Trump v "woke right". Time to choose a side

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Queso1 said:

Yes. Pwning libs and the media doesn't fix our schools or our cities. But I really don't think our current trump sycophants care about that.

It's entertaining, and gives the media something to do.

They are going to complain about SOMETHING. Might as well make it stupid crap so that Trump and team can focus on other things.

Holeman is doing absolute magnificent work right now, we just don't hear about it in the MSM because they are too busy goaltending for.....checks notes.......far right-wing podcasters that hate Jews.
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BMX Bandit said:

I agree with a lot of what you were saying. But the truth remains that people like the Owens & Carlson are in fact, pushing and promoting lies about Trump, America & Israel. You can't distinguish on many occasions their words from the words of the Iranian or Hamas PR team.

The problem with a lot of this is that people like Candace and Tucker and Ian Carroll are getting lumped in with people who have much more intelligent disagreements with Trump on this issue. Tucker has these weird relationships with Russia and Qatar, and his defense of Islam the other day was strange, to say the least. Something is definitely off there. Candace and Ian Carroll are and always have been very stupid people who should have a following approaching zero.

There are several other people out there, including Alex Jones (I don't listen to Kelly, so can't speak to her mindset), who can issue a much more rational and coherent explanation of their opposition to war in Iran and Trump's domestic policies. You can listen to Alex Jones' show and have a firm understanding of his position and why he holds it. He's quite good at communicating this.

So yes, it is possible for me to be on the same side of this issue as Bernie, Crockett, Tucker, and Candace, and have issues with all of those people, both morally and intellectually. I am not sure why that is hard to understand.
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Trump campaigned on peace, lowering prices, and mass deportations.

Peace?
- Maduro is acceptable.
- Ukraine/Russia....still waiting.
- Iran, or greater Israel. Bad.

Prices?
- Gas, worse than Biden bad.
- Food, bad.
- Housing, still terrible.
(So much for the Golden Age of America)

Mass Deportations?
- ICE claims 540k gone, its been 15 months, so 36k/m, not great
- DHS claims 2.5m have self deported, that is of the 30m illegals, combined with ICE, that is a 10% decrease. Not exactly "mass" deportations.

This is a perfect storm to lose the House to the Democrats and spend the 2nd half of his administration to a dozen impeachment hearings...
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TRM said:

Im Gipper said:

The "usuals" are bent out of shape for calling out the grifting losers.

Tucker pretty called Trump the anti-Christ and insinuated he covered up Israeli role in the Charlie Kirk murder. Alex Jones called for Trump to be taken out via 25th Amendment.

But Trump is the one being mean to his "Friends."

Not grifting at all



That's going to be a hot seller
Im Gipper
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Here is a great example of what BMX Banditthat is talking about:




Rather than just talk about how we should not be fighting this war and how Israel had too much influencer over our government, Ole Tuck decided that running cover for Hezbollah is the way to go.

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Im Gipper said:

Here is a great examle of what BMX Banditthat is talking about:




Rather than pjust talk about how we should not be fighting this war and how Israel had too much influencer over our government, Ole Tuck decided that running cover for Hezbollah is the way to go.

Pretty bold claim soyjackoby makes when israel does this:

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2025-07/israel-west-bank-jewish-settlers-christians-palestinians-war.html

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5476663/a-wave-of-israeli-settler-attacks-reaches-a-christian-village-in-the-west-bank

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/25/christmas-under-occupation-israeli-attacks-against-palestinian-christians

https://zenit.org/2026/02/12/jewish-settlers-attack-the-only-entirely-christian-village-in-the-holy-land-once-again-according-to-the-catholic-parish-priest-himself/

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/research-reports/articles/stories/israel-church-set-on-fire-by-jewish-extremists/

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-destroyed-christian-presence-in-gaza-palestinian-church-affairs-committee/3701804
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Im Gipper said:

Here is a great example of what BMX Banditthat is talking about:




Rather than just talk about how we should not be fighting this war and how Israel had too much influencer over our government, Ole Tuck decided that running cover for Hezbollah is the way to go.

Hezbollah has protected Christian communities though, they also gave them free healthcare during COVID, they even strangely enough deliver Christmas trees.

This isn't because Hezbollah likes Christians, it's just politically expedient given the large Christian minority in Lebanon, and the fact that several Christian communities are on the border with Israel and Syria.
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Anyone who sides with Hezbollah is an enemy of Christians, Jews, and anyone who isn't Muslim. Heck, they're enemies of many Muslims as well.

Call yourself whatever you want, but if you side with Hezbollah, then you're "the baddie".
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It turns out that audiences in Russia and Pakistan can't vote in Republican primaries.





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TheBonifaceOption said:

Trump campaigned on peace, lowering prices, and mass deportations.

Peace?
- Maduro is acceptable. Kinda the way that Michael Jordan is an acceptable basketball player.
- Ukraine/Russia....still waiting. Trump hasn't really dug us in any deeper here, and Europe is mobalizing. Getting Europe to invest in military is an absolute huge win for the US.
- Iran, or greater Israel. Bad. So far, we have a temporary increase in gas prices. That's it. Not so bad.

Prices?
- Gas, worse than Biden bad. If Kamala was in charge, gas prices would be worse than they are now.
- Food, bad. We need to stop printing money. Bad Trump.
- Housing, still terrible. We need to stop printing money. Bad Trump.


Mass Deportations?
- ICE claims 540k gone, its been 15 months, so 36k/m, not great
- DHS claims 2.5m have self deported, that is of the 30m illegals, combined with ICE, that is a 10% decrease. Not exactly "mass" deportations.

This is delusional. We should be doing more, but, when Trump was getting kicked in the teeth for MN, he didn't balk for a second. It's funny that a month a go Trump was getting lambasted by the left for being inhumane about deportations, and now he isn't doing enough of them. So typical of ThinkBlue.

This is a perfect storm to lose the House to the Democrats and spend the 2nd half of his administration to a dozen impeachment hearings...

I guess we will see. This thing with Iran could be over before summer even starts.

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It's funny that a month a go Trump was getting lambasted by the left for being inhumane about deportations, and now he isn't doing enough of them. So typical of ThinkBlue.


LOL

No one on the left is lambasting Trump for not doing enough immigration

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Im Gipper said:

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It's funny that a month a go Trump was getting lambasted by the left for being inhumane about deportations, and now he isn't doing enough of them. So typical of ThinkBlue.


LOL

No one on the left is lambasting Trump for not doing enough immigration

I'm confused. That's not what I said.

I said that the recent talking point is that Trump isn't doing enough deportations. That is absolutely a unified position being parroted now by lots of "concerned moderates". It is surprising.
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You are very confused.

The LEFT was attaching Trump for his deportations.

Boniface is NOT the left.

Act Blue sure as hell ain't mad at Trump now for not doing enough!

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BMX Bandit said:

I agree with a lot of what you were saying. But the truth remains that people like the Owens & Carlson are in fact, pushing and promoting lies about Trump, America & Israel. You can't distinguish on many occasions their words from the words of the Iranian or Hamas PR team.
You might be correct. I was mostly just pointing out a logical fallacy.

I almost never listen to crazy Candace's show.

Depending on the guest, I'll listen to Tucker's podcast maybe once per week. I disagree with Tucker 85%-to-90% of the time. Tucker was a pro-Putin pro-Russia guy, and perhaps he still is. I never understood that. And it is true Tucker pushes numerous lies and insane conspiracy narratives. But when he has a good guest, Tucker can be interesting and intellectually thought provoking. Steve Bannon is another pro-Russia pro-Putin pro-Trump guy who is corrupt, dishonest, and evil to the core -- yet like Tucker, Bannon can be intellectually intelligent, well read, and interesting depending on the show's guest.

I can't say that about Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, Glen Beck, Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity, Jesse Waters, Megyn Kelly, Benny Johnson, Jack Posobiec, and many other mindnumbing rightwing partisan liars, daily outrage purveyors, and one-trick pony propagandists.

Regarding Iran, I hope we decide to exit soon. If we're not going to do a land war / boots on the ground / militarily-forced regime change / nation-building project, then there is no point in staying in the vicinity much longer, afaik. We have thumped the mullah - IRG regime hard. Much, much harder, more punitively, and more severely than they ever thought the "be nice and kind to everyone" post-WW2 U.S.A. would ever proactively and preemptively do. If this experience doesn't cause the regime to change their thinking and Iran's direction, nothing will.
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For some people who vote Republican, Israel has become a litmus test for whether or not someone is conservative.

I can't understand it. Many of us on the far right embrace every conservative position, yet don't like Israel so we're leftists.
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Severian the Torturer said:

For some people who vote Republican, Israel has become a litmus test for whether or not someone is conservative.

I can't understand it. Many of us on the far right embrace every conservative position, yet don't like Israel so we're leftists.

Yep, the right has been completely captured by dispensationalists and Israel-firsters. Any objection to being pro-Israel means you want the Pope to be president or something else dumb.
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New MAGA, swamp creature, Lindsey Graham!
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No new wars. Trump has kept his promise. If one thinks this war with Iran is new then they have either been asleep the last 47 years or were born yesterday.

Affordability. Gas prices up for a while as Trump cleans up this war with Iran that The Swamp negligently handled for decades. After the driving season oil will be back to $70 or less. Bottom line, inflation rate has come down from the previous 4 years. Side note: heard a report that rents in Central Texas have come down 12%.That's a product of eliminating some demand for housing (deportations). Key food prices have dropped like chicken and eggs. It will take awhile for beef since the demwits were serious about eliminating cow farts.

Mass deportations. Someone noted above that approximately 10% of illegals have been deported or self-deported. I'll buy that percentage. That's actually pretty good considering that far left citizens behave as obstacles to law enforcement, Lefty politicians use every means possible to create hysteria among the useful idiots along with defunding agencies charged with protecting our borders and deportations. On top of that you have judges slowing the process.

Trade deficit and American manufacturing. Trump has created a positive environment for industry to return to the US. We should definitely see the trade deficit shrink considering the fact we were giving away the farm for decades.

These are big jobs. They just don't "clean up" in a year.

The slowest progress has been in holding those accountable for the criminal activities that advanced the hoaxes on the American people and used lawfare on their political enemies and those that supported their enemies. My theory is most prosecutors in the DOJ are reluctant to do their job. The fear of being on "The List" when dems regain power is real.

Trump is doing a great job.
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BMX: I haven't been consuming much news content from traditional news org websites the past two months, so this morning I did a google search on "aipac", "divides", and "maga". Turns out there is quite a lot of mainstream news reporting about the rancorous divide and ongoing contentious debates occurring inside both of the major party orgs and inside the voter bases of both parties.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=aipac+influence+divides+maga#sbfbu=1&pi=aipac%20influence%20divides%20maga
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Pass me a hit of whatever you're smoking. Delusional
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Zachary Klement said:


New MAGA, swamp creature, Lindsey Graham!


The guy who ran for president saying he was going "to expel the war mongers from Washington". The guy that was going to drain the swamp is now fine helping to fill it. Maybe Laura Loomer is going to join the cabinet soon to lead new maga.
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I choose America First. I have no idea what maga even is anymore. Lindsey Graham and Mark Levin? Nah I am good. I was sick of that 10 years ago
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Daily Caller what are you doing?
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LMCane said:

BMX Bandit said:

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I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the Number One State Sponsor of Terror, to have a Nuclear Weapon Because they have one thing in common, Low IQs. They're stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too!

Look at their past, look at their record. They don't have what it takes, and they never did! They've all been thrown off Television, lost their Shows, and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about them, they're NUT JOBS, TROUBLEMAKERS, and will say anything necessary for some "free" and cheap publicity.

Now they think they get some "clicks" because they have Third Rate Podcasts, but nobody's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA Or I wouldn't have won the Presidential Election in a LANDSLIDE. MAGA agrees with me, and just gave CNN a 100% Approval Rating of "TRUMP," not Hand Flailing Fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish College, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist!

Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me the now famous, "Only Rosie O'Donnell," question, or "Crazy" Candace Owens, who accuses the Highly Respected First Lady of France of being a man, when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace, in fact, it's not even close!

Or Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, and lost his entire fortune, as he should have, for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.

These so-called "pundits" are LOSERS, and they always will be! Now Fake News CNN, The Failing New York Times, and all of the other Radical Left "News" Organizations, are "hailing" them, and giving them "positive" press for the first time in their lives. They're not "MAGA," they're losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA.

As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on World and Country Affairs and, after a few times, they go "nasty," just like Marjorie "Traitor" Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff, I only care about doing right for our Country.

MAGA is about WINNING and STRENGTH in not allowing Iran to have Nuclear Weapons. MAGA is about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and these people have no idea how to do that, BUT I DO, because THE UNITED STATES IS NOW THE "HOTTEST" COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!





Thank you, thank you thank you President Trump for calling out these complete losers. I don't like the term "woke right", but it's the one he used. The more appropriate term is. "Ruhtahd right".


It's bad enough we have leftist trying to destroy this country, now we have people claiming to be on the "right" doing the same.


It's time for people that love America to reject these losers and their leftist buddies. Seriously, if you put the words of these people next to the words of Bernie Sanders, or the ayatollah, you would have no idea who said what.


I love POTUS Trump more each day.

Dude just does not give a flying F and says what is always on his mind.

love it!

the GOP has a generational opportunity to bring in more moderate independents, Jews, and those offended by the leftists drive to insanity

instead we are blowing it by allowing idiots such as Qatarlson and kelly and Nazis such as Candace to pretend to be MAGA

when they are really just grifters in social media for their own bank accounts and clout

The GOP brought them all in that's how they won in 24 the greatest coalition in political history for sure the most diverse. Jan 6th lawfare impeached twice.. almost killed all the bad things that happen against Trump and he still won the popular vote. Seemed like lots of people preferred his message of no new wars mass deportations getting prices back down for working folks and that big thing Epstein. Then Trump does a 180 joins a war for Israel the tough alpha male Trump couldn't control Bibi? It makes normal people wonder. It's just strange right? Even if you support this war I would hope you can see why people question it.

It amazes me that people I agree with 99% of the time can't see any of this.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

LMCane said:

BMX Bandit said:

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I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the Number One State Sponsor of Terror, to have a Nuclear Weapon Because they have one thing in common, Low IQs. They're stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too!

Look at their past, look at their record. They don't have what it takes, and they never did! They've all been thrown off Television, lost their Shows, and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about them, they're NUT JOBS, TROUBLEMAKERS, and will say anything necessary for some "free" and cheap publicity.

Now they think they get some "clicks" because they have Third Rate Podcasts, but nobody's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA Or I wouldn't have won the Presidential Election in a LANDSLIDE. MAGA agrees with me, and just gave CNN a 100% Approval Rating of "TRUMP," not Hand Flailing Fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish College, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist!

Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me the now famous, "Only Rosie O'Donnell," question, or "Crazy" Candace Owens, who accuses the Highly Respected First Lady of France of being a man, when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace, in fact, it's not even close!

Or Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, and lost his entire fortune, as he should have, for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.

These so-called "pundits" are LOSERS, and they always will be! Now Fake News CNN, The Failing New York Times, and all of the other Radical Left "News" Organizations, are "hailing" them, and giving them "positive" press for the first time in their lives. They're not "MAGA," they're losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA.

As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on World and Country Affairs and, after a few times, they go "nasty," just like Marjorie "Traitor" Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff, I only care about doing right for our Country.

MAGA is about WINNING and STRENGTH in not allowing Iran to have Nuclear Weapons. MAGA is about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and these people have no idea how to do that, BUT I DO, because THE UNITED STATES IS NOW THE "HOTTEST" COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!





Thank you, thank you thank you President Trump for calling out these complete losers. I don't like the term "woke right", but it's the one he used. The more appropriate term is. "Ruhtahd right".


It's bad enough we have leftist trying to destroy this country, now we have people claiming to be on the "right" doing the same.


It's time for people that love America to reject these losers and their leftist buddies. Seriously, if you put the words of these people next to the words of Bernie Sanders, or the ayatollah, you would have no idea who said what.


I love POTUS Trump more each day.

Dude just does not give a flying F and says what is always on his mind.

love it!

the GOP has a generational opportunity to bring in more moderate independents, Jews, and those offended by the leftists drive to insanity

instead we are blowing it by allowing idiots such as Qatarlson and kelly and Nazis such as Candace to pretend to be MAGA

when they are really just grifters in social media for their own bank accounts and clout

The GOP brought them all in that's how they won in 24 the greatest coalition in political history for sure the most diverse. Jan 6th lawfare impeached twice.. almost killed all the bad things that happen against Trump and he still won the popular vote. Seemed like lots of people preferred his message of no new wars mass deportations getting prices back down for working folks and that big thing Epstein. Then Trump does a 180 joins a war for Israel the tough alpha male Trump couldn't control Bibi? It makes normal people wonder. It's just strange right? Even if you support this war I would hope you can see why people question it.

It amazes me that people I agree with 99% of the time can't see any of this.

Maybe they're not the problem here.
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Trump IS the woke right. He's married to a former communist lesbian sex worker. How much more woke can someone get?
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Easiest choice ever. I'll take what the goofballs call the Woke Right. Trump is a waste of space.
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polksalet12345 said:

Trump IS the woke right. He's married to a former communist lesbian sex worker. How much more woke can someone get?

Your first post in almost 3 years and this is the tripe you came up with?
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TheBonifaceOption said:

Trump campaigned on peace, lowering prices, and mass deportations.

Peace?
- Maduro is acceptable.
- Ukraine/Russia....still waiting.
- Iran, or greater Israel. Bad.

Prices?
- Gas, worse than Biden bad.
- Food, bad.
- Housing, still terrible.
(So much for the Golden Age of America)

Mass Deportations?
- ICE claims 540k gone, its been 15 months, so 36k/m, not great
- DHS claims 2.5m have self deported, that is of the 30m illegals, combined with ICE, that is a 10% decrease. Not exactly "mass" deportations.

This is a perfect storm to lose the House to the Democrats and spend the 2nd half of his administration to a dozen impeachment hearings...

JFC...3 million illegals have left in 15 months and you're disappointed? WTF did you think would happen? It's not like all of those people are just sitting around in one group waiting to be picked up. They have to ****ing find them first...

How many other Presidents have come even REMOTELY close to that many deportations? And that doesn't even count the fact that the border crossings have gone down to almost ZERO - hell, a ****ing wall wouldn't be that good.

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81% of our people think we need to be at war with Iran to make sure their people are safe???? We truly do not deserve to exist as a country anymore.
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They were murdering thousands of protesters a couple months ago
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And that means we have to be at war with them?

As a logical principle, how many civilians need to die before American troops need to be at risk of dying?
 
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