Remember when we'd chuckle at protestors holding up signs that said "Queers for Palestine" and note that if you were in Palestine and held up that sign they'd throw you off a roof, and they probably would.

Yet the most prominent muslim political leaders in the US (all dems) seem to be in complete lockstep with the most socially liberally agendas. Trans mania, abortion, and radical feminism. You know, the kind of positions that if you publicly supported would get you thrown off a roof in most of the Islamic world. Mamdani, Omar, Tlaib, etc, they are all down with aborting babies, gender affirming care for kids, and the purple haired pissed off crowd.

Note I said "changing" and not "moderating" because they are not moderating when you consider they are as brazen now as ever in their hate for Jews, Christians, western culture, and capitalism, while openly supporting terrorist regimes and loving them some communism.

What are we seeing here? On one hand, muslim political leaders here seem more radicalized than ever in supporting pro-commie, anti-western, agendas. At the same time, they are supporting positions that are fiercely rejected by Islam globally (abortion, LGBT, radical feminism). Is it a smokescreen, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Or something else?

Genuinely interested in other's opinions.

WBBQ74 said:

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Useful idiots, political marriage of temporary convenience. Looking for that 50.01% majority vote, which will be the last one held. This is a war of survival. Our side has not realized it yet.

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Maybe not. The first several replies (typed basically at the same time) show that many are catching on.

Rapier108 said:

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Nope, they're just using the Democrats to gain power.

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This is what you're seeing. They're using the more progressive strain of the "left" to both garner support under false pretenses and elevate what they know are culturally destructive ideas/positions to undermine and fracture broader US culture.

Urban Ag said:

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Remember when we'd chuckle at protestors holding up signs that said "Queers for Palestine" and note that if you were in Palestine and held up that sign they'd throw you off a roof, and they probably would.

Yet the most prominent muslim political leaders in the US (all dems) seem to be in complete lockstep with the most socially liberally agendas. Trans mania, abortion, and radical feminism. You know, the kind of positions that if you publicly supported would get you thrown off a roof in most of the Islamic world. Mamdani, Omar, Tlaib, etc, they are all down with aborting babies, gender affirming care for kids, and the purple haired pissed off crowd.

Note I said "changing" and not "moderating" because they are not moderating when you consider they are as brazen now as ever in their hate for Jews, Christians, western culture, and capitalism, while openly supporting terrorist regimes and loving them some communism.

What are we seeing here? On one hand, muslim political leaders here seem more radicalized than ever in supporting pro-commie, anti-western, agendas. At the same time, they are supporting positions that are fiercely rejected by Islam globally (abortion, LGBT, radical feminism). Is it a smokescreen, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Or something else?

Genuinely interested in other's opinions.

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There are Muslim scholars that believe the original ancient Arabic texts have been incorrectly translated for nefarious purposes. That said, the Islamic Terrorist leaders believe it is accepted practice to lie for their perverse cause.
Deception, Lying and Taqiyya

• Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other... unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences" or "gain the upper-hand over an enemy.

Quote:

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Leaving Islam often leads to severe targeting, including discrimination, ostracization, and threats of violence, with some apostates even facing danger of death from extremist perspectives. Those who leave are frequently forced to keep their decision secret to avoid intense backlash from family and community

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You can be Muslim and not believe Muslim. The point is you can never leave Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

They are getting way better at defrauding the US taxpayers, that is for sure.

It's not changing, as mentioned, they are using a naive party to help facilitate their rise to power. Then they will pivot and crush the same idiots that helped them.

Rapier108 said:

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Nope, they're just using the Democrats to gain power.

If they ever got power, they'd kill the Democrats as quickly as they'd kill anyone else who refused to submit.

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Dead on accurate!!

You need an education on Communism.

Communists ALWAYS use these revolutionary idiots to push their agenda and overthrow the current form of government. They then execute, imprison, or otherwise get rid of those idiots, after they gain control.

This is exactly what happened in China. Revolutionaries are of no use to Communists, after they take over.

Uh, haven't you heard? REAL Communism has never been tried!

It's like someone recently pointed out to me....

You can get along great with that Muslim coworker from Saudi, but the second you tried to greet said coworker in public on the streets of Saudi they'd act like they don't know you. Make no mistake, at its roots Islam does not like us, does not want to fraternize with us, abhors everything about Western Civilization. When there's one or two of them, they'll say what needs to be said. But once they get the numbers the masks come off.

Lathspell said:

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You need an education on Communism.

Communists ALWAYS use these revolutionary idiots to push their agenda and overthrow the current form of government. They then execute, imprison, or otherwise get rid of those idiots, after they gain control.

This is exactly what happened in China. Revolutionaries are of no use to Communists, after they take over.

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Meh............I can give you countless examples of the revolutionary and the commie being one in the same.

When the Bolsheviks took over Russia, they didn't kill all the commies. They were the commies.

Castro was the revolutionary and he stayed in power to the day he died.

Che helped him and they didn't kill him off either. He spread communism all over South America until the CIA finally caught up to him in 67.

All commies have useful idiots, but the commies are the revolutionaries. Right now, the useful idiots are mostly white liberals and mostly white female liberals.

Regardless, my point in the whole thread is how long will the fundy's suffer ultra left wing social positions to advance their agenda. Islam is not going to take over America. No way. The Latin American community alone is all the reason why. They aren't converting. I'd rather see the country flooded by third world parasites from south of the border than by Islam.

There has the be a point where the Imams reign this in, once they see the muslim youth leaving in droves for white liberal policy and narratives, completely at odds with their teachings. There has to be a critical mass somewhere.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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It's a story as old as Islam. Muslims only preach tolerance in a country until they have the numbers to establish sharia. There's a reason that Taqqiya exists.

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This is the correct explanation.

It's the same thing that LGBT started doing back in the 90s...do anything and everything to normalize it in our culture until the more extreme ideas can be introduced and in time normalized.

In the 80s the only Trans was Dr Frankenfurter and today we have drag shows for children. If we don't draw the line now, in 40 years, I hate to think about it.

What is the saying about letting the camel's nose get under the tent? Turning the temperature up on boiling the frog?

Draw. The. Line.

Urban Ag said:

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Remember when we'd chuckle at protestors holding up signs that said "Queers for Palestine" and note that if you were in Palestine and held up that sign they'd throw you off a roof, and they probably would.

Yet the most prominent muslim political leaders in the US (all dems) seem to be in complete lockstep with the most socially liberally agendas. Trans mania, abortion, and radical feminism. You know, the kind of positions that if you publicly supported would get you thrown off a roof in most of the Islamic world. Mamdani, Omar, Tlaib, etc, they are all down with aborting babies, gender affirming care for kids, and the purple haired pissed off crowd.

Note I said "changing" and not "moderating" because they are not moderating when you consider they are as brazen now as ever in their hate for Jews, Christians, western culture, and capitalism, while openly supporting terrorist regimes and loving them some communism.

What are we seeing here? On one hand, muslim political leaders here seem more radicalized than ever in supporting pro-commie, anti-western, agendas. At the same time, they are supporting positions that are fiercely rejected by Islam globally (abortion, LGBT, radical feminism). Is it a smokescreen, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Or something else?

Genuinely interested in other's opinions.

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Red green alliance, op, look it up.

Urban Ag said:

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Remember when we'd chuckle at protestors holding up signs that said "Queers for Palestine" and note that if you were in Palestine and held up that sign they'd throw you off a roof, and they probably would.

Yet the most prominent muslim political leaders in the US (all dems) seem to be in complete lockstep with the most socially liberally agendas. Trans mania, abortion, and radical feminism. You know, the kind of positions that if you publicly supported would get you thrown off a roof in most of the Islamic world. Mamdani, Omar, Tlaib, etc, they are all down with aborting babies, gender affirming care for kids, and the purple haired pissed off crowd.

Note I said "changing" and not "moderating" because they are not moderating when you consider they are as brazen now as ever in their hate for Jews, Christians, western culture, and capitalism, while openly supporting terrorist regimes and loving them some communism.

What are we seeing here? On one hand, muslim political leaders here seem more radicalized than ever in supporting pro-commie, anti-western, agendas. At the same time, they are supporting positions that are fiercely rejected by Islam globally (abortion, LGBT, radical feminism). Is it a smokescreen, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Or something else?

Genuinely interested in other's opinions.

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Don't be fooled.
Remember for Islam, the end goal is Islam takeover of the world.

They will lie cheat, morph into anything to meet their goals. Western logic does not work with Islamic thought.

PS: Islam is NOT changing. Islam has been the same hateful war manual for 1400 years. Only people are waking up now, though slowly and very late.

LOL. I am neither ignorant nor fooled by what Islam is nor what Islam is trying to spread/impose.

It's just not going to work in the western hemisphere. They can't import enough of them to make it happen. Again, Latin America is not converting. Nor is white white conservative America. Nor Asians. Not happening.

But I remain a bit perplexed by just how far left (socially) the prominent democrat Muslims in elected office have gone. There has to be a tipping point. When is the local Iman going to attend a pride parade?

Islam is a poison to humanity.

It is that simple.

Again, it's being used. I'll give you the broader point that the states are too diverse for Islam to dominate demographically but all that is needed is to saturate clusters; like NY. Just takes a little patience and they could theoretically take political power in those areas. Then start stacking influence. Wait it out and then you have real power, politically.

Islamist/jihadist are gaining a foothold in America. NYC, MICH., MINN., NJ. Their objective is to destroy America. Listen to their Iman's.

Islam has not changed. They have always supported the LGBTQVDP agenda- for non muslims. They have always advocated for abortion- for non muslims. Because these practices are destructive.

Explained briefly here:

They're paid protestors who take whatever sign they're given and chant whatever chant they're told to chant.

Urban Ag said:

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LOL. I am neither ignorant nor fooled by what Islam is nor what Islam is trying to spread/impose.

It's just not going to work in the western hemisphere. They can't import enough of them to make it happen. Again, Latin America is not converting. Nor is white white conservative America. Nor Asians. Not happening.

But I remain a bit perplexed by just how far left (socially) the prominent democrat Muslims in elected office have gone. There has to be a tipping point. When is the local Iman going to attend a pride parade?

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It's worked in Europe. They are bending over to Islam.
There are enough people here in the US who will bend over to Islam as well.

Even right now we are bending over to foreign immigrants and saying we need people, we cannot do it ourselves. We will invent reasons to bring in boatloads of Muslims as well.

All someone has to do is wave money in front of our noses and we will capitulate.