SC Senate majority leader (R) has decided to get stupid

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Logos Stick
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2:50p, 5/12/26
He's blocking the vote on redrawing the map. He needs to be primaried regardless of what happens here.

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Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey (R) is firmly opposed to South Carolina redistricting

Massey on the floor: "Too many people in power want to do whatever it takes to stay in power. But I ask, to what end? What do you with it when you've attained it? I believe the legitimate use of power in this context is to make people safer."


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2:52p, 5/12/26
AG
The ship's going down. Pleading with the captain to avoid the iceberg at this point is a waste of time.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 2:55p, 5/12/26
AG
If these numbers are correct, then screw that guy.


I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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2:55p, 5/12/26
AG
Morally I get it. Politically, he dug his grave.
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3:04p, 5/12/26
AG
Well, he's got the right name (phonetically, anyway)
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3:05p, 5/12/26
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What he hasn't factored in is the Democrats have done this for DECADES and artificially given themselves more seats with an unfair advantage. That has no doubt impacted the balance of power in Congress.

Sitting by and being 'nice' while the other team is working as hard as they can to defeat you accomplishes nothing.
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3:09p, 5/12/26
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What a stupid sanctimonious ******* that will let himself get used by the left. The Dems crapped all over collegiality and reasonableness a long time ago. With the hard left running that party at every level, politics is reduced to win to survive because power seeking is their only ethic now.


The left won't respect your principles or learn from them. They will exploit them.
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3:09p, 5/12/26
AG
I'm sure he and Clyburn scratch each other's backs a lot.
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3:10p, 5/12/26
how is he holding it up if there is one vote against?
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 3:14p, 5/12/26
AG
Morally, I find it reprehensible to be governed by people who believe a man can have a baby, believe there are more than two genders, believe that we are all going to die in 12 years from climate change, and believe that our rights were granted by a piece of paper and not God, oh, and are mostly pedophiles. This isn't the fringe of the party, but the driving force. They can all be gerrymandered right out of office.
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3:19p, 5/12/26
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority
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In reply to 2040huck • 3:27p, 5/12/26
AG
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

Now do democrats...
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In reply to Darthag11 • 3:32p, 5/12/26
AG
Darthag11 said:
how is he holding it up if there is one vote against?

He's majority leader in the state senate. The coastal delegation of Republican state senators also includes some folks who are rino's not just by reputation but literally (former Democrats who just run to be elected as republicans). There is a caucus of around 5 of them including Massey which would need to be broken to hit 31 votes (2/3rd majority) to pass a redistricting map per their rules.

SC politics is in some ways just as incestuous as WV or TX where there was no GOP body until recently really so most state-officials were Democrats by default and traded staff/campaign strategies with Dems by default.
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 3:33p, 5/12/26
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Morally I get it. Politically, he dug his grave.

If only the Democrats had any morality, then I would agree.
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In reply to 2040huck • 3:37p, 5/12/26
AG
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

We are a union of United States.

F this unfederalist idea.

The HOR is there to represent the people that elected him / her, not the whims of the entire electorate.

This idea is terrible, this idea of yours.
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3:51p, 5/12/26
AG
He's another wannabe "statesman" who thinks Republicans should "follow the rules" even though Democrats burned the rulebook back in 2009.
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3:57p, 5/12/26
they killed it...

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In reply to Gigem314 • 3:58p, 5/12/26
He knows. He is no different than Dustin Burrows. He's not really one of us.
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 3:59p, 5/12/26
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PDEMDHC said:
Morally I get it. Politically, he dug his grave.


He is scared it will give his side power yet the other side has proven they have absolutely no problem doing this for decades, and especially recently. Why is it always republicans pretending to take the high road when it benefits the other party.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 4:06p, 5/12/26
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Logos Stick said:
they killed it...

This just reaffirms that there are a lot of Republicans that aren't really Republicans. When it comes to critical legislation they will bail every single time and it's infuriating.

See John Thune and the Save Act.
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In reply to BusterAg • 4:19p, 5/12/26
BusterAg said:
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

We are a union of United States.

F this unfederalist idea.

The HOR is there to represent the people that elected him / her, not the whims of the entire electorate.

This idea is terrible, this idea of yours.

Would you at least agree that a state which is 60-40 should have representation somewhere near 60-40?
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In reply to 2040huck • 7:07p, 5/12/26
AG
2040huck said:
BusterAg said:
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

We are a union of United States.

F this unfederalist idea.

The HOR is there to represent the people that elected him / her, not the whims of the entire electorate.

This idea is terrible, this idea of yours.

Would you at least agree that a state which is 60-40 should have representation somewhere near 60-40?
No. There currently exists a political and economic philosophy that should not have representation.
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In reply to 2040huck • 7:13p, 5/12/26
2040huck said:
BusterAg said:
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

We are a union of United States.

F this unfederalist idea.

The HOR is there to represent the people that elected him / her, not the whims of the entire electorate.

This idea is terrible, this idea of yours.

Would you at least agree that a state which is 60-40 should have representation somewhere near 60-40?

As soon as your side redistricts to proportional representation in Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, California, New York, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maryland, Oregon, and New Mexico, then we can discuss South Carolina.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to 2040huck • 7:29p, 5/12/26
AG
2040huck said:
BusterAg said:
2040huck said:
So we should just go by the popular vote. If republicans get 51%, they should get a 51% house majority

We are a union of United States.

F this unfederalist idea.

The HOR is there to represent the people that elected him / her, not the whims of the entire electorate.

This idea is terrible, this idea of yours.

Would you at least agree that a state which is 60-40 should have representation somewhere near 60-40?


How would you regulate that? You would have to adopt universal rules for every state.

Its generally unworkable.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 7:38p, 5/12/26
He bats for the other team. Guaranteed
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In reply to Logos Stick • 7:46p, 5/12/26
Logos Stick said:
He's blocking the vote on redrawing the map. He needs to be primaried regardless of what happens here.

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Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey (R) is firmly opposed to South Carolina redistricting

Massey on the floor: "Too many people in power want to do whatever it takes to stay in power. But I ask, to what end? What do you with it when you've attained it? I believe the legitimate use of power in this context is to make people safer."



I know little of this guy but he has the soy boy look down pat. Looks like Mr. Bean and Mayor Pete had sex and defied the odds and had a baby.
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In reply to annie88 • 10:03p, 5/12/26
This is a misleading post frequently used as five of the nine states have only one or two seats (VT, DE have one, HA and ME, RI, NH have two) so have 0 R's isn't surprising There are also similar Republican dominated states especially because most small states with only 1 or 2 seats vote R.

OK 32% Harris 0 Dems (5 seats)
AR 34% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
IA 43% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
NE 39% Harris 0 Dems (3 seats)
UT 38% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)

In other words, both parties have mastered gerrymandering. Most people don't appreciate how critical it is to control the state Houses in determining the Congressional control of the house. I give the R's credit for seeming to have driven it even harder in advance of the 2026 midterm elections.
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10:05p, 5/12/26
He's either paid off or diddles kids and someone has the proof.
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10:20p, 5/12/26
They don't call em country club Republicans for nothing. More worried about their cocktail circuit than what happens in the real world. Been a problem forever.
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 10:46p, 5/12/26
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Kansas Kid said:
This is a misleading post frequently used as five of the nine states have only one or two seats (VT, DE have one, HA and ME, RI, NH have two) so have 0 R's isn't surprising There are also similar Republican dominated states especially because most small states with only 1 or 2 seats vote R.

OK 32% Harris 0 Dems (5 seats)
AR 34% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
IA 43% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
NE 39% Harris 0 Dems (3 seats)
UT 38% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)

In other words, both parties have mastered gerrymandering. Most people don't appreciate how critical it is to control the state Houses in determining the Congressional control of the house. I give the R's credit for seeming to have driven it even harder in advance of the 2026 midterm elections.

Thanks.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 11:03p, 5/12/26
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Kansas Kid said:
This is a misleading post frequently used as five of the nine states have only one or two seats (VT, DE have one, HA and ME, RI, NH have two) so have 0 R's isn't surprising There are also similar Republican dominated states especially because most small states with only 1 or 2 seats vote R.

OK 32% Harris 0 Dems (5 seats)
AR 34% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
IA 43% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)
NE 39% Harris 0 Dems (3 seats)
UT 38% Harris 0 Dems (4 seats)

In other words, both parties have mastered gerrymandering. Most people don't appreciate how critical it is to control the state Houses in determining the Congressional control of the house. I give the R's credit for seeming to have driven it even harder in advance of the 2026 midterm elections.

One party has also mastered counting illegals in their census numbers, so they get extra seats. That is neither ethical or moral and when an impartial court addresses it, it will no longer be legal. It also defies common sense.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 5:44a, 5/13/26
Mother ****ing Republican politicians are the dumbest ****ers on earth. They still don't understand what's at stake and the hardball that dems are playing. Primary all these ****wits.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 5:45a, 5/13/26
Logos Stick said:
He's blocking the vote on redrawing the map. He needs to be primaried regardless of what happens here.

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Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey (R) is firmly opposed to South Carolina redistricting

Massey on the floor: "Too many people in power want to do whatever it takes to stay in power. But I ask, to what end? What do you with it when you've attained it? I believe the legitimate use of power in this context is to make people safer."



Said literally no democrat politician ever in the history of ever.
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 5:47a, 5/13/26
PDEMDHC said:
Morally I get it. Politically, he dug his grave.

I'd get it morally if you were fighting a moral opponent. But the left is moral or ethical or even capable of ever doing the right thing. Their objective is power. Period. They don't care how they win.
Acting like you're honorable here is cutting the throat of your party and constituents.
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In reply to ts5641 • 5:50a, 5/13/26
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ts5641 said:
Mother ****ing Republican politicians are the dumbest ****ers on earth. They still don't understand what's at stake and the hardball that dems are playing. Primary all these ****wits.

There is still a slim chance the Governor calls a special session, which would allow it to happen this cycle still.

But, to your point, yes.
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