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Tucker has really pissed the boomers off by calling out Israel

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Nah. We Boomers are not monolithic.

For that matter, the left and the right, and the Dem base and the GOP base are not monolithic either. This thread topic is a perfect example of that. There is a lot of disagreement and heated debate going on inside both parties right now over AIPAC and Israel's enormous influence and political power here in the USA.

Unfortunately, in the right's justified desire to remove state and tech restrictions on speech we did away with standards and guardrails of any kind. We've apparently decided even suggesting that some things, while legal and free to say, just shouldn't be said in a civilized society is anathema. And soon we will have the same problem the left has, no limiting principles and no means by which to police our own.

Candice Owens has a right to say what she's saying (though I would argue some of what she says gets very close to the legal line for slander) but much of it is reprehensible and she absolutely should be criticized, ostracized and those who push her judged appropriately for doing so. And that applies to more than a few people on the "right" these days.

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Tucker has really pissed the boomers off by calling out Israel

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Pretty sure his "Hitler had a point" bit is the bigger issue here.

Not gonna lie, this slaps

Trump's unhinged post works better as a rap song. pic.twitter.com/2gf5pj9r2g

— TUPACABRA (@tupacabra) April 9, 2026

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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What is he right about? That is a more appropriate question.

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I appreciated very much his exposing Ted Cruz's foreign policy is influenced by a misunderstanding of the Bible, and that Ambassador Huckabee feels like Israel is justified in wanting to take over most of the Middle East, because of the same misunderstanding of the Bible

I also like his pragmatism in breaking down the issues facing America and where it seems we spend most of our energy (Ukraine and Israel)

I also like his anti institutional and anti immigration policies, and his economic/industrial policies are Buchananesque.

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Perhaps YOU have the misunderstanding of the Bible...

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So in the ongoing battle inside the U.S. rightwing, in one rightwing corner you have the Trump-Netanyahu Israel Firsters:


Ben Shapiro

Mark Levin

Dan Bongino

Kash Patel

Pam Bondi

Jesse Waters

Jared Kushner

Sean Hannity

Ted Cruz

Lindsey Graham

Pete Hegseth

Marco Rubio

Erika Kirk

Josh Hammer

Nick Freitas

CBS News head Bari Weiss

Mike Flynn

Franklin Graham

Mike Huckabee

Christian Zionist Rs

Jewish Zionist Rs

Randy Fine

Tim Pool

pro-Zionist rightwing billionaires

Tiktok CEO Adam Presser

Ron DeSantis

Scott Jennings

Dinesh D'Souza

Mike Pompeo.


And in the other rightwing corner, the Tucker-Megyn-MTG America Firsters:


Megyn Kelly

Tucker Carlson

Marge Taylor Greene

Joe Kent

Thomas Massie

The late Charlie Kirk

Dave Smith

Joe Rogan

Shawn Ryan

Michael Lester

Candace Owens

Stu Peters

Jimmy Dore

Matt Walsh

Kim Iversen

Christian non-Zionist Rs

Jewish non-Zionist Rs

John Kiriaku

Owen Schroyer

Carrie Prejean Boller

anti-Zionist rightwing billionaires

Anthony Scaramucci.

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This is a pretty disingenous way of framing the groups and lumping all of these people into corners but not surprising based on the rest of your posts in this thread.

And also in the real world, most people have no clue who 90% of the people named in that post are. Especially Dave Smith.

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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What is he right about? That is a more appropriate question.

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I appreciated very much his exposing Ted Cruz's foreign policy is influenced by a misunderstanding of the Bible, and that Ambassador Huckabee feels like Israel is justified in wanting to take over most of the Middle East, because of the same misunderstanding of the Bible

I also like his pragmatism in breaking down the issues facing America and where it seems we spend most of our energy (Ukraine and Israel)

I also like his anti institutional and anti immigration policies, and his economic/industrial policies are Buchananesque.

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Oh, so the antisemitism part of his schtick is where he is right?

Interesting take.

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Yes, I look forward to hearing how supporting Israel and Ukraine is making America great again.

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Did you think that the only things that affect America are within our borders?

I'm trying to understand your confusion...

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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sleeping with his dogs, getting scratched and deciding he was attacked by a demon in his sleep? He is definitely off the rails on that one.

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He's cut ties with the original MAGA supporters and aligned with a bunch of Never Trumpers. Interesting that we are where we are now!

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What? Just a bunch of sheep? Good lord people. Can you be any more docile farm animals?

The anti-Israel trope is a fetish. I don't get it.

I still appreciate Tucker Carlson but his podcast has become insufferable.

Give the choice between Israel as an ally or the UK, I'd pick Israel, Absolutely incredible country and leader!

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It's a fact that Carlson and the others named are 100% aligned with Bernie & Jazmine ok the Iran/Israel issue.

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BMX: That is an accurate statement, but the underlying logic in the implication you're making is specious and completely flawed. Because of your background, I presume you know that. It is irrelevant whether Bernie and Tucker arrived at a similar conclusion on an issue or are 180 degrees apart and hold opposite views on an issue. What matters is whether a conclusion or view on an issue is correct or wrong. Heck, there are many views Bernie has which are also held by Trump voters.

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With anything in life, when you look around and you see that your are aligned with people who are wrong time and time again on just about every issue there is, you should look in the mirror and say "WTF am I doing?"

If you are a BigRobeto to type or Rand Paul and just want out or the Middle East, I get it. We can agree to disagree.

But when you reach your conclusions about Iran/ Israel based on lies from leftist and terrorist regimes, then you start promoting that same propaganda, then you are no different than the Bernies and Jasmines. Lying trash that should be taken out.

I don't really care that some Trump voters also agree with Bernie Sanders. He has many populist supporters that I don't align with. What I'm talking about is conservatives or people that claim to be conservative like Carlson, Kelly, etc.

They have gone way past just disagreement. They are now actively part of a machine pushing the propaganda for Iran and other enemies of America.

You had very solid points until the end:

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If you don't understand how preventing the world's number one sponsor of terrorism from acquiring nuclear weapon weapons is America First, then not only are you blind but you have Jell-O for brains.

Trump and this policy is 1000x more "America First" than Carlson who promotes literal anti-Americans like Dugin and the CCP "professor" as people to follow on what's best for our country.

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Dude, just stop tweeting!

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Imagine thinking this is normal behavior for a leader of a nation, much less actually defending it.

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Who cares…our last President was brain dead and never spoke and when he did, you couldn't make rhyme or reason on what he said and Obama was an eloquent speaker and that spoke in platitudes and signed off on a healthcare bill that the American people are still suffering from…so I really couldn't care less about a President posts a bunch of **** on social media that gets people mad because it isn't "presidential".

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Quite a few people care, including more and more of the GOP and his voters. You know this, despite you not wanting to admit it.

We also really need to quit excusing and hand waiving Trump because of past presidents. Yeah, they sucked. The hell does that have to do with right now? How is that even an argument?

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It's not an argument. Merely a deflection

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It's a fact that Carlson and the others named are 100% aligned with Bernie & Jazmine ok the Iran/Israel issue.

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BMX: That is an accurate statement, but the underlying logic in the implication you're making is specious and completely flawed. Because of your background, I presume you know that. It is irrelevant whether Bernie and Tucker arrived at a similar conclusion on an issue or are 180 degrees apart and hold opposite views on an issue. What matters is whether a conclusion or view on an issue is correct or wrong. Heck, there are many views Bernie has which are also held by Trump voters.

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With anything in life, when you look around and you see that your are aligned with people who are wrong time and time again on just about every issue there is, you should look in the mirror and say "WTF am I doing?"

If you are a BigRobeto to type or Rand Paul and just want out or the Middle East, I get it. We can agree to disagree.

But when you reach your conclusions about Iran/ Israel based on lies from leftist and terrorist regimes, then you start promoting that same propaganda, then you are no different than the Bernies and Jasmines. Lying trash that should be taken out.

I don't really care that some Trump voters also agree with Bernie Sanders. He has many populist supporters that I don't align with. What I'm talking about is conservatives or people that claim to be conservative like Carlson, Kelly, etc.

They have gone way past just disagreement. They are now actively part of a machine pushing the propaganda for Iran and other enemies of America.

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Not everyone that doesn't support Trump is an enemy of America. Infact these days it's probably quite the opposite.

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Completely agree.

But many are.

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And all those people have changed for the worst. Much worse.


Tucker Carlson having the same feelings about dispensationalism and immigration that I do does not change that he is a loser Dugin fanboy that pushes anti-American propaganda and other garbage like capitalism being antithetical to Christianity

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Capitalist extremism is antithetical to Christianity. As Catholics we have tomes upon tomes of the dual obligations between labor and capital that flies in the face of economic theory.

Take it from soon to be St Fulton J Sheen

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He said CHRISTIANS; not catholic!

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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What is he right about? That is a more appropriate question.

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I appreciated very much his exposing Ted Cruz's foreign policy is influenced by a misunderstanding of the Bible, and that Ambassador Huckabee feels like Israel is justified in wanting to take over most of the Middle East, because of the same misunderstanding of the Bible

I also like his pragmatism in breaking down the issues facing America and where it seems we spend most of our energy (Ukraine and Israel)

I also like his anti institutional and anti immigration policies, and his economic/industrial policies are Buchananesque.

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I don't understand this "Israel wants to take over the ME" garbage. 500 million Muslims in the ME, 7 million Jews. Dozen-and-a-half countries in the ME, with Jews welcome in one of them.

Attacked by the entire region in the Six Day and Yom Kippur Wars... attacked on October 7th. Years of rocket launches and terrorist attacks.

They gave back Sinai. They withdrew from Gaza.

Where does the "taking over the ME" part come in?

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I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the Number One State Sponsor of Terror, to have a Nuclear Weapon Because they have one thing in common, Low IQs. They're stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too!

Look at their past, look at their record. They don't have what it takes, and they never did! They've all been thrown off Television, lost their Shows, and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about them, they're NUT JOBS, TROUBLEMAKERS, and will say anything necessary for some "free" and cheap publicity.

Now they think they get some "clicks" because they have Third Rate Podcasts, but nobody's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA Or I wouldn't have won the Presidential Election in a LANDSLIDE. MAGA agrees with me, and just gave CNN a 100% Approval Rating of "TRUMP," not Hand Flailing Fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish College, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist!

Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me the now famous, "Only Rosie O'Donnell," question, or "Crazy" Candace Owens, who accuses the Highly Respected First Lady of France of being a man, when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace, in fact, it's not even close!

Or Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, and lost his entire fortune, as he should have, for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.

These so-called "pundits" are LOSERS, and they always will be! Now Fake News CNN, The Failing New York Times, and all of the other Radical Left "News" Organizations, are "hailing" them, and giving them "positive" press for the first time in their lives. They're not "MAGA," they're losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA.

As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on World and Country Affairs and, after a few times, they go "nasty," just like Marjorie "Traitor" Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff, I only care about doing right for our Country.

MAGA is about WINNING and STRENGTH in not allowing Iran to have Nuclear Weapons. MAGA is about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and these people have no idea how to do that, BUT I DO, because THE UNITED STATES IS NOW THE "HOTTEST" COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!

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— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) April 9, 2026

Thank you, thank you thank you President Trump for calling out these complete losers. I don't like the term "woke right", but it's the one he used. The more appropriate term is. "Ruhtahd right".


It's bad enough we have leftist trying to destroy this country, now we have people claiming to be on the "right" doing the same.


It's time for people that love America to reject these losers and their leftist buddies. Seriously, if you put the words of these people next to the words of Bernie Sanders, or the ayatollah, you would have no idea who said what.

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I love POTUS Trump more each day.

Dude just does not give a flying F and says what is always on his mind.

love it!

the GOP has a generational opportunity to bring in more moderate independents, Jews, and those offended by the leftists drive to insanity

instead we are blowing it by allowing idiots such as Qatarlson and kelly and Nazis such as Candace to pretend to be MAGA

when they are really just grifters in social media for their own bank accounts and clout

The "usuals" are bent out of shape for calling out the grifting losers.

Tucker pretty called Trump the anti-Christ and insinuated he covered up Israeli role in the Charlie Kirk murder. Alex Jones called for Trump to be taken out via 25th Amendment.

But Trump is the one being mean to his "Friends."

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So in the ongoing battle inside the U.S. rightwing, in one rightwing corner you have the Trump-Netanyahu Israel Firsters:


Ben Shapiro

Mark Levin

Dan Bongino

Kash Patel

Pam Bondi

Jesse Waters

Jared Kushner

Sean Hannity

Ted Cruz

Lindsey Graham

Pete Hegseth

Marco Rubio

Erika Kirk

Josh Hammer

Nick Freitas

CBS News head Bari Weiss

Mike Flynn

Franklin Graham

Mike Huckabee

Christian Zionist Rs

Jewish Zionist Rs

Randy Fine

Tim Pool

pro-Zionist rightwing billionaires

Tiktok CEO Adam Presser

Ron DeSantis

Scott Jennings

Dinesh D'Souza

Mike Pompeo.


And in the other rightwing corner, the Tucker-Megyn-MTG America Firsters:


Megyn Kelly

Tucker Carlson

Marge Taylor Greene

Joe Kent

Thomas Massie

The late Charlie Kirk

Dave Smith

Joe Rogan

Shawn Ryan

Michael Lester

Candace Owens

Stu Peters

Jimmy Dore

Matt Walsh

Kim Iversen

Christian non-Zionist Rs

Jewish non-Zionist Rs

John Kiriaku

Owen Schroyer

Carrie Prejean Boller

anti-Zionist rightwing billionaires

Anthony Scaramucci.

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Any list that has Joe Rogan and Candace Owens on the same side of anything is pretty worthless.

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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What is he right about? That is a more appropriate question.

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I appreciated very much his exposing Ted Cruz's foreign policy is influenced by a misunderstanding of the Bible, and that Ambassador Huckabee feels like Israel is justified in wanting to take over most of the Middle East, because of the same misunderstanding of the Bible

I also like his pragmatism in breaking down the issues facing America and where it seems we spend most of our energy (Ukraine and Israel)

I also like his anti institutional and anti immigration policies, and his economic/industrial policies are Buchananesque.

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I don't understand this "Israel wants to take over the ME" garbage. 500 million Muslims in the ME, 7 million Jews. Dozen-and-a-half countries in the ME, with Jews welcome in one of them.

Attacked by the entire region in the Six Day and Yom Kippur Wars... attacked on October 7th. Years of rocket launches and terrorist attacks.

They gave back Sinai. They withdrew from Gaza.

Where does the "taking over the ME" part come in?

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Israel doesn't screw with people who don't screw with them. If the damn Muslims would just leave them alone they'd quit killing thousands of Muslims at a whack.

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Dude, just stop tweeting!

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Imagine thinking this is normal behavior for a leader of a nation, much less actually defending it.

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The tweets are all just a red cape to wave at lazy journalists to give them something very unimportant to complain about. Because they are going to complain about something.

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The anti-Israel trope is a fetish. I don't get it.

I still appreciate Tucker Carlson but his podcast has become insufferable.

Give the choice between Israel as an ally or the UK, I'd pick Israel, Absolutely incredible country and leader!

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If you gathered together 100 random Londoner men and 100 random Israel women and put them in a cage match, those Cockney limp wrists would all be dead in minutes.

When November comes and goes this can all be reviewed.

Barron was given praise for encouraging Trump to go on many various podcast shows in the run up to the last election. That was considered an important aspect in the win. They were not considered inconsequential before.

At this time virtually every one of those shows that were all in for him have had a complete reversal. There are many podcasters he did not name that have flipped. Joe Rogan for example spends time often stating what's being witnessed is not what Trump's supporters voted for. These shows daily are now negative on Trump's and the administration's actions.

Trump started this downward spiral when he made his ridiculous comments sitting next to Bondi telling people basically if they were still interested in JE they were morons and he didn't need them.

When he is attacking the "crazy" podcasters he's also attacking their audiences. Most of these audiences were his actual voters!

As pointed out previously he has aligned himself in many ways more with the never Trump crowd now than with some of what was his loyal base.

What are those that he is ridiculing now saying that he doesn't like? Mostly the things he and or his administration campaigned on!

These are opportunistic people that see a losing hand, deep down DJT respects this because he does it.

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Unfortunately, in the right's justified desire to remove state and tech restrictions on speech we did away with standards and guardrails of any kind. We've apparently decided even suggesting that some things, while legal and free to say, just shouldn't be said in a civilized society is anathema. And soon we will have the same problem the left has, no limiting principles and no means by which to police our own.

Candice Owens has a right to say what she's saying (though I would argue some of what she says gets very close to the legal line for slander) but much of it is reprehensible and she absolutely should be criticized, ostracized and those who push her judged appropriately for doing so. And that applies to more than a few people on the "right" these days.

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The tweets are all just a red cape to wave at lazy journalists to give them something very unimportant to complain about. Because they are going to complain about something.

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I'm thinking by the amount of support Trump got for his post by many of his maga, the post may have also been intended, like many of his posts are, to assure his die-never maga, that they are good and right to support him, and the people he criticized are ones to shun, even if not-too-long-ago, they were as maga as any maga.

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So four more people Trump has fallen out with. Examples 9782, 9783, 9784, & 9785.

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Each one of these is falling out with Trump to align with Jasmin Crockett and Bernie sanders. Quite the accomplishment.

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I just have to ask, what particular discipline of mental gymnastics have you used to arrive at that conclusion? It's amazing the things you have to talk yourself into to continually support everything Trump does.

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You are full of it. I criticize Trump plenty. He even been told by people here I have TDS

It's a fact that Carlson and the others named are 100% aligned with Bernie & Jazmine ok the Iran/Israel issue. I amount of spin from your ilk can change that.

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It's also a fact that Trump's supporters were calling Lindsey Graham a Neocon 2 months ago, and now they're 100% aligned with Graham on the Iran/Israel issue.

These same people touted "no new wars" as an accomplishment of Trump's for a decade. But now they're telling us we have to support the No New Wars President as he conducts a new war we don't want.

We aren't getting mass deportations or a border wall, but Israel is getting the war it has wanted for 40 years. Trump is not America First. Anybody who can't see that is blind as a bat.

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Who knew "draining the swamp" meant cozying up to Lindsey Graham and "no new wars" meant "let's spend tens of billions bombing the sh/t out of the Middle East." Definitely not a cult.

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If we come home in the next 3 weeks or so, I would say that Trump is living up to the "No New Wars" thing.

We were going to go to war against Iran regardless. Once Israel decided to attack Iran, Iran was going to start launching missiles at US targets. Just one of those hits a good US target, like a military base or an embassy, and we are gong to go to war with Iran.

I really liked what he did in Venezuela.

Shutting down USAID was a huge step forward in draining the swamp. But, if he doesn't do something about entitlement fraud, it would be a huge waste of an opportunity.

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Tucker is actual maga. The rest of the people on that list are tards.

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Tucker isn't MAGA anymore. I don't even know what Tucker is. The guy's gone off the rails even not regarding Trump. I mean his choice to do so but the dude has gotten really weird.

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What has he gone off the rails about

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What is he right about? That is a more appropriate question.

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I appreciated very much his exposing Ted Cruz's foreign policy is influenced by a misunderstanding of the Bible, and that Ambassador Huckabee feels like Israel is justified in wanting to take over most of the Middle East, because of the same misunderstanding of the Bible

I also like his pragmatism in breaking down the issues facing America and where it seems we spend most of our energy (Ukraine and Israel)

I also like his anti institutional and anti immigration policies, and his economic/industrial policies are Buchananesque.

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I don't understand this "Israel wants to take over the ME" garbage. 500 million Muslims in the ME, 7 million Jews. Dozen-and-a-half countries in the ME, with Jews welcome in one of them.

Attacked by the entire region in the Six Day and Yom Kippur Wars... attacked on October 7th. Years of rocket launches and terrorist attacks.

They gave back Sinai. They withdrew from Gaza.

Where does the "taking over the ME" part come in?

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I think you misunderstood my reference, The Old Testament cites Israel as a land mass that extends between two geographical points, these points currently contain many different countries. When asked in an interview, Ambassador Huckabee said he would be fine with it if Israel took over all that land.