To your point, I've had the opportunity to be in a few strange places and see a few things that not many others have seen over the years.

And once something gets in the popular media and becomes accepted as common knowledge, it is very difficult to convince anyone that possibly something different might have happened.

A couple quick examples.

I've been intimately involved with a few cyber attack events from 1999 until now. What really happened, how big the impact was, and what got reported were all completely different things.

9/11 was mentioned and one thing that people don't believe is that in 2001, United Airlines would be flying nearly empty 767s around the country.

There used to be an 8pm 767 flight from SFO-DEN. That was my favorite flight home to Denver after I'd been working in The Bay. One time in 2001, I took that flight with only 11 passengers on the aircraft.

But, United couldn't cancel the flight because they needed the aircraft in Denver the next morning.

Nevermind living through 3 years of Los Angeles Covid.

And if you really want to see how fake a lot of news is, look no further than a live broadcast from the parking lot of the Clear Lake Hilton during a hurricane.

I was not expecting the latest conspiracy theory to involve the Book of Leviticus.

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You're not wrong and exactly why I believe that war in our country is simply unavoidable at this point.

The commie wing of the democrats runs the party and has massive amount of foreign influence and funding. Undeniable. They don't even try to hide it. They hate the country, rob it blind with corruption, and don't ever deny it anymore.

The old democrat party is dead and the new democrat party is at war with America.

We've allowed 4+ decades of massive immigration, legal and illegal, to pour in, from mostly the third world. This is the outcome.

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There is no commie wing of the democrat party. That party doesn't exist anymore, based on its actions in opposition to the Constitution and the American people. It should be labeled the communist party in the future. Anyone who considers himself/herself a democrat should realize the things they believe in have long since ceased to be demonstrated by that party.

Yeah, that's a dumb thing for people to believe on the flights. It's a repositioning flight and happens all the time. It happens today. SWA used to run near empty planes all the damn time just to get planes in the right spot for originating flights the next day.

My 80 yr old uncle travels the world by himself, and very cheaply, on near empty cruise ships that do this today.

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You're not wrong and exactly why I believe that war in our country is simply unavoidable at this point.

The commie wing of the democrats runs the party and has massive amount of foreign influence and funding. Undeniable. They don't even try to hide it. They hate the country, rob it blind with corruption, and don't ever deny it anymore.

The old democrat party is dead and the new democrat party is at war with America.

We've allowed 4+ decades of massive immigration, legal and illegal, to pour in, from mostly the third world. This is the outcome.

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There is no commie wing of the democrat party. That party doesn't exist anymore, based on its actions in opposition to the Constitution and the American people. It should be labeled the communist party in the future. Anyone who considers himself/herself a democrat should realize the things they believe in have long since ceased to be demonstrated by that party.

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For the record, DSA = Communist. They've already made the first step towards it by moving on from the Democrat brand. They are just quite smart enough to know that using the full Communist moniker is still a bit too early, but they are there.

Look at any polling of the Democrat party and all of them under a certain age are communists. That's the future of the party. Schumer and a few others are lame duck leaders and will be gone soon. They've moved as far left as they can and will now be purged.

Some of the talking points I've seen on this started with the Kent Carlson interview. They took Kent saying it should have been investigated more which it should have to him saying it was staged. The discussion never said that and he never alluded to it. Someone who ever controls these things have turned it into that.

Im not pro Trump but I know it wasn't stage. You can't play with guns like that. That behive sound can't be faked. The best of plans can't have live rounds near Trump. A narrative that's being push and eaten by people to cover up the real cover up. Like most things with our government we will never know why or any more details.

No, it wasn't staged. Believe me, if they staged it they would have done so at the same place they staged the fake moon landings decades ago.

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There are foreign agitators with interests aligned with our left and the small but extremely on line radical conspiracist right that push a. Lot of yhis on social mefia. AI driven bot armies of foreign intelligence services like Russia, China, Iran, and possibly others ick up these narratives that are potentially harmful to the Trump administration or helpful to administration opposition and both spread them and give them an artificial inflated following so they get promoted by sicial media algorithms. That is why the more into social media politics you are, the more you see this stuff. It really is a propaganda campaign targeted at maximizing the exposure of any anti administration element on the left and pushing those narratives over to the left as well as reinforcing them with the conspiracist right.

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In general, I agree with your statement.

Where I disagree is that they are not aligned with the left or right. There is just as much disinformation when there is a Democrat President, it just goes unnoticed on this board as it more aligned with the more conservative sentiment of this board.

The goal of foreign operatives using bots for disinformation is to sow distrust in American institutions. If you live in the social media sphere, it appears to be working. But if you go out and talk with rank and file Americans, we're all pretty much the same, believe in the same things, and want what's best for America and what drama happens in DC doesn't really affect our day to day lives.

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Has MTG subscribed to Flat Earth Theory yet?

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she's moved on to the Rectangular Earth theory

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HAH!

You guys believe in EARTH???

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It only looked staged. And the handling of the shooter and investigation was bizarre, and its dismissal, and the lack of will to further look into it is odd. But we can fully trust that it was organic, spontaneous and not staged.
conspiracy theorists w their tinfoil hats, need to get a life. they refuse to believe the settled science. Fight fight fight everybody.

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The craziest thing to me is the fanciful idea that the Secret Service was "in on" a scheme to make Trump look like some sort of destined figure who cheated death in order to gain supreme power. That's the argument, right?

The same Secret Service who at the time was under the control of the Biden Administration. So Biden must have been in on it, too.

Or maybe, just maybe, the lack of will to look further into it stemmed from the fact that the folks who would have been looking into it were actually NOT fans of Trump in the first place.

MTG is a little late to the party. Candace and Tucker pretty much cornered the nutbaggery market.

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The same Secret Service who at the time was under the control of the Biden Administration. So Biden must have been in on it, too.

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The secret service hated Biden. They wanted Trump back in the White House.

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There are foreign agitators with interests aligned with our left and the small but extremely on line radical conspiracist right that push a. Lot of yhis on social mefia. AI driven bot armies of foreign intelligence services like Russia, China, Iran, and possibly others ick up these narratives that are potentially harmful to the Trump administration or helpful to administration opposition and both spread them and give them an artificial inflated following so they get promoted by sicial media algorithms. That is why the more into social media politics you are, the more you see this stuff. It really is a propaganda campaign targeted at maximizing the exposure of any anti administration element on the left and pushing those narratives over to the left as well as reinforcing them with the conspiracist right.

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In general, I agree with your statement.

Where I disagree is that they are not aligned with the left or right. There is just as much disinformation when there is a Democrat President, it just goes unnoticed on this board as it more aligned with the more conservative sentiment of this board.

The goal of foreign operatives using bots for disinformation is to sow distrust in American institutions. If you live in the social media sphere, it appears to be working. But if you go out and talk with rank and file Americans, we're all pretty much the same, believe in the same things, and want what's best for America and what drama happens in DC doesn't really affect our day to day lives.

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I would agree. RIGHT NoW, with the Republicans in power, they are aligned against the Republicans to maximize the effects of their interference efforts and create the most effect from internal divisions, but make no mistake, most foreign agents some the Democrats as easier to manipulate and closer ideological allies to globalist manipulation efforts that direct American resources and power towards foreign coffers and interests.

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Who is Margorie?

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It's a new butter alternative. Doesn't taste like butter and has an extra helping of microplastics.

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The entire premise is absurd. These kooks are absurd.

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Yep. And they are just a subset of the tens of millions of duped Americans who believe the 2020 election was stolen and many other lies and rightwing conspiracy fantasies.

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The entire premise is absurd. These kooks are absurd.

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Yep. And they are just a subset of the tens of millions of duped Americans who believe the 2020 election was stolen and many other lies and rightwing conspiracy fantasies.

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Are you talking about Donald Trump?

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Was the Butler assassination attempt staged?

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No.

And to even think that is more proof that socialized education is a failure.

What does the 2020 election have to do with Trump being shot in Butler? Are you on the wrong thread?

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That's some crazy talk but Trump's ear looks good as new.

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Hey, if you can find a video of the Butler Rally you will see in Trumps right hand one of those small ketchup packets from Mickey D's just before the shot.

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The one thing that EVERY conspiracy theory can never explain...

The sheer number of people that would have to be "in" on it, the motivation to come clean, and the one thing that governments throughout history are 100% incapable of doing... Keeping a damn secret

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Sorry, but this often repeated mantra is totally false. In non-conspiratorial terms, there are a LOT of secrets being kept -- spouses who haven't been totally forthcoming about who they've slept with, parents who don't know who their kids have hung out with/done at school/etc., things that go on at companies between managers/employees and partners, and a ****-ton of other stuff.

You wouldn't believe the amount of financial and criminal stuff spouses (or people dating/living together) and partners, to name two specific relationships, don't know about each other. Trust me: when they want to keep a secret, they do. To their grave.

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Seems like there may be perhaps a tiny bit of difference between these examples and a secret plot to fake an assassination attempt.

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Staged? Probably not

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Buckley is the brother of Tucker. Not his son

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No, he's his son. And he just resigned from the VP's office.

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He has a brother & son named Buckley.


The one in the OP is the brother

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Apologies.

Yet a ton of dumbarse people continue to give them what they want…..clicks. Some of us never learn.

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Staged? Probably not

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I mean, highly likely not. My point was that there wasn't much investigation done and people have questions that are still unanswered today, either way.

It was kind of ignored that the alleged shooter was in a Blackrock marketing material. That seems like an odd coinkadink.

Lunacy. The sheer # of people that would have to be involved to stage something like that makes it absolutely impossible. These are the same people that believe the govt. staged / was involved in 9/11.

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Staged? Probably not

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I mean, highly likely not. My point was that there wasn't much investigation done and people have questions that are still unanswered today, either way.

It was kind of ignored that the alleged shooter was in a Blackrock marketing material. That seems like an odd coinkadink.

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There are people that still have "questions about the JFK assassination...


Doesn't make them valid questions...

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The entire premise is absurd. These kooks are absurd.

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Yep. And they are just a subset of the tens of millions of duped Americans who believe the 2020 election was stolen and many other lies and rightwing conspiracy fantasies.

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This poster unironically believes in Russian Collusion.

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Do you believe the bipartisan United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence investigation co-chaired by Marco Rubio, and the Robert Mueller investigation, and the John Durham investigation, and the DOJ IG's investigation, and the original FBI investigation into collusion were a giant conspiracy to get Trump? I don't.

The investigations into Russian collusion, hacking, and election concluded one of Trump's campaign managers, Paul Manafort and Manafort's assistant Rick Gates, met with and gave polling and campaign data multiple times to Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intelligence asset. Gates testified under oath they met and gave polling and campaign research data to Kilimnik. Manafort owed money to Oleg Deripaska.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Kilimnik

Yes, the root cause was a conspiracy. And it isn't questionable at all.

Anyone doubting that is loonier than a moon landing denier by far.

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Of course not, but that's the latest from the Fake America First crowd!

This garbage is being pushed by Marjorie Taylor Greene (always dumb) and Tucker Carlson's goober son!


EDIT: This is the drunken brother Buckely, not the goober Son Buckley.

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Now, I want you to look critically at this photo. They allowed President Trump to stand up, exposing multiple potential kill shots, as the flag is gently lowered. Interesting that the other SS agents lower their heads as the perfectly time ICONIC photo is taken. Honestly, it couldn't have been scripted better if were to have been done in a studio.

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Extremely important post worth the read and consideration.
Corey Comperatore’s family deserves to know the truth about Matthew Crooks and what happened in Butler on July 13, 2024.
President Trump, of all people, should be leading the charge.
Why isn’t he?
That’s the question. https://t.co/kTpoRHYsYZ

— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) April 18, 2026

Remember when you thought 911 was as presented? (I did, for a long time).
Now consider what you endured during Covid, Election 2020, J6 Fedsurrection, Epstein (even just the sickening partial reveal), Charlie, and Iran-for-Israel. NOW, will you say the below is crazy? Doubt it.… https://t.co/nxjcArp4RH

— Buckley Carlson (@buckleycarlson) April 18, 2026

Seriously, what is wrong with these people? It's more than a grift. They are deranged!

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There are Aggie's with engineering degrees on this board who think the towers and 7 World Trade Center came down with explosives.

Welp, your credibility is shot as if it wasn't already. Lol.

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Im Gipper said:

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Of course not, but that's the latest from the Fake America First crowd!

This garbage is being pushed by Marjorie Taylor Greene (always dumb) and Tucker Carlson's goober son!


EDIT: This is the drunken brother Buckely, not the goober Son Buckley.

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Now, I want you to look critically at this photo. They allowed President Trump to stand up, exposing multiple potential kill shots, as the flag is gently lowered. Interesting that the other SS agents lower their heads as the perfectly time ICONIC photo is taken. Honestly, it couldn't have been scripted better if were to have been done in a studio.

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Extremely important post worth the read and consideration.
Corey Comperatore’s family deserves to know the truth about Matthew Crooks and what happened in Butler on July 13, 2024.
President Trump, of all people, should be leading the charge.
Why isn’t he?
That’s the question. https://t.co/kTpoRHYsYZ

— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) April 18, 2026

Remember when you thought 911 was as presented? (I did, for a long time).
Now consider what you endured during Covid, Election 2020, J6 Fedsurrection, Epstein (even just the sickening partial reveal), Charlie, and Iran-for-Israel. NOW, will you say the below is crazy? Doubt it.… https://t.co/nxjcArp4RH

— Buckley Carlson (@buckleycarlson) April 18, 2026

Seriously, what is wrong with these people? It's more than a grift. They are deranged!

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There are Aggie's with engineering degrees on this board who think the towers and 7 World Trade Center came down with explosives.

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LOL. That is foolish behavior.

DeschutesAg said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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The entire premise is absurd. These kooks are absurd.

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Yep. And they are just a subset of the tens of millions of duped Americans who believe the 2020 election was stolen and many other lies and rightwing conspiracy fantasies.

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How about the entire DNC, leftist MSM, and almost all Democrats that gaslit and covered up Biden's dementia and told the rest of us that he was totally fine? Until you couldn't contain the lie anymore. You know, the "right wing" conspiracy that was actually true.