Death penalty or life without parole?

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Life in prison as a child abuser would be a worse punishment than the death penalty, IMO.

It will be hell psychologically. Constant torment and isolation.
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Ugh. I made the mistake of looking at the picture of Athena in the back while this POS was driving. As the dad of a 7 year old daughter who, in black and white, looks just like her build-wise, it really ****ed me up

I will never comprehend how people can possibly hurt children.
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Go medieval. Hang. Draw. Quarter.
You're from down South,
And when you open your mouth,
You always seem to put your foot there.
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[Q] A former FedEx driver accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old girl from her Texas home and then killing her reportedly told investigators he would confess if he were granted a month of freedom to spend with his family.[/Q]

Why would his family even want to spend even one second with that monster. How could anyone think he should be allowed to ever see his son again.
Rapier108
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Death is the only appropriate penalty.

Even Jesus said what should happen to people who harm children.
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Hell is literally hell.
deddog
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A better way to phrase the OP is - should Demons be allowed to live in prison? Or executed immediately?
FrioAg 00
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Hearing this scum whine in the video about missing out on all his son's xmas, birthdays, etc, is hard to take.

You killed this little girl you ****. She doesn't get any of those things because if you!

Then the balls to offer a guilty pleas for a month of freedom?? Does she get to be alive again for another month so she can say goodbye to her family?

It's up to God to judge his eternal soul, not me. But I'd sure hate to be in his shoes when they meet.
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He wants a month? That little girl didn't get a minute.
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Execution.
Zachary Klement
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Touche!
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FrioAg 00 said:

Hearing this scum whine in the video about missing out on all his son's xmas, birthdays, etc, is hard to take.

You killed this little girl you ****. She doesn't get any of those things because if you!

Then the balls to offer a guilty pleas for a month of freedom?? Does she get to be alive again for another month so she can say goodbye to her family?

It's up to God to judge his eternal soul, not me. But I'd sure hate to be in his shoes when they meet.

Psychopaths frequently see themselves as the victim. You have to be pretty !#@! in the head to kill a little child, especially one outside the womb.
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If I was that Dad they couldn't keep me away from getting my own justice
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The trial -- punishment phase to be exact since he plead guilty -- has been going on for almost 10 days. The better question is why is this just now coming up 3.5 years after the incident and his arrest? I understand they thought they'd have to go to trial but a year/year and a half should have been sufficient to prepare.

Trial is being held in Fort Worth. I attended a small part of a Wise county murder trial a couple of years ago that was being held in Jack County. That guy was going to get life no matter what (and did).
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BadMoonRisin said:

I will never comprehend how people can possibly hurt children.


All I can figure is some people choose evil. Those need to be removed from this life. God will handle special treatment far more effectively than us humans could. We just need to expedite that meeting.
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There was an audio recording of the murder played to the jury. I've heard descriptions of what it was but I won't repeat it here.

There's no way a jury is going to hear that and find anything other than for the death penalty.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

There was an audio recording of the murder played to the jury. I've heard descriptions of what it was but I won't repeat it here.

There's no way a jury is going to hear that and find anything other than for the death penalty.

Tore.me.up. She wanted her mommy.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Rapier108 said:

Death is the only appropriate penalty.

Even Jesus said what should happen to people who harm children.

That's not what he was saying. Anytime I see people say this, I know they have actually never read the passage. He was talking about false prophets and others leading children and/or new believers to sin or be led astray.

Also, life in gen pop is one of the worst penalties you can give for a crime like this. His likelihood of surviving long is not very good.
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Tree Hugger said:

He wants a month? That little girl didn't get a minute.

If he gets death, waves all appeals, and is executed 30 days later; it's worth the month of him sitting behind bars. Much better than letting him sit there for 15-30 years.
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If he plead guilty, I would put him to death, since there is no question that he did it.
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Rapier108 said:

Tree Hugger said:

He wants a month? That little girl didn't get a minute.

If he gets death, waves all appeals, and is executed 30 days later; it's worth the month of him sitting behind bars. Much better than letting him sit there for 15-30 years.

I'm all for it. I just don't trust "the system" or the lawyers within it to make this happen.
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Lathspell said:

Rapier108 said:

Death is the only appropriate penalty.

Even Jesus said what should happen to people who harm children.

That's not what he was saying. Anytime I see people say this, I know they have actually never read the passage. He was talking about false prophets and others leading children and/or new believers to sin or be led astray.

Also, life in gen pop is one of the worst penalties you can give for a crime like this. His likelihood of surviving long is not very good.

But it ain't zero.

There is nothing more evil than the cold-blooded taking of innocent life because you enjoy it.

Innocent life incapable of defending itself.

That's a demon. You kill it.
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B-1 83 said:

ErnestEndeavor said:

There was an audio recording of the murder played to the jury. I've heard descriptions of what it was but I won't repeat it here.

There's no way a jury is going to hear that and find anything other than for the death penalty.

Tore.me.up. She wanted her mommy.


And her poor mother. The piece of **** was delivering a barbie doll set that she ordered for Athena's Christmas gift, so she blames herself.
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Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. - Adam Smith
FrioAg 00
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Dad blamed himself for not protecting her, hid in the bottle and lost his marriage over it too.

The pain this animal started has so many ripples still
annie88
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The image of her in the truck is what gets me.

This is really hard to read and see.

I hope this guy is abused and killed in prison, but short that he better die and he better die soon.

I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
DG-Ag
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Hadn't heard of this story before now. What absolute human garbage. And the absolute gall of this guy to beg for time with his family? He deserves many bad things done to him before he dies. Put him in gen-pop for a while before they kill him. I've heard those guys have a special place in their hearts for people who these types of things to kids.
You're from down South,
And when you open your mouth,
You always seem to put your foot there.
bonfarr
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The dirtbag actually asked the cops if they would promise him 30 days of freedom before getting locked up to spend with his son if he confessed after he deprived that little girl's parents of another second on Earth with their child. I can only imagine what the detectives wanted to do to him when he asked for that.
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be taken at face value.
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FrioAg 00
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Once there is a guilty plea, I see no reason he wasn't killed that hour. He admitted it.

We ought to pass a law that gives 60 days following a conviction to expedite the appeals process. There is no legit appeal that should take longer than that.
Keyno
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This is one issue where I struggle with my Catholic faith. A part of me wants to bring back the public "hanged, drawn, and quartered" execution for criminals like this. But of course that brings up a litany of moral and ethical dilemmas. And probably violates the 8th Amendment. IDK, maybe a firing squad
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FrioAg 00 said:

Once there is a guilty plea, I see no reason he wasn't killed that hour. He admitted it.

We ought to pass a law that gives 60 days following a conviction to expedite the appeals process. There is no legit appeal that should take longer than that.

Not a lawyer - how can you appeal if you plead guilty?
You're from down South,
And when you open your mouth,
You always seem to put your foot there.
annie88
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When I first saw the b/w image of her in the truck behind him, I swear, I thought he looked like Dax Prescott.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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