The great boondoggle of our time

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Deputy Travis Junior
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They started this mess in 2008, so it's going to be 30+ freaking years between approval and service launch. Price to complete has 4x'd. Can we pull federal funding for this money pit?
Burrus86
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It's California! What did you expect!
coolerguy12
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The grift will continue until morale improves
Deerdude
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Harder to skim funds if project is completed. Why would they ever want to finish?
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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:




They started this mess in 2008, so it's going to be 30+ freaking years between approval and service launch. Price to complete has 4x'd. Can we pull federal funding for this money pit?


Thsts all? Pretty good for a government job. Exceptional for a Cali government job.

Of course, it's not finished.
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Whatever man. It was going to cost 7x the original proposal but now they've "optimized" it to only be 4x.

They are saving taxpayer dollars here.

And Trump pulled the remaining funds ($4B) for this last year.
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They started this mess in 2008,

I thought this high rail stuff in CA started much earlier than that. Is that the year they started buying up the ROW?
Logos Stick
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LOL liberals. Trump needs to cut off all funding.

In other news, BART (mass transit trains) in San Fran has a large structural budget deficit -- roughly $350 - $400 million each year.

and are on the verge of:

reducing service from five lines to essentially three main lines
running trains only every 30 minutes
ending service at 9:00 PM every day
raising fares and parking fees by about 30%
laying off hundreds of employees


But ignore the BART stuff and let's continue this bullet train boondoggle to transfer the little Marxists from San Fran to LA, two crime ridden, socialist hellscapes!

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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Logos Stick
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LOL
techno-ag
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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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What an embarrassment. Dem party is beyond a joke.
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techno-ag said:



Leftists are insane.

Elon Musk can build a rocket that will go to Mars for less than the cost of building this rail/train to go from LA to San Francisco.

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He did according to the internet.
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The only thing California loves more than spending it's own taxpayer's money is taxpayer money from other states for their disastrous policies.
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We are about to go full blown self driving cars on highways and these morons are still pursuing this fantasy.

Trains!!!! By god we will have trains!!! Never seen such a devotion to a mode that is a financial money pit and obsolete. But it is a Democrat fantasy, so I guess that makes sense in that regard.
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Now do Texas high speed rail. Engineering firms and law firms love some gubmint money. Moar please.
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Belton Ag
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They started construction of this thing near where I grew up out there about 12 years ago. I saw them pushing dirt when I was visiting family in Fresno north of town along the Highway 99 corridor. Now in 2026, they have a large concrete bridge in place in that same spot, but not a single inch of infrastructure touched within the ROW from that spot on the north side of Fresno to the south where it comes in to town several miles away, and it's my understanding they haven't even acquired all of the rights to use the property they need in that strech. I highly doubt they'll have that stretch completed and ready to go by 2033.
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It isn't about the train or even moving people with leftists. It is about a way to rationalize and justify a massive public jobs program that hires political constituents and supporters and allows for maximum grift and opportunities to push public tax dollars into your side of the political structure
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MouthBQ98 said:

It isn't about the train or even moving people with leftists. It is about a way to rationalize and justify a massive public jobs program that hires political constituents and supporters and allows for maximum grift and opportunities to push public tax dollars into your side of the political structure


Agreed for the folks at the top. The constituent Democrats though want a train because....Europe has trains.
BMX Bandit
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and lots of Republican voters want this in Texas. insanity travels
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The useful idiots have to be duped somehow with some sort of plausible narrative
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Shrink government by 95+% today. Insanity that we've let it get this bad.
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BMX Bandit said:

and lots of Republican voters want this in Texas. insanity travels


On trains, apparently.
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In view of the manner in which Lenin was shipped from Germany to Russia, you make a valid point.
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Urban Ag said:

What an embarrassment. Dem party is beyond a joke.

to them it's not an embarrassment

it's a MAJOR GRIFT which pours millions into their personal bank accounts
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Ag with kids
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YouBet said:

BMX Bandit said:

and lots of Republican voters want this in Texas. insanity travels


On trains, apparently.

Not really.

Insanity travels MUCH faster than that.

And in CA, it wouldn't wouldn't travel at all on a train...
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Ginormus Ag
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I can already tell you it won't be finished in 2040 and will cost more than 128 Billion.
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You could just give away 426 million free flights for that cost. It will never finish, but even if it did it will never send that many riders.
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It's insane people in Texas actually wanted to do something like this.

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I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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Mega Lops said:

It's insane people in Texas actually wanted to do something like this.




The idea of being able to get between Houston and Dallas quickly is very appealing, can't remember if it included San Antonio, but what you have to do to get it done is not. Both financially and morally.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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