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Ag_of_08 said:

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Make the loans, like every other business loan, dischargeable in bankruptcy.... you wouldnt need to pass a single other piece of legislation or reform, it would all self right itself in about 3 yrs

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Won't happen because if you let the market decide, you would never get a student loan for most liberal arts. Gender studies majors would disappear. And the college professors would be unemployed.
If the majors disappear from college, why teach them in schools?
if you don't teach them in schools, where are you going to indoctrinate kids to vote for the Democrat party?

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That is exactly the point. Stop using government loan backing as a funding mechanism for left wing indoctrination centers. If you take away the government backing for the loans and allow the loans to be dischargeable in bankruptcy, certain majors are going to disappear entirely because there is no way they will ever pay well enough to justify a loan to get one. The rest of the college experience will get cheaper as well because the lenders are not going to let their loans go to pay for bloated bureaucratic fees that do nothing to enhance the value of the education. Schools that don't do a good job getting their graduates hired will have to improve or lenders are going to be reluctant to give students loans to go there. It is literally a one stop solution that fixes most of what is wrong with higher education right now.

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They cut 49 majors but only 900 students were affected?

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Yes, but think of all the administrators with cushy jobs that they didn't have to do much of anything that are impacted!

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Tabasco said:

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Wildmen03 said:

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Tabasco said:

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Wildmen03 said:

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They cut 49 majors but only 900 students were affected?

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You can say that again!

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I swear I posted it once, then went back and the post was gone. So I reposted my comment. It's weird.

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LOL just messing with you. The 12-minute delta between the exact same posts was unique, so I felt the need to comment. I was picturing you worried about your memory, so you google Alzheimer's in your browser, and most of the hyperlinks were purple.

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I still only see one? Now I'm intrigued.

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Just to settle the mystery. Taken just now.

Ag_of_08 said:

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Make the loans, like every other business loan, dischargeable in bankruptcy.... you wouldnt need to pass a single other piece of legislation or reform, it would all self right itself in about 3 yrs

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They aren't business loans because you can't collateralize an education

deddog said:

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Ag_of_08 said:

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Make the loans, like every other business loan, dischargeable in bankruptcy.... you wouldnt need to pass a single other piece of legislation or reform, it would all self right itself in about 3 yrs

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Won't happen because if you let the market decide, you would never get a student loan for most liberal arts. Gender studies majors would disappear. And the college professors would be unemployed.
If the majors disappear from college, why teach them in schools?
if you don't teach them in schools, where are you going to indoctrinate kids to vote for the Democrat party?

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but but but I thought we were all free market types... capitalists.. conservatives.... etc etc

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Wildmen03 said:

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Tabasco said:

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Wildmen03 said:

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Tabasco said:

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Wildmen03 said:

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They cut 49 majors but only 900 students were affected?

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You can say that again!

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I swear I posted it once, then went back and the post was gone. So I reposted my comment. It's weird.

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LOL just messing with you. The 12-minute delta between the exact same posts was unique, so I felt the need to comment. I was picturing you worried about your memory, so you google Alzheimer's in your browser, and most of the hyperlinks were purple.

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I still only see one? Now I'm intrigued.

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Just to settle the mystery. Taken just now.

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It's AI!

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cant find a list anywhere online of what programs, but did find an article that said several currently have 0 enrollment

I doubt any of its science programs, so axe away

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I remember back in the mid 80's a Baylor geology grad told me that there were like 5 whole students majoring in geology at the time.

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Baylor interviewed me to teach in one of their technology majors. At the time I was a Dept head, and the inference was that was where they saw me.

In our discussion, I found the degree required a whole 18 hours. I told them it was impossible to produce excellent, marketable majors with so little instruction and passed.

I never cared enough to look it up, but I wonder if the other analytic/STEM degrees had the same problem?

Baylor... :-)

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deddog said:

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Make the loans, like every other business loan, dischargeable in bankruptcy.... you wouldnt need to pass a single other piece of legislation or reform, it would all self right itself in about 3 yrs

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Won't happen because if you let the market decide, you would never get a student loan for most liberal arts. Gender studies majors would disappear. And the college professors would be unemployed.
If the majors disappear from college, why teach them in schools?
if you don't teach them in schools, where are you going to indoctrinate kids to vote for the Democrat party?

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but but but I thought we were all free market types... capitalists.. conservatives.... etc etc

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You think Democrats will support this?

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My daughter got an admit from Penn State for this upcoming Fall but rejected it to go elsewhere.

Makes you think....

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Penn State at State College is actually a very good academic school

they just have a @#$@# football team.

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infinity ag said:

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My daughter got an admit from Penn State for this upcoming Fall but rejected it to go elsewhere.

Makes you think....

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Penn State at State College is actually a very good academic school

they just have a @#$@# football team.

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Yes, her major is Computer Science and Penn State U, University Park (State College, PA) is ranked 39 according to USNews. It is also more expensive at $70k (incl housing/food). She got into a place that is better ranked (top 15) and cheaper costing $35k and also closer to us.

So it was a no-brainer. We will be empty nesters in a few months.

49 majors have a total of 900 students? So 18 students per major. Yeah, I'd say it's time to shut those majors down.

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PSU has to cut some faculty too

in order to reap the benefits of the cuts

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Cutting college faculty can only be a good thing. Get out and actually work for a living instead of hiding in your left wing think tank.