Ufo file release day

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why doesn't someone tell the government that video is just a light pole or something?
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Spent a good part of my morning reading through the files and watching the footage. As expected no explanation on anything that they recorded, but the letters written by the "Saucer-Watcher" groups to the FBI director Hoover in the 1960's are pretty interesting and hilarious.
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Feels like this is all part of Spielberg promo.



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Dungeon Crawler Carl
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BboroAg said:

Non human beings have been visiting us for some time….the Bible confirms it


The Book of Enoch even gives their names.....

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In 1 Enoch, the fallen angels, often called Watchers, are led by Samyaza (Shemyaza) and Azazel, who descended to Mount Hermon, took human wives, and taught forbidden knowledge. While 200 angels fell, Enoch 6:7-8 lists 20 key leaders: Samyaza, Azazel, Araqiel, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Danel, Chazaqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, and Sariel.
Key Fallen Angels and their Roles (1 Enoch 6-8):
  • Samyaza (Shemyaza/Semjaza): The primary leader of the 200 Watchers.
  • Azazel: Taught metallurgy, teaching humans to make weapons of war (swords, shields, knives) and cosmetics.
  • Araqiel (Arakiel): Taught humans the signs of the earth (geomancy).
  • Armaros: Taught the dissolving of enchantments/spells.
  • Baraqel (Baraqijal): Taught astrology.
  • Kokabiel (Kakabel): Taught the constellations.
  • Chazaqiel (Ezeqeel): Taught meteorology (clouds).
  • Shamsiel: Taught the signs of the sun.
  • Sariel (Saraqael): Taught the course of the moon.
  • Gadreel (Gader'el): Credited with teaching the use of weapons and deceit.
  • Penemue: Taught the "inside," including writing and wisdom.
These Watchers are generally understood by researchers and theologians to be the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 who mated with human women, creating the Nephilim


If you are a bible believing Christian, you can't pick and choose your own spiritual adventure. Extra-dimensional beings are a part of the story of humanity......


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Im Gipper said:

Feels like this is all part of Spielberg promo.



Spielberg has been playing up the government release to hype his movie.

He's sort of implied a few times that the movie will be the actual release of the proof of alien life, although I assume he's doing that just to drum up more interest in the movie, like any good director should.
Rapier108
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Except the Book of Enoch is not canon to the Bible, and even most Jews don't accept it.
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The minute I read that I heard this in my head.

I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
Im Gipper
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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

BboroAg said:

Non human beings have been visiting us for some time….the Bible confirms it


The Book of Enoch even gives their names.....



Since we are listing non-biblical sources, they are also given names in E.T., and the Transformer movies!

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BMX Bandit
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If you are a bible believing Christian, you can't pick and choose your own spiritual adventure by adding books to the bible


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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

BboroAg said:

Non human beings have been visiting us for some time….the Bible confirms it


The Book of Enoch even gives their names.....




As said The Book of Enoch (specifically 1 Enoch) is apocalyptic and is not included in the Bible for most Christian and Jewish traditions.
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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

BboroAg said:

Non human beings have been visiting us for some time….the Bible confirms it


The Book of Enoch even gives their names.....

Quote:

In 1 Enoch, the fallen angels, often called Watchers, are led by Samyaza (Shemyaza) and Azazel, who descended to Mount Hermon, took human wives, and taught forbidden knowledge. While 200 angels fell, Enoch 6:7-8 lists 20 key leaders: Samyaza, Azazel, Araqiel, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Danel, Chazaqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, and Sariel.
Key Fallen Angels and their Roles (1 Enoch 6-8):
  • Samyaza (Shemyaza/Semjaza): The primary leader of the 200 Watchers.
  • Azazel: Taught metallurgy, teaching humans to make weapons of war (swords, shields, knives) and cosmetics.
  • Araqiel (Arakiel): Taught humans the signs of the earth (geomancy).
  • Armaros: Taught the dissolving of enchantments/spells.
  • Baraqel (Baraqijal): Taught astrology.
  • Kokabiel (Kakabel): Taught the constellations.
  • Chazaqiel (Ezeqeel): Taught meteorology (clouds).
  • Shamsiel: Taught the signs of the sun.
  • Sariel (Saraqael): Taught the course of the moon.
  • Gadreel (Gader'el): Credited with teaching the use of weapons and deceit.
  • Penemue: Taught the "inside," including writing and wisdom.
These Watchers are generally understood by researchers and theologians to be the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 who mated with human women, creating the Nephilim


If you are a bible believing Christian, you can't pick and choose your own spiritual adventure. Extra-dimensional beings are a part of the story of humanity......





Facts
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Rapier108 said:

Except the Book of Enoch is not canon to the Bible, and even most Jews don't accept it.


Jews don't accept Jesus as the Savior he claimed to be. Why listen to them?

The Book of Enoch is a historic text just like any other book of the bible. I can see why they don't include it in canon but that doesn't negate the fact that it confirms the whole fallen angel storyline in genesis.

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Fragments of the Book of Enoch (1 Enoch) were discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) in Qumran Cave 4, providing 11 Aramaic manuscripts that confirm the ancient origin of its Enochic tradition. These fragments cover roughly one-fifth of the complete Ethiopic text, revealing the work was authoritative to the Qumran community but notably missing the "Book of Parables" (1 Enoch 3771)


How do you define angels? Just some made up side characters in the Bible?

To me they are extra dimensional beings, just like God. i.e - alien to this physical world.
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BMX Bandit said:

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If you are a bible believing Christian, you can't pick and choose your own spiritual adventure by adding books to the bible


fify
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fine. Ignore the Book of Enoch. Are Angels and demons mentioned in Bible canon?
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Woo-Hoo!

We got a Nazi Die Glocke reference in one of the files.

So far this stuff looks like typical UFO videos, and lots of random "tip" throughout the years.
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GD Donut.
Im Gipper
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Quote:

The Book of Enoch is a historic text just like any other book of the bible.

LOL

The Epic of Gilgamesh and Bhagavad Gita are also "historic texts"

Those also are NOT the Word of God in the Bible!


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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

BMX Bandit said:

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If you are a bible believing Christian, you can't pick and choose your own spiritual adventure by adding books to the bible


fify
tyfyattm


fine. Ignore the Book of Enoch. Are Angels and demons mentioned in Bible canon?


Angels are spiritual, heavenly messengers and servants of God in Abrahamic traditions, acting as intermediaries, protectors, and guides for humanity. Demons are fallen angels. None of them are aliens from other planets.
Dungeon Crawler Carl
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None of them are aliens from other planets.

Prove it.
Rapier108
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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

Rapier108 said:

Except the Book of Enoch is not canon to the Bible, and even most Jews don't accept it.


Jews don't accept Jesus as the Savior he claimed to be. Why listen to them?

The Book of Enoch is a historic text just like any other book of the bible. I can see why they don't include it in canon but that doesn't negate the fact that it confirms the whole fallen angel storyline in genesis.

Quote:

Fragments of the Book of Enoch (1 Enoch) were discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) in Qumran Cave 4, providing 11 Aramaic manuscripts that confirm the ancient origin of its Enochic tradition. These fragments cover roughly one-fifth of the complete Ethiopic text, revealing the work was authoritative to the Qumran community but notably missing the "Book of Parables" (1 Enoch 3771)


How do you define angels? Just some made up side characters in the Bible?

To me they are extra dimensional beings, just like God. i.e - alien to this physical world.

I'm not going to derail the thread and get into a religious debate with you, so this will be my last reply on it.

The problem is, it was likely written just a few hundred years before Christ; therefore it does not confirm anything from Genesis; simply uses it as a base and then adds a bunch of details that the author made up.
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I agree. The only caveat is that Jude quotes a verse in the Book of Enoch.
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Queso1 said:

Grainy pics coming up.

Yep.

And here come the Star Wars nerds.
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Queso1 said:

Grainy pics coming up.

The ones I have seen posted were pretty terrible, tbh. Didn't sway my beliefs one way or another.
Rapier108
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Cru said:

I agree. The only caveat is that Jude quotes a verse in the Book of Enoch.

True, but quoting an existing writing that was commonly known to make a point or clarify something doesn't mean it is endorsing its entire validity.
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Hoyt Ag said:

Queso1 said:

Grainy pics coming up.

The ones I have seen posted were pretty terrible, tbh. Didn't sway my beliefs one way or another.

And they never will because there aren't any space aliens.

Just like there isn't a bigfoot, the loch Ness monster, or a yeti.

And what do space aliens share in common with those three monsters? We only have grainy pictures and footage that look like nothing, and they never show up at 2:00 p.m. on a Thursday in the middle of Houston Texas.

It's always in the middle of the night somewhere in the middle of BFE where only one person can swear it happened.
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East of the Rockies, call….
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Sure do miss Art
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If you had to drive long distance late at night, it was very entertaining
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1 Peter
Jude
Deut 32
Psalm89
Psalm82

All talk of the same story of Enoch 1


It works for me for sure
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The giants in the Old Testament are also obvious clues too
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Who knew this thread would turn into a biblical text authenticity debate?

How about this focuses on the actual topic instead?
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Who?mikejones! said:



"Elvis is not dead, he just went home..."
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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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None of them are aliens from other planets.

Prove it.


You cannot prove faith, but science demands proof.

Where is your proof that the angels and demons in the bible are aliens. Do we have undisputable artifacts, remains, anything that indicates that aliens visited earth and were referred to as angels? The answer is no.
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BMX Bandit said:



Don't give Trump any post ideas.
 
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