Maybe, but not because of this issue.

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Put his foot in his mouth? Shouldn't we expect him to tell the truth about his beliefs because that's what he is doing. I'd rather have Vivek saying he's believes differently than I do and owning up to it and knowingly vote for him than have Talarico say that he shares my faith tradition but he is right about it and I am wrong in my practice of it.

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Then go full Hindu, not some weird Coexist blend of Hinduism and Christianity.

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There's a Ray Wylie Hubbard song lyric in there somewhere, but I can't quite recall.

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Some get spiritual because they see the light, and others because the feel the heat.

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Sounds Mormon, and we had one of those run against Obama.

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I recall that one not turning out too great for the Republicans.

Yet another tweet where the headline is blatantly inflammatory and misleading.

Watch the actual clip if you want context. Vivek answered a direct question extremely well.

So Vivek vs Talarico. Who you got?

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We should always be concerned with the values of elected politicians. Do you not think their religions beliefs contribute to how they govern? If so, then you are not paying attention.

Vivek is gonna lose so bad lol. I'd say the GOP is hilariously incompetent, but they're doing it on purpose.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Whatever. I'm not concerned with his personal religious beliefs. Can he govern competently

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We should always be concerned with the values of elected politicians. Do you not think their religions beliefs contribute to how they govern? If so, then you are not paying attention.

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If they govern how I like, which is why I would vote for them, then no. I am not concerned. Seems pretty simple to me.

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Can he govern competently

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No. He has openly said he thinks Americans are inferior and need to be replaced

A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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Put his foot in his mouth? Shouldn't we expect him to tell the truth about his beliefs because that's what he is doing. I'd rather have Vivek saying he's believes differently than I do and owning up to it and knowingly vote for him than have Talarico say that he shares my faith tradition but he is right about it and I am wrong in my practice of it.

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Then go full Hindu, not some weird Coexist blend of Hinduism and Christianity.

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You either let cows sit in the road and block traffic or you eat them.

I don't see how those two ideas can coexist.

I think I'm heading over to Helberg in Speegleville for lunch and reminisce about all those times I had to wait for a cow to move out of the street so I could get to work in Bangalore.

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Texags level ignorance on display yet again.

Hinduism has many good things about it. It, like Christianity, I a religion of peace and love. I'm not Hindu, but I'd much rather have a devout Hindu neighbor than a Muslim, or some Christians for that matter.

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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God does not negotiate.

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I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

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Yeah, but in large enough numbers, many of them just chip away at our culture and sense of unity. Like if you import enough, it changes things. They have taken over certain areas in and around Houston and voted to ban fireworks, except for on indian holidays, in some cases.

If they all assimilated and truly loved and appreciated this country, I'd have zero problems. But too many are here to grift off of us (and no more). Hopefully their children assimilate and become Americanized.

Honestly...F this BS...dafuq is Diwali???

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Diwali fireworks are now legally permitted in unincorporated Harris and Fort Bend counties due to Texas HB 608, allowing sales five days before through midnight on the last day of Diwali. This applies to unincorporated areas only; fireworks are strictly prohibited within the City of Houston. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Key details:

• Diwali Authorization: Harris and Fort Bend counties approved special fireworks sales for Diwali, acknowledging its importance to the Indian community.
• Location Restrictions: Fireworks are illegal within Houston city limits. They are permitted in unincorporated county areas (e.g., Katy, Cypress, Spring).
• Burn Bans: Even if a general burn ban is in effect, Diwali fireworks are often specifically permitted, though sometimes limited to smaller fireworks.

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Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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Considering that he is a Hindu, then his comments reflect his beliefs. Christian voters can appreciate a religion that is older than Christianity and are not so shallow as to cast him aside because they disagree with his belief.

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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Can you educate us on Ravana?

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Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but Jesus is not THE son of god. Jesus is A way to heaven but not THE way to heaven. pic.twitter.com/WoXXLrI6Kd

— Lysander (@UnderCoercion) May 1, 2026

Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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I know that Vivek is a very smart guy. However, being a brown and non-Christian, he has a certain disadvantage in America because some parts are very racist and very religion-obsessed, and some parts just want a good administrator who think America-first.

Vivek also runs the risk of being smeared because of him being of Indian origin and a Hindu. He needs to read the room about H1B and STFU about it or address people's concerns. He did not say that Americans are dumb or anything like that but he got smeared by his opponents who grabbed the chance to twist his words.

He should also not be talking about Jesus or Christianity as he cannot win the discussion or argument. He will always lose, even if he is right. So better to stay away and say a generic "you have your beliefs, and I have mine. Let's respect each other's beliefs, that is the American way". But him being an intellectual, he gets into discussions not realizing this would be used against him.

In summary, VR needs to learn when to not open his gob.

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I disagree...see Dinesh D'Souza...been beloved by the Christian right for decades. See also Bobby Jindal...TWO term governor of LOUISIANA.

These are fully assimilated Christian men who don't brag about how "lost" and "hapless" America would be without being flooded with Indians. Beloved by millions of rural and urban white Christian conservatives.

Vivek comes across as cocky...he needs to be thanking this country and it's people for letting him in and acknowledging how inferior and maybe even horrific life would have been for him if he stayed in his country of origin...not talking about how we NEED people like him because he is brown and from a country where people still don't have modernized water and sewage and still poop in fields.

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Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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Considering that he is a Hindu, then his comments reflect his beliefs. Christian voters can appreciate a religion that is older than Christianity and are not so shallow as to cast him aside because they disagree with his belief.

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Imagine how Islamic societies would view him for saying Muhammad is just one prophet but there are many ways to get your 72 virgins. Christianity teaches that Jesus is THE way....like that is directly from his mouth. He'd be stoned to death or incarcerated for saying such about Muhammad, but here he just has to experience online criticism.

Surely you can see how it rubs people the wrong way and comes across as hollow pandering. Again though...i have less of a problem with his religious beliefs and more of a problem with his cockiness and sense of racial superiority...that Indians are the best and will save America. No, they are just the most desperate and driven for the time being because they come from such horrific conditions compared to ours and now feel like they have the opportunity of a lifetime...THANKS TO VASTLY SUPERIOR WESTERN CULTURE AND SYSTEMS OF GOVERNANCE. Their offspring will eventually regress to the mean.

Being Indian does not make you superior.

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doubledog said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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Considering that he is a Hindu, then his comments reflect his beliefs. Christian voters can appreciate a religion that is older than Christianity and are not so shallow as to cast him aside because they disagree with his belief.

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Imagine how Islamic societies would view him for saying Muhammad is just one prophet but there are many ways to get your 72 virgins. Christianity teaches that Jesus is THE way....like that is directly from his mouth.

So surely you can see how it rubs people the wrong way and comes across as hollow pandering. Again though...i have less of a problem with his religious beliefs and more of a problem with his cockiness and sense of racial superiority...that Indians are the best and will save America. No, they are just the most desperate and driven for the time being because they come from such horrific conditions compared to ours and now feel like they have the keys to the kingdom. Their offspring will eventually regress to the mean.

Being Indian does not make you superior.

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Christians are not Muslims, Jesus showed us a better path.

This thread began on how Christians should view Hindus on their beliefs. The OP did not mention anything about personality or cockiness.

All things being equal we should not prefer a Hindu or anyone who denies Jesus' divinity to a Christian. Hindu social structures are not exactly conducive to things like subsidiarity in Christian social doctrine.

In the big picture, the fact that a Hindu is a viable candidate at all in a place like Ohio is concerning. That's not to say he's not the best available option. But that is not a good thing overall.

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That's weird a Hindu guy doesn't believe Jesus is God!


What should he have said?

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John 14:6

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

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Jesus says (according to Christian scripture): My way is the only way and there is no other way
Muhammad says (according to Islamic scripture): My way is the only way and there is no other way

Logic tells me at least one of these two are wrong. Maybe both.
What is the truth? There can only be one truth. People don't like to hear it and have been fighting and killing over it for centuries.

This is why I dislike organized religion where the goal is to get more followers. It's now a business were love and compassion have gone out of the window. All bad human flaws still show up.

This whole discussion of the right way and if there is only one right way is dumb. No one really knows and everyone is just guessing based on childhood or adult brainwashing.

Summary: People should use their own brain that God (if you believe) gave them.

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The Mormons are the correct answer

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cecil77 said:

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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God does not negotiate.

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Tell that to Abraham

I would not vote for a non-Christian candidate although I did make an exception for Donald Trump.

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I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

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Yeah, but in large enough numbers, many of them just chip away at our culture and sense of unity. Like if you import enough, it changes things. They have taken over certain areas in and around Houston and voted to ban fireworks, except for on indian holidays, in some cases.

If they all assimilated and truly loved and appreciated this country, I'd have zero problems. But too many are here to grift off of us (and no more). Hopefully their children assimilate and become Americanized.

Honestly...F this BS...dafuq is Diwali???

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Diwali fireworks are now legally permitted in unincorporated Harris and Fort Bend counties due to Texas HB 608, allowing sales five days before through midnight on the last day of Diwali. This applies to unincorporated areas only; fireworks are strictly prohibited within the City of Houston. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Key details:

• Diwali Authorization: Harris and Fort Bend counties approved special fireworks sales for Diwali, acknowledging its importance to the Indian community.
• Location Restrictions: Fireworks are illegal within Houston city limits. They are permitted in unincorporated county areas (e.g., Katy, Cypress, Spring).
• Burn Bans: Even if a general burn ban is in effect, Diwali fireworks are often specifically permitted, though sometimes limited to smaller fireworks.

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I went the New Territory fireworks show a couple years ago. For the 4th of July. Which is not a Hindu Holliday, it turns out.

You are either ignorant or deliberately misleading.

This is not news.

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Posting more in the context that Vivek will probably win the Ohio Primary and put his foot in his mouth by saying this, I don't believe this statement does anything but hurt his case for Christian voters.

***God should be capitalized in the title, my fault for copying the quote from the tweet

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Considering that he is a Hindu, then his comments reflect his beliefs. Christian voters can appreciate a religion that is older than Christianity and are not so shallow as to cast him aside because they disagree with his belief.

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Imagine how Islamic societies would view him for saying Muhammad is just one prophet but there are many ways to get your 72 virgins. Christianity teaches that Jesus is THE way....like that is directly from his mouth.

So surely you can see how it rubs people the wrong way and comes across as hollow pandering. Again though...i have less of a problem with his religious beliefs and more of a problem with his cockiness and sense of racial superiority...that Indians are the best and will save America. No, they are just the most desperate and driven for the time being because they come from such horrific conditions compared to ours and now feel like they have the keys to the kingdom. Their offspring will eventually regress to the mean.

Being Indian does not make you superior.

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Christians are not Muslims, Jesus showed us a better path.

This thread began on how Christians should view Hindus on their beliefs. The OP did not mention anything about personality or cockiness.

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I know, I am just sick of hearing how Christians should feel when being pandered to by a man who says "Jesus is one of the ways". A lot of Christians would have a big problem with Trump saying this. How are people surprised that American Christians take issue with this statement?

Everyone always b*tching about how supposedly "intolerant" we are./ My main point was, compare our reaction to Muslims...or other weird primitive peoples/societies.

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I've never worried about a Hindu walking into a shopping mall near me with an explosive vest strapped to his chest. Until that happens, being a Hindu isn't a disqualifier.

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Yeah, but in large enough numbers, many of them just chip away at our culture and sense of unity. Like if you import enough, it changes things. They have taken over certain areas in and around Houston and voted to ban fireworks, except for on indian holidays, in some cases.

If they all assimilated and truly loved and appreciated this country, I'd have zero problems. But too many are here to grift off of us (and no more). Hopefully their children assimilate and become Americanized.

Honestly...F this BS...dafuq is Diwali???

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Diwali fireworks are now legally permitted in unincorporated Harris and Fort Bend counties due to Texas HB 608, allowing sales five days before through midnight on the last day of Diwali. This applies to unincorporated areas only; fireworks are strictly prohibited within the City of Houston. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Key details:

• Diwali Authorization: Harris and Fort Bend counties approved special fireworks sales for Diwali, acknowledging its importance to the Indian community.
• Location Restrictions: Fireworks are illegal within Houston city limits. They are permitted in unincorporated county areas (e.g., Katy, Cypress, Spring).
• Burn Bans: Even if a general burn ban is in effect, Diwali fireworks are often specifically permitted, though sometimes limited to smaller fireworks.

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I went the New Territory fireworks show a couple years ago. For the 4th of July. Which is not a Hindu Holliday, it turns out.

You are either ignorant or deliberately misleading.

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My bad, I thought I had heard from Fort Bend or Frisco residents on a past thread that they had been prohibited for certain traditional holidays, but allaowed for Diwali. But still...why the F are we accommodating this? This isn't India. What about other cultures and their weird "holidays"?

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Texas House Bill 608 (88th Legislature, 2023) was signed into law and became effective on September 1, 2023. It relates specifically to the sale of fireworks before and during the Diwali holiday. [1, 2]
Key Provisions of HB 608 (2023):

• Retail Sale Expansion: The bill authorizes a county commissioners court to allow retail fireworks permit holders to sell fireworks to the public for the Diwali holiday season.
• Timeline: The approved sales period begins five days before the first day of Diwali and ends at midnight on the last day of Diwali.
• Drought Monitoring: The act requires the Texas A&M Forest Service to make its services available to determine if dangerous drought conditions exist in a county during the specified Diwali fireworks season, similar to other authorized fireworks seasons (such as the 4th of July or December).
• Local Authority: County commissioners must decide whether to prohibit or restrict these fireworks, based on drought conditions, no later than 15 days before the start of the Diwali period. [1]

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Dude, I also heard he was a SEE EEE OOOH once! Which we both know is an immediate disqualifier.

I like when a group of immoral people think this is going to make me support them.

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A foreign demon worshipper lecturing Americans about our Lord. And this is the GOP's governor candidate.

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That's pretty ignorant. Study Hinduism.

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Tell that to Abraham

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But he wagers... ask Job

You do understand that fireworks had already been authorized for other things?

Drive around Fort Bend county on the 4th sometime. Or Christmas. Or New Years.

In unincorporated Fort Bend County, fireworks are generally legal to use year-round on personal property, but sales are limited to specific seasons, including July 4th (June 24July 4), New Year's (Dec 20Jan 1), and specific Diwali dates. Users must follow safety restrictions (e.g., 100ft+ from flammable, 600ft+ from schools/churches) and check for county-imposed burn bans.Key Legal Constraints:Location: Only in unincorporated areas of Fort Bend County. It is generally illegal to use fireworks within most city limits (e.g., Sugar Land, Missouri City).Property: You must use them on your own property or have permission from the property owner.Exceptions: County officials can ban certain aerial fireworks if the drought index (Keetch-Byram Drought Index) is high.Common Area Restrictions: HOA rules may strictly prohibit fireworks, even if they are legal in the county.Safety Zone: Keep 100 feet from fireworks stands and 600 feet from schools, churches, and hospitals.

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Ah I see, well, I'm glad he's being honest.

I just weight that higher than a candidate's ability to thread a rhetorical needle to avoid losing hypothetical identity politics votes.

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Well I guess we'll have to see how voters respond to this on election day. I was under the impression that saying Jesus Christ is not the way to heaven might annoy some Christians here.

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Want to be upfront: I'm a Christian and I believe Jesus is the only way to the Father. That's settled for me. So this isn't me arguing Vivek is right about Jesus. He isn't.

But I can't square the idea that a Hindu candidate honestly stating Hindu beliefs is a political self-own he should have avoided. Scripture doesn't model a religious litmus test for civil authority. Isaiah 45, God calls Cyrus, a Persian polytheist, his "anointed," explicitly saying "though you do not acknowledge me." In Jeremiah 27 He calls Nebuchadnezzar "my servant."

Daniel served under both without requiring either to convert first.

Romans 13 frames the magistrate's job as restraining evil and rewarding good, not confessing Christ.

The thing that bothers me about the "he hurt himself with Christian voters" framing is that the implicit fix is for Vivek to fudge his beliefs for votes.

That would make Christianity into a tribal badge a candidate wears to be electable, exactly the kind of "Lord, Lord" profession Jesus warned about in Matthew 7:21. I'd rather have an honest Hindu than a strategic Christian, and I think that's actually the more biblical posture.

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You either let cows sit in the road and block traffic or you eat them.

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Texags level ignorance on display yet again.

Hinduism has many good things about it. It, like Christianity, I a religion of peace and love. I'm not Hindu, but I'd much rather have a devout Hindu neighbor than a Muslim, or some Christians for that matter.

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Spent a lot of time in the subcontinent have you?

Could you riddle me the difference between say Karnataka and Goa?

For your troubles I'll tell you how many times I saw my Saudi neighbors with goats tied up outside their houses (gross if you ask me - but, at least they weren't blocking traffic).