CapitalCityAg said:
62 y.o. retired from cleaning jobs due to deteriorating health according to the article, so I'd say it's conceivable that she may actually need some help.
Apply for disability then.
people are starving now because of Trump, re: food stamps
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Apply for disability then.
Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
62 with a 7 year old?
Logos Stick said:Ag87H2O said:
If you're retired, you should have the financial means to support yourself until you pass.
If you can't do that you shouldn't be retired.
She retired at 62 to get her early SS check. They allow you to work and earn money - up to a certain point- and not sacrifice the SS check.
The thing is, if you do that, you get paid less than you would if you kept working another five years.
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If they are anything like the SSA, bureaucratic FUBAR is highly likely in her case. At 79, she is elderly, unlikely to be able to get gainful employment (if she can even get around). At face value, people like her are who I consider the situations that warrant my taxpayer help. I know some will not agree, but I do recognize we have a responsibility to certain members of our society who genuinely cannot support themselves any longer.
You mean a person who has not had to work over the last 14 years, during one of the greatest increases in financial assets of all time? If this woman is unable to make ends meet when almost all of her day-to-day needs are already being met by taxpayers and workers, it's the fault of the system. Why is it that young workers have to cover the higher cost of lifestyles and the needs of the elderly?
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captkirk said:Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
62 with a 7 year old?
The 7 year old belongs to a different person in article. Here is "Dawn"
Should send military rations instead of food stamps. If you are asking the government to feed you, then the government should feed you in the manner that they feed other employees that don't get to have a choice what they eat.
Great, Grand-Kid.captkirk said:Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
62 with a 7 year old?
There is NOBODY starving or even regularly hungry in the USA for lack of SNAP or other food assistance.
There are people who make foolish choices and choose to go hungry or skip meal opportunities to have other things or make foolish life choices, and there are millions who use SNAP to subsidize discretionary spending on lifestyle choices sauce cash equivalents are fungible.
There are people who make foolish choices and choose to go hungry or skip meal opportunities to have other things or make foolish life choices, and there are millions who use SNAP to subsidize discretionary spending on lifestyle choices sauce cash equivalents are fungible.
Logos Stick said:
In case you missed it, the BBB has expanded work requirements for welfare. You don't get to simply feed at the trough anymore, Oh the horror! Here is a list of the changes:
"Expanded age range: The rules now generally apply to able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) ages 18-64 (previously up to age 54/55 in many cases).
Fewer exemptions: Exemptions were removed or narrowed for groups like veterans, people experiencing homelessness, and certain former foster youth (ages 18-24). Some parents/caregivers of older children (e.g., over age 13-14) are now subject to the rules.
Requirement details: Affected individuals must work, volunteer, or participate in approved training/education for at least 80 hours per month (about 20 hours/week). If they don't comply, benefits are typically limited to 3 months in a 36-month period."Quote:
The families going hungry because of Trump's food stamp cuts
PHOENIX The line outside a suburban office building was already 15 people long when Tiffany Hudson showed up with her 7-year-old son cradling his blanket. It was 7 a.m. At the front of the line was a woman hooked up to an oxygen tank who had arrived 90 minutes before the building opened.
This is a pic of the starving mom and her son. It's a little hard to see because of the son but I think there is a lot of meat on those bones:Quote:
"They told me I was an able-bodied adult and had to work. I'm 62 and newly retired, and I can't work," Savinski said. "There are a lot of people like me who fall into that crack. They say that they help the elderly, but they don't really."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-food-stamp-cuts-children-arizona-hungry-big-beautiful-bill-rcna343922?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=6a01c4cf2096e10001ccce1c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
USA*** said:
62yo isn't frackin' elderly and unless you've got a retirement plan and money saved away, it's too damn early to retire.
We have had people come in here that are in their 70's looking for a job, just because they are bored....
People are spoiled with handouts and take advantage of welfare. This is why it needs to have reform and large spending cuts in its budget. The longer you kick the can down the road the worse the reaction will be.
There will be riots that will make the George Floyd riots blush when they have to cut spending and take away a lot from welfare.
Disability is another one that is taken advantage of. There are people on disability that are not really disabled, strong young people. I know one that is 25 and in better shape than me, but he is considered "disabled" because he is a little slow in the head. I know people dumber that have labor focused jobs. They need to reset the standards to receive disability and have everyone on it get reexamined. Being obese or slow is not or should not be considered disabled
People need to be taken off the tit. Welfare is not a right
Tree Hugger said:
FTR, I'm 51 and I don't want to work. I could retire I guess but I need a few years to be able to finance the lifestyle I want to maintain.
So I will continue to work for a while.
You will get bored and be back at it, that or you will get tired of being around the wife haha
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
what's the point of having AI and robots do all the jobs if we have to keep working until we're close to our deathbeds anyway?AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
Is there a "retirement age"? There is an age you get full SS because they want you to wait to draw from it. There is also an age you get Medicare.
But those have nothing to do with retirement.
AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
I'm set to retire at 55. Might push it to 60. Just cause it will be an extra 3k a month. So raise the age, I wont need SS or medicaid.
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
Work from home customer service. A lot of B2B customer service are work from home. I'm confident the vast majority of suppliers I call have their people at home.
Another in a long long line of hit pieces that come out during Republican administrations where the biased news media finds the most pathetic, heart string tugging examples to influence opinion and make news. This one has an oxygen tank wielding nonagenarian, a 7 year old kid, and a couple of sob story women.
Science Denier said:AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
Is there a "retirement age"? There is an age you get full SS because they want you to wait to draw from it. There is also an age you get Medicare.
But those have nothing to do with retirement.
By setting an age for access to Social Security and Medicare, the government established a de facto 'retirement age' that the private sector later mirrored. Along those same lines, IRS rules around Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) by age 73 reinforce the idea that investment accounts are intended to shift from accumulation to distributio
The mother of the 7 year old is kinda being lumped in here wrongly. The new law says anyone that is able bodied must work 80 hours a month, unless they have kids under 14. She has two kids under 14, one being autistic, and still manages to work 50 hours a month.
People like that are at least trying and probably what safety nets are for.
People like that are at least trying and probably what safety nets are for.
captkirk said:Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
62 with a 7 year old?
I thought the same at first. Reread, and the article has sub stories for two lazies
tysker said:Science Denier said:AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
Is there a "retirement age"? There is an age you get full SS because they want you to wait to draw from it. There is also an age you get Medicare.
But those have nothing to do with retirement.
By setting an age for access to Social Security and Medicare, the government established a de facto 'retirement age' that the private sector later mirrored. Along those same lines, IRS rules around Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) by age 73 reinforce the idea that investment accounts are intended to shift from accumulation to distributio
I'm retiring next month. I will be 59 when I retire.
I plan on drawing SS the second I hit 62.
The Ex Officio Director said:AggieVictor10 said:
The retirement age should be raised anyway
If you're able to get up to go to the bingo hall you're able to go to work
I'm set to retire at 55. Might push it to 60. Just cause it will be an extra 3k a month. So raise the age, I wont need SS or medicaid.
I'm thinking similar. I'm only 45 now so it's a wats away yet. But if I don't fully retire at 55, I'm definitely looking to shift to part time. From there it'll be a question of possibly reducing contributions to some amounts and/or withdrawals from the traditional brokerage account.
Back before your moms were born, corn, corn flour, wheat flour, beans and (I believe) canned meat were available to those who qualified for temporary assistance.
In 1972, I had to pick my way through a sit-in in the main foyer of the San Patricio County Courthouse. I found two "organizers" (college students from Massachusetts) who were leading a chant "cash, not commodities." The Great Society pandered to that demand.
I have read that the list of items that can be purchased today with food stamps has been somewhat restricted. Food stamps might help support grocery stores in "economically depressed areas" but not where theft is rampant.
We need the staple-food-distribution model with a work requirement.
Most of all we should return to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic is a disciplined classroom environment. That is the most efficacious "welfare" we can provide to the needy.
In 1972, I had to pick my way through a sit-in in the main foyer of the San Patricio County Courthouse. I found two "organizers" (college students from Massachusetts) who were leading a chant "cash, not commodities." The Great Society pandered to that demand.
I have read that the list of items that can be purchased today with food stamps has been somewhat restricted. Food stamps might help support grocery stores in "economically depressed areas" but not where theft is rampant.
We need the staple-food-distribution model with a work requirement.
Most of all we should return to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic is a disciplined classroom environment. That is the most efficacious "welfare" we can provide to the needy.
Teslag said:
The mother of the 7 year old is kinda being lumped in here wrongly. The new law says anyone that is able bodied must work 80 hours a month, unless they have kids under 14. She has two kids under 14, one being autistic, and still manages to work 50 hours a week.
People like that are at least trying and probably what safety nets are for.
I think most of us would say this mother is exactly the person these programs are intended to help. The issue is that not all users are means-tested, and when means testing gets blurry, abuse occurs.
Plus, there is little incentive for the users or the program to end services between each other. It becomes symbiotic but also parasitic.
Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
Dude barring cancer or an accident I expect to be kicking ass at 62. After spending my first 40 years doing nothing I'm 45 and in better condition and health than I was when I was 25 and honestly expect to get better.
You have to care to sleep and eat correct and just devote a few hours to working out.
That's not a luxury. That's just prioritizing your health and giving a *****
I spend a small fortune on some advanced stuff and that has been wild but the first three are basic and you should be fully functional at 62. I just want to be kicking ass at 82.
Food stamp fraud has been prevalent for decades. Almost 40 years ago, I was working in CA during the summer at a road side fruit/vegetable stand i checked out a woman that paid for almost $60 ($175 today) in fruits and vegetables and helped carry her purchase to a brand new Mercedes sedan.
Based on what I read, she doesn't fall under the rules to be disqualified. Regardless, she and her kids ain't staving as the article implies.
pdc093 said:
If it's good enough for our military men and women, it's good enough for those that want handouts.
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
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"They told me I was an able-bodied adult and had to work. I'm 62 and newly retired, and I can't work," Savinski said. "There are a lot of people like me who fall into that crack. They say that they help the elderly, but they don't really."
What 'crack'?
It's not like she's some special case that simply cannot work, and doesnt qualify.
That's not a 'crack'....it's called laziness, and it's an epidemic.
62 and retired?
She's not even old enough to be president! Get out there and find a job!
She's not even old enough to be president! Get out there and find a job!
mode67ag said:
Back before your moms were born, corn, corn flour, wheat flour, beans and (I believe) canned meat were available to those who qualified for temporary assistance.
In 1972, I had to pick my way through a sit-in in the main foyer of the San Patricio County Courthouse. I found two "organizers" (college students from Massachusetts) who were leading a chant "cash, not commodities." The Great Society pandered to that demand.
I have read that the list of items that can be purchased today with food stamps has been somewhat restricted. Food stamps might help support grocery stores in "economically depressed areas" but not where theft is rampant.
We need the staple-food-distribution model with a work requirement.
Most of all we should return to teaching reading, writing and arithmetic is a disciplined classroom environment. That is the most efficacious "welfare" we can provide to the needy.
My parents got some free cheese blocks for a while when i was a kid. Don't know if that was a low income thing or just lets get rid of all this ****ing cheese thing.
All I remember is it wasn't all that good.
captkirk said:Kenneth_2003 said:
62... RETIRED... Can't work???
Can't afford her own existence...
The math aint mathing, but the lazy and entitled is adding up
62 with a 7 year old?
fertile myrtle
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The Ex Officio Director said:pdc093 said:
If it's good enough for our military men and women, it's good enough for those that want handouts.
i wonder what an MRE costs to produce?
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My great-grandmother was in charge of handing out welfare for their small hamlet in Massachusetts.
If you made it through the interview where you had to sit before her hawk-eyed glare over her spectacles, it was then thoroughly and sternly explained to you how to make better choices and improve your station in life, you got some groceries and were sent with something to warm your belly and a will to not need to come round again any time soon.
She was also the block captain for blackout drills during WWII and would make sure everyone's blinds were shut tight or you got a knock on the door to fix it.
If you made it through the interview where you had to sit before her hawk-eyed glare over her spectacles, it was then thoroughly and sternly explained to you how to make better choices and improve your station in life, you got some groceries and were sent with something to warm your belly and a will to not need to come round again any time soon.
She was also the block captain for blackout drills during WWII and would make sure everyone's blinds were shut tight or you got a knock on the door to fix it.
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