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Trump-Xi Summit
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eric76 said:BlackGold said:
I didn't reframe anything. You framed China's strength in only economic terms. I am speaking in diplomatic terms.
We still moved weapons systems out of Taiwan and the pacific - deterrence for China - and into Israel. Bad signal.
If we trade some type of chips deal, or even worse, our ally in Taiwan, for some closure to the Iran war, that would make it pretty obvious we wanted a deal and not the other way around. Again, bad signal.
If Trump is as seriously desperate for deals as he appears to be, he has a very weak bargaining stance and China will push that to their advantage.
What desperation is apparent on Trumps part? You need to put aside your Trump hate and just wait and see.
And itsa fwied rrrice you plick.
SigAg6 said:
Do Trump likey egg roll
Chinese eggroll is ass, Vietnamese eggroll is where it is.
Same goes for donuts, nails and dry cleaning. For massages, go Thai.
Chi coms put on a damn good show
Indeed their military parade puts ours to shame last year. The band looks and sounds good too with great tunes. But I did see a sax player screw up.
I'm sure this is their A team of marchers.
I'm sure this is their A team of marchers.
rab79 said:SigAg6 said:
Do Trump likey egg roll
Chinese eggroll is ass, Vietnameseeggrollspring roll is where it is.
FIFY
BQ78 said:
Indeed their military parade puts ours to shame last year. The band looks and sounds good too with great tunes. But I did see a sax player screw up.
I'm sure this is their A team of marchers.
The difference is in China if you **** up you die.
the person you are replying to has been nearly dead ass wrong about almost everything for over a decade now. it's worth the $5/mo to pass right over and not respond.
BadMoonRisin said:
the person you are replying to has been nearly dead ass wrong about almost everything for over a decade now. it's worth the $5/mo to pass right over and not respond.
I'm trying to imagine being so insecure that you pay money to not see opinions that don't fit your world view. Whew.
I blocked a lot of people during the COVID idiocy; he was not the first. This website banned me from F84 for posting that Kari Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test said that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes and that Fauci was a complete fraud and liar dating back to the HIV/AIDS epidemic, if you want to talk about insecurity and fragile views being protected. And that wasn't even an opinion, it was a video of him saying so.
And looking back, I was right.
Another great block would be the one who started the original COVID19 thread (if you remember, I do) who fell for Covidian nonsense hook-line-and-fk-sinker. He posted **** immediately about people dying in the streets (product of CCP propaganda) and stuck with it for at least 2-3 years, like a complete clown. "The hospitals are going to be at capacity! This is going to be terrible!" while nurses dance on Tik Tok in empty sick-wards.
Too bad Texags deleted that all. Oh weelllllllllllll. Too bad that I have a memory longer than a goldfish.
And looking back, I was right.
Another great block would be the one who started the original COVID19 thread (if you remember, I do) who fell for Covidian nonsense hook-line-and-fk-sinker. He posted **** immediately about people dying in the streets (product of CCP propaganda) and stuck with it for at least 2-3 years, like a complete clown. "The hospitals are going to be at capacity! This is going to be terrible!" while nurses dance on Tik Tok in empty sick-wards.
Too bad Texags deleted that all. Oh weelllllllllllll. Too bad that I have a memory longer than a goldfish.
BadMoonRisin said:
I blocked a lot of people during the COVID idiocy; he was not the first. This website banned me from their official board for posting that Kari Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the polymerase chain reaction test said that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes and that Fauci was a complete fraud and liar, if you want to talk about fragile views being protected.
I just hope she stood 6 feet from her lab assistants when she developed that test. And didn't sing out loud.
YouBet said:BadMoonRisin said:
I blocked a lot of people during the COVID idiocy; he was not the first. This website banned me from their official board for posting that Kari Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the polymerase chain reaction test said that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes and that Fauci was a complete fraud and liar, if you want to talk about fragile views being protected.
I just hope she stood 6 feet from her lab assistants when she developed that test. And didn't sing out loud.
Trump and Xi need to learn to use Zoom or perhaps email.
one safe place said:
Trump and Xi need to learn to use Zoom or perhaps email.
They've actually been writing letters to one another according to WSJ. Old school, man.
Like lovers.
Trump now visiting Temple of Heaven.
He will not resist making a comment about how that will be as close as he ever gets to heaven.
He will not resist making a comment about how that will be as close as he ever gets to heaven.
SigAg6 said:
Do Trump likey egg roll
Do McDonald's serve egg roll?
You can turn off signatures, btw
From the Bilateral Meeting in Beijing:
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 14, 2026
President Trump had a good meeting with President Xi of China. pic.twitter.com/WaH8hR1ZV3
Both countries agreed that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. pic.twitter.com/7hYMIBoTZY
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 14, 2026
The two sides discussed ways to enhance economic cooperation between countries, including expanding market access for American businesses into China and increasing Chinese investment.
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 14, 2026
Leaders from many of the United States’ largest companies joined a portion of the meeting. pic.twitter.com/i3Q1ogde2E
.@POTUS delivers remarks at the state banquet dinner at the Great Hall of the People: "It was a fantastic day, and in particular, I want to thank President Xi, my friend, for this magnificent welcome... and for so graciously hosting us on this very historic state visit." pic.twitter.com/lcFTC7wUY9
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) May 14, 2026
At the State Banquet, President Donald J. Trump invites President Xi to the White House this September. pic.twitter.com/VQ9GAoUELj
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 14, 2026
China sending a strong message about Taiwan. Biggest risk in the US/China relationship. US says their stance on Taiwan is not going to change.
Xi Jinping: Taiwan is a key issue in relations between China and the US
— Sprinter Press Agency (@SprinterPress) May 14, 2026
🙃 The Chinese President stated during negotiations with Donald Trump that Taiwan is the "most important issue" in Sino-American relations.
🙃 He emphasized that with "appropriate" management of this issue,… pic.twitter.com/J4kcMWfsTE
Houston Lee said:
China sending a strong message about Taiwan. Biggest risk in the US/China relationship. US says their stance on Taiwan is not going to change.Xi Jinping: Taiwan is a key issue in relations between China and the US
— Sprinter Press Agency (@SprinterPress) May 14, 2026
🙃 The Chinese President stated during negotiations with Donald Trump that Taiwan is the "most important issue" in Sino-American relations.
🙃 He emphasized that with "appropriate" management of this issue,… pic.twitter.com/J4kcMWfsTE
(Breathes sigh of relief)
I wonder if they had Chinese food at the banquet.
Think they just call it "food"
I don't think any "deal" with Chyna means much. I think Xi is feeling out Trump to see how strong he is on certain things. Chyna looks at the long game. They'll wait out Trump's term until the next feckless dem is in office to do whatever they want.
Bissent's order:
Xi has read this book and has asked Trump is China/USA is destined for War. This book is now trending big time.
Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? Hardcover January 1, 2014
by Graham Allison (Author)
CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ARE HEADING TOWARD A WAR NEITHER WANTS. The reason is Thucydides&;s Trap, a deadly pattern of structural stress that results when a rising power challenges a ruling one. This phenomenon is as old as history itself. About the Peloponnesian War that devastated ancient Greece, the historian Thucydides explained: &;It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable.&; Over the past 500 years, these conditions have occurred sixteen times. War broke out in twelve of them. Today, as an unstoppable China approaches an immovable America and both Xi Jinping and Donald Trump promise to make their countries &;great again,&; the seventeenth case looks grim. Unless China is willing to scale back its ambitions or Washington can accept becoming number two in the Pacific, a trade conflict, cyberattack, or accident at sea could soon escalate into all-out war.
In Destined for War, the eminent Harvard scholar Graham Allison explains why Thucydides&;s Trap is the best lens for understanding U.S.-China relations in the twenty-first century. Through uncanny historical parallels and war scenarios, he shows how close we are to the unthinkable. Yet, stressing that war is not inevitable, Allison also reveals how clashing powers have kept the peace in the past &; and what painful steps the United States and China must take to avoid disaster today.
Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? Hardcover January 1, 2014
by Graham Allison (Author)
CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ARE HEADING TOWARD A WAR NEITHER WANTS. The reason is Thucydides&;s Trap, a deadly pattern of structural stress that results when a rising power challenges a ruling one. This phenomenon is as old as history itself. About the Peloponnesian War that devastated ancient Greece, the historian Thucydides explained: &;It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable.&; Over the past 500 years, these conditions have occurred sixteen times. War broke out in twelve of them. Today, as an unstoppable China approaches an immovable America and both Xi Jinping and Donald Trump promise to make their countries &;great again,&; the seventeenth case looks grim. Unless China is willing to scale back its ambitions or Washington can accept becoming number two in the Pacific, a trade conflict, cyberattack, or accident at sea could soon escalate into all-out war.
In Destined for War, the eminent Harvard scholar Graham Allison explains why Thucydides&;s Trap is the best lens for understanding U.S.-China relations in the twenty-first century. Through uncanny historical parallels and war scenarios, he shows how close we are to the unthinkable. Yet, stressing that war is not inevitable, Allison also reveals how clashing powers have kept the peace in the past &; and what painful steps the United States and China must take to avoid disaster today.
Houston Lee said:
Xi has read this book and has asked Trump is China/USA is destined for War. This book is now trending big time.
Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? Hardcover January 1, 2014
by Graham Allison (Author)
CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ARE HEADING TOWARD A WAR NEITHER WANTS. The reason is Thucydides&;s Trap, a deadly pattern of structural stress that results when a rising power challenges a ruling one. This phenomenon is as old as history itself. About the Peloponnesian War that devastated ancient Greece, the historian Thucydides explained: &;It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable.&; Over the past 500 years, these conditions have occurred sixteen times. War broke out in twelve of them. Today, as an unstoppable China approaches an immovable America and both Xi Jinping and Donald Trump promise to make their countries &;great again,&; the seventeenth case looks grim. Unless China is willing to scale back its ambitions or Washington can accept becoming number two in the Pacific, a trade conflict, cyberattack, or accident at sea could soon escalate into all-out war.
In Destined for War, the eminent Harvard scholar Graham Allison explains why Thucydides&;s Trap is the best lens for understanding U.S.-China relations in the twenty-first century. Through uncanny historical parallels and war scenarios, he shows how close we are to the unthinkable. Yet, stressing that war is not inevitable, Allison also reveals how clashing powers have kept the peace in the past &; and what painful steps the United States and China must take to avoid disaster today.
I got issues with some of Allison's sourcing and comparisons…but by and large he's solid.
I preferred Avoidable War by Kevin Rudd, former AUS PM, long time China hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avoidable_War
In this 🧵I will analyze Xi Jinping's statement to President Trump on Taiwan. First, here is the statement from the MFA readout: pic.twitter.com/bwIs8cEtuV
— Bonnie Glaser / 葛來儀 (@BonnieGlaser) May 14, 2026
In 2024, Xi used the same line about cross-Strait peace and stability being as irreconcilable as Fire and Water. This is not unprecedented.
— Bonnie Glaser / 葛來儀 (@BonnieGlaser) May 14, 2026
The overall message from Xi to Trump is that handling Taiwan properly is essential for stable US-China relations. That’s consistent with Xi’s prior messaging. According to the Washington Post, Trump did not respond to Xi's comment about Taiwan. END
— Bonnie Glaser / 葛來儀 (@BonnieGlaser) May 14, 2026
Bonnie is a long time China watcher…
I don't think the Taiwan situation is going to change at all. For right now I guess status quo is what is hoped for(I guess that's kicking it down the road but that's ok). As long as the two leaders part company cordially, that will work for now.
BadMoonRisin said:
I blocked a lot of people during the COVID idiocy; he was not the first. This website banned me from F84 for posting that Kari Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test said that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes and that Fauci was a complete fraud and liar dating back to the HIV/AIDS epidemic, if you want to talk about insecurity and fragile views being protected. And that wasn't even an opinion, it was a video of him saying so.
And looking back, I was right.
Another great block would be the one who started the original COVID19 thread (if you remember, I do) who fell for Covidian nonsense hook-line-and-fk-sinker. He posted **** immediately about people dying in the streets (product of CCP propaganda) and stuck with it for at least 2-3 years, like a complete clown. "The hospitals are going to be at capacity! This is going to be terrible!" while nurses dance on Tik Tok in empty sick-wards.
Too bad Texags deleted that all. Oh weelllllllllllll. Too bad that I have a memory longer than a goldfish.
Pretty much anyone with even a tiny bit of common sense got the same treatment with regards to F84. They made an entire forum for crazy people and then banned those that dared to point out their illogicial levels of delusions. And then the little cross icon to show you're a doctor.....LOL. Bunch of dumbass doctors in F84
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
one way to avoid a war with china
would be for the rest of the world to make Taiwan so invincible to attack that it would destroy the Commies to even try.
maybe the rest of the world should try thinking about a real strategy?
would be for the rest of the world to make Taiwan so invincible to attack that it would destroy the Commies to even try.
maybe the rest of the world should try thinking about a real strategy?
Instead of making Taiwan invincible, how about we make ourselves not so dependent on Taiwan for chips?
LMCane said:
one way to avoid a war with china
would be for the rest of the world to make Taiwan so invincible to attack that it would destroy the Commies to even try.
maybe the rest of the world should try thinking about a real strategy?
Hard concur.
Xi Jinping's comments to Trump indicate that China's preferred course is to lock in the current phase of strategic stalemate for at least the remainder of Trump's term and ideally beyond (未来3年乃至更长时间).
— Julian Gewirtz (@JulianGewirtz) May 14, 2026
Xi presents the search for stability as the central strategic… https://t.co/csVeJR5kSS
Another China watcher.
oh no said:
Instead of making Taiwan invincible, how about we make ourselves not so dependent on Taiwan for chips?
This is the answer and it's our own fault. We wanted a cheaper product way back, and this is the price we now pay.
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