers haha

Agador Spartacus said:

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It's pretty clear at this point that Trump isn't worried about threatening / committing international war crimes.

Simply bombing civilian infrastructure is a clear and obvious war crime, and this morning he went a step further and threatened genocide against the entire Iranian civilization. ("A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again...")

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I must have missed your post expressing concern for Christians in Nigeria.

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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When did speech, saying something, become a war crime? In your world, if speech is a war crime, does that extend to thought also being a war crime?

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Ohh I get it. You are doing that thing where you pretend to not understand what I was asking, and then respond according to that. Nice!

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What I understand is that you asked if a genocide threat is a war crime "still" or not anymore. The answer is no, a threat never was nor is it now. But you knew that. TDS is a terrible condition.

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So, as we sit here thousands of miles away fretting about Trump "ending a civilization" and blowing up some bridges, what do you think the IIRG and mullahs are doing about now?

Trump says things to get a reaction and people still take him literally. Amazing.

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That is kind of the point though. He does not seem to get any reaction and no one anywhere has any faith in the man's word.

The Iranians have cut off communications after Trump's latest threats. It is similar to the Chinese openly laughing at his tariff threats towards the end of those "negotiations" and Trump eventually backing down.

President Trump has somehow delivered a scenario where completely ignoring the President of the United States is the optimal game planning scenario for foreign countries.

We live in such strange times.

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But only after the Germans bombed the crap out of cities in Britain (mostly London) with their V1 buzz bombs that were guided in a primitive manner (primarily distance and direction). When their fuel ran out, they fell wherever they were. As long as people on the ground could hear the buzzing, the bombs were still airborne. Once the buzzing stopped, the bombs were on their way down. They carried two primary detonation systems, one upon impact and then a second one after impact to cause more damage to whatever it hit. A third was timed for about two hours after impact for self destruction and to harm responders.

The bombing of London started a few days after D-Day in 1944, well before the Allies were bombing anything within Germany.

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The British first dropped bombs on a couple of occasions in 1939, targeting German ships.
Both Germany and the British were bombing each other's cities in 1940. And the US was definitely bombing Germany well before D-Day.

Look Trump really is totally crazy guys. Even his former allies are calling for the 25th Amendment! He can't be stopped. Guess the only option is for Iran to surrender unconditionally.

— Will Chamberlain (@willchamberlain) April 7, 2026

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Another great day for Putin and Xi.

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( Meant to reply to ttu85 )

Did you miss the reports that some Russian Oil was being allowed to move because of shortages

The US is burning through things that go boom at an alarming rate -

The US relationships with our Allies are at a low point because of the questionable tariff policies

So yes this ongoing situation is good for Xi and Putin

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So, as we sit here thousands of miles away fretting about Trump "ending a civilization" and blowing up some bridges, what do you think the IIRG and mullahs are doing about now?

Trump says things to get a reaction and people still take him literally. Amazing.

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That is kind of the point though. He does not seem to get any reaction and no one anywhere has any faith in the man's word.

The Iranians have cut off communications after Trump's latest threats. It is similar to the Chinese openly laughing at his tariff threats towards the end of those "negotiations" and Trump eventually backing down.

President Trump has somehow delivered a scenario where completely ignoring the President of the United States is the optimal game planning scenario for foreign countries.

We live in such strange times.

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Trump did that? At least since obama have american presidents' threats and red lines been routinely ignored. I remember the gas and I remember Biden saying "dont."

The real issue is that we have a very squishy percentage of our population that will probably never allow us to politically win another war.

Agador Spartacus said:

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It's pretty clear at this point that Trump isn't worried about threatening / committing international war crimes.

Simply bombing civilian infrastructure is a clear and obvious war crime, and this morning he went a step further and threatened genocide against the entire Iranian civilization. ("A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again...")

Taking away the emotion of this, which is admittedly high, how far would this need to go before the 25th could potentially be invoked?

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So, you're saying the 8th AF committed war crimes in WW2? It is not a war crime to bomb civilian
infrastructure. I was in the AF for 20 years. It was a taught doctrine to bomb strategic centers gravity. AKA civilian infrastructure. Stop getting your news from the View and MSNBC.

Genocide? Really? The lefties truly are insane. Not gonna be a genocide you can calm the f down. You all are the ones who claim not wanting to mutilate children on the altar of trans as "genocide" too so spare me.

I will entertain your war crimes argument if you can document for me all the times you had war crimes concerns for all the civilian targets hit by Iran.

Also, I am willing to hear out your concerns about the wiping out a civilization when you demonstrate your track record of concern from the last 47 years about the Death to America position from Iran.

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Genocide? Really? The lefties truly are insane. Not gonna be a genocide you can calm the f down. You all are the ones who claim not wanting to mutilate children on the altar of trans as "genocide" too so spare me.

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By this afternoon it will leak that Trump has dugout our chemical weapons and is planning to gas mass sections of Iran and that they will actually use napalm to get the children to disperse from the power plants.

There is no limit to the depravity of Trump. 25th NOW!

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Trump did that? At least since obama have american presidents' threats and red lines been routinely ignored. I remember the gas and I remember Biden saying "dont."

The real issue is that we have a very squishy percentage of our population that will probably never allow us to politically win another war.

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Pretty much. Sure, others have weakened the power of the office but he deserves the vast majority of the responsibility because of the volume and intensity of his daily communication and his inability to work through traditional channels. I totally agree with your view that our population, who the executive supposedly works for, has no interest in another foreign adventure with Iraq and the Global War on Terror still in recent memory.

Teddy Roosevelt said "Talk softly and carry a big stick" and we have the exact opposite now. Trump's defacto stance is combative and aggressive when everyone know he can't back up his words.

Agador Spartacus said:

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It's pretty clear at this point that Trump isn't worried about threatening / committing international war crimes.

Simply bombing civilian infrastructure is a clear and obvious war crime, and this morning he went a step further and threatened genocide against the entire Iranian civilization. ("A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again...")

Taking away the emotion of this, which is admittedly high, how far would this need to go before the 25th could potentially be invoked?

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I've seen this discussed on other sites. It is not a war crime. The U.S. Department of Defense's Law Manual, updated in July 2023, states that bridges and power plants can be legitimate targets for a military strike, provided they meet particular criteria, such as providing the enemy with a military advantage. I think it's indisputable that the bridges and power plants are providing the IRGC with military advantage.

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Trump did that? At least since obama have american presidents' threats and red lines been routinely ignored. I remember the gas and I remember Biden saying "dont."

The real issue is that we have a very squishy percentage of our population that will probably never allow us to politically win another war.

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Pretty much. Sure, others have weakened the power of the office but he deserves the vast majority of the responsibility because of the volume and intensity of his daily communication and his inability to work through traditional channels. I totally agree with your view that our population, who the executive supposedly works for, has no interest in another foreign adventure with Iraq and the Global War on Terror still in recent memory.

Teddy Roosevelt said "Talk softly and carry a big stick" and we have the exact opposite now. Trump's defacto stance is combative and aggressive when everyone know he can't back up his words.

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And Mike Tyson said everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

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KingofHazor said:

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Typical liberal: sounds intelligent at first, then you realize that they simply made up everything they wrote.

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Hah. I'm a republican - I have voted Republican almost all of my life.

I'm curious about the logistics of this since it seems to be gaining steam and Trump seems to be going downhill fast.

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Would you consider yourself more "moderate" and just very concerned about things?