Science Denier said:

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Krazykat said:

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Can someone tell me what he has done in the 42 years in office?

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He's made some nasty-ass looking brisket.

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If there was ever a photo that screamed "out of touch with your voters", that was it.

schmellba99 said:

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Decay said:

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So many Concerned Moderates coming out of the woodworks. If you all voted for Cornyn he'd still be around next year!

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I voted for him twice in three months! Did my best to keep out the freaks like French and Middleton too. I'm afraid these primaries are going to be a race to the bottom until somebody finally loses a general. That's really the only way to discipline the primary voters.

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That is about the perfect mentality for a milquetoast Bush type republican that has no actual spine.

Imma give you a hint - I don't need to be disciplined. Take that nonsense and toss it in the trash. HTMFH. Toodles.

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It's called virtue signaling. Virtue signaling very well could destroy any truly conservative movement.

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JB99 said:

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Regardless of whether you like Cornyn or not, we need less career politicians. After Paxton serves 2 terms we should replace him. We should replace Cruz.

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Cruz sucking Israel's **** will get him replaced. Plus hes old now and seems to of lost his fastball. It's funny to me he originally ran on term limits.

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So did Massie.

Funny how that changes once they get in...

It time for history to repeat it's self and replace the Republicans and Democrats like they replaced the Wigs and Federalists.

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If Cornyn was a RINO, then I don't really know what a Republican is supposed to be. If he was too far left, then I think this is maybe where I get off the train.

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I for one, realizing I'm in the minority on F16, think the loss of Cornyn is bad for the GOP and bad for Texas. Hate him all you want, but Cornyn was a politician with a ton of quiet power and influence who was a genius at whipping.

We are losing that in favor of … Paxton. Who can talk with fiery breath all day long but he will ostracized in the Senate (assuming he wins) with little or no influence other than complaining on X. And while Paxton's record as Texas AG is for sure in the plus column, that doesn't translate to national political experience and doesn't even sniff the level of influence and craftiness Cornyn had.

No, I'm not related to Cornyn and note nothing above is about him being a "good person" or anything at all about Paxtons sordid past.

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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24 years is long enough, don't think he was all that bad.
When 'conservative' is just defined as whatever DJT says on a given day, hard to not be called a RINO.

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This isn't even close to accurate, but doubt seriously any logic can penetrate the armor of TDS.

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Yeah we're the deranged ones. Not the folks that suddenly think massive debt accumulation and foreign wars are conservative just because Trump said so.

What craftiness? Examples please.

Ragoo said:

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What craftiness? Examples please.

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When he was Minority Whip, Cornyn was a beast. I don't have the time (or care enough, since he lost and it's over) to dig up specific examples. But he's always done well in senate leadership.

Look, I'll happily be wrong and yes, I'll be holding my nose and voting for Paxton (can't say the same for some I know who will now be voting third party).

That is exactly part of the problem. Republican progressives talk big when out of power and let the dem progressives take all the blame for the country lurching leftward. Then when in power they barely tap the brakes and claim they can do no more.

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itsyourboypookie said:

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JB99 said:

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Regardless of whether you like Cornyn or not, we need less career politicians. After Paxton serves 2 terms we should replace him. We should replace Cruz.

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Cruz sucking Israel's **** will get him replaced. Plus hes old now and seems to of lost his fastball. It's funny to me he originally ran on term limits.

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Only on F16 would someone think Texas will replace the Senator who consistently ranks at the top of conservative voting records and positions because he supports our greatest ally in the Middle East.

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It's also weird how the antisemitism is cool here

aggiegolfer2012 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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24 years is long enough, don't think he was all that bad.
When 'conservative' is just defined as whatever DJT says on a given day, hard to not be called a RINO.

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This isn't even close to accurate, but doubt seriously any logic can penetrate the armor of TDS.

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Yeah we're the deranged ones. Not the folks that suddenly think massive debt accumulation and foreign wars are conservative just because Trump said so.

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You certainly hit the nail on the head with your first sentence.

CampSkunk said:

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You answered your own question. Moderates support many genders - that's why they are moderates. Also, abortion. If you don't think it's a risk - fine. I do. We'll find out in November.

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This isn't logical. So you are saying that "moderates" are so offended by Paxton's infidelity that they will vote for a fake preacher who is gaslighting the Bible, claims to have a long-time girlfriend of years that no one has ever seen nor knows her name, and creepily thinks about trans kids?

These moderates have one conservative principled stand for straight marriage, but are simultaneously far left wing in policy everywhere else?

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Ragoo said:

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What craftiness? Examples please.

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When he was Minority Whip, Cornyn was a beast. I don't have the time (or care enough, since he lost and it's over) to dig up specific examples. But he's always done well in senate leadership.

Look, I'll happily be wrong and yes, I'll be holding my nose and voting for Paxton (can't say the same for some I know who will now be voting third party).

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he was the whip from 2013 to 2019 - what did he accomplish during that time as a leader?

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njohn87 said:

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If Cornyn was a RINO, then I don't really know what a Republican is supposed to be. If he was too far left, then I think this is maybe where I get off the train.

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He was too far left.

Gun control.

Pandering ads in spanish advocating for amnesty.

But more than anything, he was ineffective at wielding power.

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The gun control issue is what doomed him.

What a moron. You are the senator from freaking TEXAS.

Read the room a little bit, idiot.

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That and his crappy brisket.

Kind of ironic that Talerico wants to abolish barbeque.

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TAMUallen said:

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Htownag11 said:

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njohn87 said:

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If Cornyn was a RINO, then I don't really know what a Republican is supposed to be. If he was too far left, then I think this is maybe where I get off the train.

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He was too far left.

Gun control.

Pandering ads in spanish advocating for amnesty.

But more than anything, he was ineffective at wielding power.

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The gun control issue is what doomed him.

What a moron. You are the senator from freaking TEXAS.

Read the room a little bit, idiot.

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Be a vocal advocate for SAVE and this was never even a runoff. Boy got too big for his britches after a couple decades of politics

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Paxton even said he would leave the race if Cornyn did what he could to get the SAVE act passed.
The single most important piece of legislation in a decade.
And our "Republican" senator sided with the Dems.
How is this even a debate?

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Bingo, be for SAVE act and Paxton wouldn't have even been competition. He couldn't do that despite MASSIVE country wide support of it

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Oh, but he was one hell of a WHIP and wielded his earned power in the senate.

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why can't we get a fantastic candidate in their late 40s -

who is a MAGA patriotic conservative who supports the military, Israel, hamburgers, Apple Pie and hot women?!!

there are literally THIRTY THREE MILLION TEXANS!!!

and we are left with a guy who looks 80 and a guy facing serious ethics charges who often times looks like a slob.

The incompetence of the state GOP to recruit great candidates is stupefying and criminal.

@#$@#$ Los Angeles has a better Republican candidate than Texas!!

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I certainly understand the frustration. Unfortunately, I suspect any established or connected aspiring politicos know the "rules." The "rules" are no one runs against Cornyn and similar candidates. It is up to them to step aside.

For someone to run against Cornyn is to run against the system. People "in the system" like the State GOP apparatus don't consider it. You won't be supported in your campaign and you will be forever barred from the Establishment if you lose. So you have to be something of a maverick, outsider, ideologue, or narcissist to even think about it. People sometimes get away with this in the House but not in the Senate.

One of the strongest methods of control the Establishment maintains in Washington is limiting what Congress allows to be considered. Same principle in who the parties put before the constituents. If it was up to the State GOP no one would have run against Cornyn.

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BTKAG97 said:

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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24 years is long enough, don't think he was all that bad.
When 'conservative' is just defined as whatever DJT says on a given day, hard to not be called a RINO.

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How hard is it to back a simple Voter ID law? If that doesn't constitute being a RINO....

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He voted for the SAVE act. If you think Paxton is going to walk in and end the filibuster to get it passed, you're going to be disappointed.

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Good thing that never crossed my mind. Now I won't have to worry about being disappointed.

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Discipline the voters????? DISCIPLINE THE VOTERS???!!!! What in the sam hill does that mean? Has it just slipped your mind that those people, if they are doing their jobs correctly, work for the voters?

That is just insanity.

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Same mentality as Peter Jennings calling the GOP winning the House in 1994 a "temper tantrum".

These are just the wrong sort of people in general to them all.

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If Cornyn was a RINO, then I don't really know what a Republican is supposed to be. If he was too far left, then I think this is maybe where I get off the train.

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I for one, realizing I'm in the minority on F16, think the loss of Cornyn is bad for the GOP and bad for Texas. Hate him all you want, but Cornyn was a politician with a ton of quiet power and influence who was a genius at whipping.

We are losing that in favor of … Paxton. Who can talk with fiery breath all day long but he will ostracized in the Senate (assuming he wins) with little or no influence other than complaining on X. And while Paxton's record as Texas AG is for sure in the plus column, that doesn't translate to national political experience and doesn't even sniff the level of influence and craftiness Cornyn had.

No, I'm not related to Cornyn and note nothing above is about him being a "good person" or anything at all about Paxtons sordid past.

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If he was such a genius at whipping, why couldn't he get the Save act passed? Maybe because he wasn't?

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He was great at killing things the swamp didn't want. Great influence. Lots of power.

I think you all are being too hard on Cornyn. He's a polite, gentlemanly politician who votes conservative most of the time. But the whole game changed from gentlemanly dealmaking to a no-holds barred brass knuckles take no prisoners type of approach. And he just ain't fit for that. It's like sending a weak fighter into a gunfight with a pocket knife.

So thank him for his service, and then let the poor man enjoy his retirement.