Kimberly Clark Warehouse Set On Fire

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AxelFoley85
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Really surprised to see this hasn't been post yet. Disgruntled immigrant sets the place on fire.

https://abc7.com/post/employee-arrested-arson-kimberly-clark-distribition-center-destroyed-massive-fire-ontario/18851549/

https://nypost.com/2026/04/07/us-news/deranged-employee-identified-as-alleged-arsonist-behind-massive-ontario-warehouse-fire/
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Ontario man…
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Immigrants: committing crimes Canadians Americans just won't do.

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DrEvazanPhD said:

Immigrants: committing crimes Canadians just won't do.

Ontario, California.
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There was a video floating around yesterday, showing a man setting things on fire in that warehouse. But because of AI, I have no idea if it was real or not.

It looked real to my eyes at least
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panhandlefarmer said:

Ontario man…

California man...
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Saw that fire being reported yesterday. Not just the visuals but the six alarm response by firefighters caught my attention. A million plus square foot warehouse spanning ten plus blocks. Further, flames were already through the roof but in separate ends of the warehouse as opposed to natural progression. Certainly appeared to suggest arson was involved..
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No Kleenex now available to wipe away the tears of the transgender females also losing their tampon supply! A double whammy!
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The Ontario Police Department later identified the suspect as 29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim from Highland.

Terrorism? Mental illness?
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kimberly-clark-fire-suspect-said-110046505.html

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"All you had to do was pay us enough to ****ing live."

That line came from a video now circulating across every platform, allegedly filmed by 29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim as he lit packages of toilet paper on fire inside a Kimberly-Clark distribution center in Ontario, California, early Tuesday morning. By the time the sun came up, 1.2 million square feet of Kleenex, Huggies, and Cottonelle was gone. The roof had collapsed. A hundred and seventy-five firefighters had been pushed into a defensive retreat because the blaze moved too fast to fight from inside. Six alarms. Eight hours. Total loss.

Yeah, so now you've put a bunch of people out of work because you're mad. What about their livelihoods, Chamel?

Oh, but wait, it gets even dumber.

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Abdulkarim does not even work for Kimberly-Clark. He works for NFI Industries, a third-party logistics contractor that runs the warehouse on Kimberly-Clark's behalf.

What a selfish loser.
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I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.
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Labor is a product (or rather a service). If you don't like the rate you're getting for it, don't blame the customer (employer). Either find a new customer or improve your product.

"Hey you're giving me exactly our agreed-upon rate so I'm burning you down!"
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.

A facility that big with multiple fires in multiple locations could overwhelm the system with such a combustible as paper products, I guess? I'll ask The Hubs and get back.
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aggiehawg said:

Saw that fire being reported yesterday. Not just the visuals but the six alarm response by firefighters caught my attention. A million plus square foot warehouse spanning ten plus blocks. Further, flames were already through the roof but in separate ends of the warehouse as opposed to natural progression. Certainly appeared to suggest arson was involved..


I mean it's California-

does anyone even care?
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Well, now there will be a nationwide run on toilet paper. Better stock up before the word gets out.
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UTExan said:

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The Ontario Police Department later identified the suspect as 29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim from Highland.

Terrorism? Mental illness?


Should default to terrorism and then firing squad.
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UTExan said:

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The Ontario Police Department later identified the suspect as 29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim from Highland.

Terrorism? Mental illness?
Criminal illegal
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.

Okay just talked with The Hubs. He speculated it would not be a a dry chem system since chances of a water suppression system being frozen during winter would be very low being in CA.

So what would hinder a water suppression system that large with hundreds of sprinkler heads open at the same time? Pressure, meaning access to water to feed it. Mismanagement of water resources as we have seen before in CA, could have played a role, is his guess. System only works if it has water.

HTH.
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.

It would be interesting to know what the sprinkler code for this storage use in Ontario is - ESFR system, in rack system, or if they were allowed an old school sprinkler system.

Where were the rest of the employees? Was this after hours? If so, why would a disgruntled employee have access or even be retained? Looks like there's some serious risk management issues here.
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.


He set fires earlier in the day. FD responded and put them out, then disarmed the system to limit water damage. That's standard practice because the system is designed to flow indefinitely to completely saturate and put out fires and you can't just shut off individual heads.


ETA You shut off the system because individual heads don't have a cutoff, and once they're activated you can't deactivate them. They use a liquid filled glass bulb that pops at specific temperatures, depending on the application and liquid, and opens the sprinkler head. Once open, the head is going to stay open and spray until the system is shut off and it loses pressure. There are tools you can use to shut off the water flow by manually forcing the head closed, but those are typically used for individual heads and instances where one was accidentally hit. Most places aren't going to have a bunch of them laying around to plug a handful of heads after a small fire. In those instances, it's more likely you're shutting down operations and letting the fire department takeover the area, so turning off the system isn't a big deal. Someone repeatedly trying to set the building on fire isn't something that's typically planned for.
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Im assuming all the Democrats on here will contribute to his GoFundMe
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aggiehawg said:

Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.

Okay just talked with The Hubs. He speculated it would not be a a dry chem system since chances of a water suppression system being frozen during winter would be very low being in CA.

So what would hinder a water suppression system that large with hundreds of sprinkler heads open at the same time? Pressure, meaning access to water to feed it. Mismanagement of water resources as we have seen before in CA, could have played a role, is his guess. System only works if it has water.

HTH.

After the Pallisades fiasco, that was my first thought. Maybe there is another reason, but I would put good old leftist incompetence right up there in the top 3.
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Aggie Spirit said:

Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.

It would be interesting to know what the sprinkler code for this storage use in Ontario is - ESFR system, in rack system, or if they were allowed an old school sprinkler system.

Where were the rest of the employees? Was this after hours? If so, why would a disgruntled employee have access or even be retained? Looks like there's some serious risk management issues here.

Per an article i read..

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About 20 employees were inside the warehouse when the fire broke out. One person was initially missing, but was later accounted for. That missing person was the suspect, police said.

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About 20 employees were inside the warehouse when the fire broke out. One person was initially missing, but was later accounted for. That missing person was the suspect, police said.

Twenty people across a million+ square foot facility? Granted, it was the middle of the night but did those employees (presumably some night watchmen) have communications? Which type?
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Likely 24/7 ops. Trucks coming and going at all hours with forklift operators and floor supervisors to manage things. 20 people sounds about right.
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Supposedly it runs for so long until FD comes. The guy was then starting more fires to bypass.
AxelFoley85
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A lot of these facilities are now automated. I work for one of the largest distributors of goods in an adjacent field, all automated.
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.


Lack of water pressure. Send thanks to the deranged leftist governor.
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AxelFoley85 said:

A lot of these facilities are now automated. I work for one of the largest distributors of goods in an adjacent field, all automated.

How large is your average facility? Plus, are the items stored there highly combustible?
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Liberals are flammable too. Take him out into the parking lot and set his ass alight.
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Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.


Seems like it'd end in a loss either way seeing as how paper reacts poorly to both water and fire
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Who?mikejones! said:

Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.


Seems like it'd end in a loss either way seeing as how paper reacts poorly to both water and fire

Oh yeah, definitively. Fire department can roll up to a large fire and simply decide to protect other property nearby and let it burn itself out.
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AxelFoley85 said:

Supposedly it runs for so long until FD comes. The guy was then starting more fires to bypass.


It'll run until you cut the water off, you burn out the booster pump (if you have one), or you run the main dry. Once a head is opened, there's really no closing it.

Yeah, the guy set fires and the FD came and shut the system down. These systems are only meant to suppress small fires and keep them from spreading until the FD gets there, and they're designed to stay on and open until that happens or someone cuts them off. They may have shut down individual sections of the system, but even if sections of the system were shut down, he could've started a fire in one or multiple of those that could easily grow and become too much for the adjacent suppression system to stop by the time it reached it. Only the nearest heads would trigger, and at that point you have a full blown fire that they're not sized to put out. It would be like fighting a forest fire with a garden hose. The fire would easily jump the heads into the next section of warehouse and just keep going.

These systems also aren't sized to flow all or even most heads at once. You don't want that kind of deluge in a warehouse (or most settings) because then a small, localized fire creates a total loss from water damage. The system is sized and designed for containment, not putting out a giant blaze, and only a those heads that are heated enough to trigger should be going off. Deluge systems that activate every head when one is activated like in movies are actually atypical and found only in specific, high risk applications. Once this for got going, the sprinkler system was never going to stop it.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Ag87H2O said:

I wonder what happened to the building fire suppression sprinkler system? Sure seems like that would have stopped it before it got that big.


Seems like it'd end in a loss either way seeing as how paper reacts poorly to both water and fire


Not really how it works.
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Wonder if this will be a years long insurance fight in court. Don't think employee acts coverage is anywhere near what they would have for building coverage and if the deliberate act by an employee will give insurer reason to decline the property coverage? I think it would.
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