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But still more, and I guess we should just conveniently forget about the last few months?

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The MIC and everyone who made money through them isn't forgetting.

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WTI down another 3% today at 74.50

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Just $7.48 more to go down and it'll be right where it was the day before Trump attacked Iran.

And about $1.50 more to go down at the pump too.

Soon we'll be right back where we started.

But, at least Iran and the MIC made out like bandits in the end, all while oil and prices at the pumps were high for the entire world.

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You forgot again about the part where we obliterated Iran's ballistic missile capabilities.

Do you think that Iran with zero ballistic missile capabilities and Iran with enough missile capability to overpower the US anti-ballistic missile system is "right back where we started"?

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I think Iran isn't in such a bad shape that they don't already know they're getting the better end of this deal for now and I'm the near future until Trump is gone from office.


I mean, do you really think Iran is in a worse place for long ifthey placate Trump until he's out of office? Do you really think those in charge are sad at the deal?

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The ones that are still alive are very much thrilled to make this deal now. Otherwise they would continue to hide in a bunker from the US and their own people.

Does anyone think they would have taken this deal before military action? Zero chance.

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For $300 billion payout, who wouldn't take the deal.

Hell, bomb the eff out of my place then give me money to make it better than it was, I'll take it.

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It's not a payout. It's financing by their neighbors around the gulf, contingent on their behaving. Also presumably they'll have to pay their neighbors back on the loans at some point.

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My bad about where the money was coming from.

Still, it is more than they were getting before Trump attacked them.

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That's kind of like the broken window fallacy. Presumably this money is to help rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed.

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So kind of like we break and we buy. I mean, that's about as fair as it gets then. Not what I expect from the "complete and utter surrender" aspect of things, but at this point I'm sure everyone I'm the administration wants to get to, and through, the 250th in as celebratory vibes as possible.

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Except in this case their Gulf neighbors are doing the financing. We broke, Iran borrows from their neighbors to fix.

Keep at it. You'll get it eventually.

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borrows? you think iran/IRGC is going to pay back the 300 billion?



that's a new angle of stupidity i haven't seen yet!

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No one is stupid enough to give the Iranian government cash.

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Uh… except for the Obama/Biden administration.

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Holy whataboutism of ignorance. Last I checked, 300 billion >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.3 billion

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The difference is, once again the $300 billion in financing is not coming from us.

The $1.3 billion delivered to Iran on pallets in cold hard cash via did come from us. That's not whatsboutism, that's a stark difference.

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And that is just the cash payments we know of.
FYI the cash payment was not in dollars.... Just a way to try to hide it from the American public.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-united-states-iran-and-1-7-billion-sorting-out-the-details/

Did you even read the article you posted? It was their money from a deal made right before the Shah fell. It blows my mind that folks are determined somehow it was a nefarious payoff.

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Did you even read the article you posted? It was their money from a deal made right before the Shah fell. It blows my mind that folks are determined somehow it was a nefarious payoff.

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And that is the point. The deal was with a government that did not exist and yet Obama sent the money anyway!

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Did you even read the article you posted? It was their money from a deal made right before the Shah fell. It blows my mind that folks are determined somehow it was a nefarious payoff.

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That's a pretty flimsy excuse. They overthrew the Shah in their revolution.

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You thank him for the fact that you are paying more than you did a few months ago? Why?

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2.88 is about the same…

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Lucky you. Must be nice.

It's $3.22 for me, which is a little over 50% more when I got gas for $2.02 before Trump's attack.

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How much was it Oct 19th?

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Just $7.48 more to go down and it'll be right where it was the day before Trump attacked Iran.

And about $1.50 more to go down at the pump too.

Soon we'll be right back where we started.

But, at least Iran and the MIC made out like bandits in the end, all while oil and prices at the pumps were high for the entire world.

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You forgot again about the part where we obliterated Iran's ballistic missile capabilities.

Do you think that Iran with zero ballistic missile capabilities and Iran with enough missile capability to overpower the US anti-ballistic missile system is "right back where we started"?

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I think Iran isn't in such a bad shape that they don't already know they're getting the better end of this deal for now and I'm the near future until Trump is gone from office.


I mean, do you really think Iran is in a worse place for long ifthey placate Trump until he's out of office? Do you really think those in charge are sad at the deal?

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The ones that are still alive are very much thrilled to make this deal now. Otherwise they would continue to hide in a bunker from the US and their own people.

Does anyone think they would have taken this deal before military action? Zero chance.

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For $300 billion payout, who wouldn't take the deal.

Hell, bomb the eff out of my place then give me money to make it better than it was, I'll take it.

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It's not a payout. It's financing by their neighbors around the gulf, contingent on their behaving. Also presumably they'll have to pay their neighbors back on the loans at some point.

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My bad about where the money was coming from.

Still, it is more than they were getting before Trump attacked them.

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That's kind of like the broken window fallacy. Presumably this money is to help rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed.

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So kind of like we break and we buy. I mean, that's about as fair as it gets then. Not what I expect from the "complete and utter surrender" aspect of things, but at this point I'm sure everyone I'm the administration wants to get to, and through, the 250th in as celebratory vibes as possible.

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Except in this case their Gulf neighbors are doing the financing. We broke, Iran borrows from their neighbors to fix.

Keep at it. You'll get it eventually.

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borrows? you think iran/IRGC is going to pay back the 300 billion?



that's a new angle of stupidity i haven't seen yet!

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No one is stupid enough to give the Iranian government cash.

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Uh… except for the Obama/Biden administration.

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Holy whataboutism of ignorance. Last I checked, 300 billion >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.3 billion

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300 billion was a small price to pay to completely, totally, and outright win the war military operation/excursion.

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You thank him for the fact that you are paying more than you did a few months ago? Why?

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2.88 is about the same…

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Lucky you. Must be nice.

It's $3.22 for me, which is a little over 50% more when I got gas for $2.02 before Trump's attack.

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How much was it Oct 19th?

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I paid (checks notes) 2.22 at the Sam's in C-STAT on Feb. 24.

2.29 on 3-1
2.59 on 3-5
2.96 on 3-9 Oh the humanity!

On 3-13 it dropped back to 2.94 before going into the 3's.

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2.88 is about the same…

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Lucky you. Must be nice.

It's $3.22 for me, which is a little over 50% more when I got gas for $2.02 before Trump's attack.

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How much was it Oct 19th?

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$2.29.

Gotta love apps.

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The solution was not to start this in the first place. Or at least know in advance the potential economic repercussions. If only there were people who warned about the economic repercussions before starting this boondoggle…

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If it keeps Iran from getting a nuke it's worth it.

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It's funny that some of y'all still believe this.

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They believe it because Dear Leader said it, even though he also said we obliterated their nuclear program.

Anyway go back to eating crow about how prices are coming down because Dear Leader cleaned up the mess he made.

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So, you are petfectly fine with Iran having enough ballistic missiles to overwhelm the US anti missile systems?

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"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some,"

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The solution was not to start this in the first place. Or at least know in advance the potential economic repercussions. If only there were people who warned about the economic repercussions before starting this boondoggle…

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If it keeps Iran from getting a nuke it's worth it.

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It's funny that some of y'all still believe this.

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They believe it because Dear Leader said it, even though he also said we obliterated their nuclear program.

Anyway go back to eating crow about how prices are coming down because Dear Leader cleaned up the mess he made.

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So, you are petfectly fine with Iran having enough ballistic missiles to overwhelm the US anti missile systems?

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"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some,"

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Nope. All is fair in love and war.

Saw gas for 3.09 and diesel for 4.09 in Houston today on Wallisville Rd. No way I was stopping though- that's a rough part of H town.

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The solution was not to start this in the first place. Or at least know in advance the potential economic repercussions. If only there were people who warned about the economic repercussions before starting this boondoggle…

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If it keeps Iran from getting a nuke it's worth it.

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It's funny that some of y'all still believe this.

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They believe it because Dear Leader said it, even though he also said we obliterated their nuclear program.

Anyway go back to eating crow about how prices are coming down because Dear Leader cleaned up the mess he made.

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So, you are petfectly fine with Iran having enough ballistic missiles to overwhelm the US anti missile systems?

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"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some,"

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Nope. All is fair in love and war.

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Tell that to djt

FFS can we stop talking about the 300 billion that is play money that the other Arab states are spending in an attempt to bribe Iran and make sure when the shooting happens again Iran does not blow up their O&G infrastructure

The MOU certainly implies that sanctions of Iranian oil are off and it seems likely if the SOH stays open Iran and Oman will be collecting tolls in the future

Those 2 giveaways are more than enough to make it obvious that the US lost the 2 nd round of this military operation thanks Bibi for coercing Trump into a second round of bombing

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Did you even read the article you posted? It was their money from a deal made right before the Shah fell. It blows my mind that folks are determined somehow it was a nefarious payoff.

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And that is the point. The deal was with a government that did not exist and yet Obama sent the money anyway!

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And there wasn't going to be a deal without the money being returned maybe the JCPOA should not have been pursued and agreed to.

Similarly the current MOU would not have been agreed to by the Iranians without assets being unfrozen

When you can't force surrender on the battlefield at the negotiating table you probably will have to surrender treasure or land or both

6/11: Gas was $3.499 at a 7-Eleven at 2600 Guadalupe Street in Austin, and I paid $3.199 after I received 30 cents off per gallon from the 7-Eleven rewards app.

6/19: Gas was $3.559 at the same 7-Eleven location, and I paid $3.339 after I received 22 cents off per gallon from the 7-Eleven rewards app.

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6/11: Gas was $3.499 at a 7-Eleven at 2600 Guadelupe in Austin on 6/11, and I paid $3.199 after I received 30 cents off per gallon from the 7-eleven rewards app.

6/19: Gas was $3.559 at the same 7-11 location, and I paid $3.339 after I received 22 cents off per gallon from the 7-eleven rewards app.

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I'm in Kingsland, HEB and 7-11and the Mobil station across the street were all 3.25 last week. Today the 7-11 and the Mobil are up to 3.55 and HEB is down to 3.19.

I think the sorta holiday weekend is the cause, lots of boats and gas cans getting filled, and the HEB is difficult to get a boat into. The last few months they have all had very similar prices which I've never seen in the 25 years I've lived here.

This thread is aging about like the Iran has Fully Capitulated thread. Now we have special summer blends with extra ethanol that give less miles per gallon but at still high prices.

HEB is 3.14 in Georgetown

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This thread is aging about like the Iran has Fully Capitulated thread. Now we have special summer blends with extra ethanol that give less miles per gallon but at still high prices.

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I was wondering why my mpg is slightly down even though I drive the same route during the week.

$2.59 in Cypress.

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$2.59 in Cypress.

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Thanks Trump!

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HEB is 3.14 in Georgetown

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$3.499 at HEB by me.

Jumped nearly $0.50 overnight. QT and Valero by me at $3.59.

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Jumped nearly $0.50 overnight. QT and Valero by me at $3.59.

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Just like by me, the other night.


Thuper GAAAAY!

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6/11: Gas was $3.499 at a 7-Eleven at 2600 Guadelupe in Austin on 6/11, and I paid $3.199 after I received 30 cents off per gallon from the 7-eleven rewards app.

6/19: Gas was $3.559 at the same 7-11 location, and I paid $3.339 after I received 22 cents off per gallon from the 7-eleven rewards app.

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I'm in Kingsland, HEB and 7-11and the Mobil station across the street were all 3.25 last week. Today the 7-11 and the Mobil are up to 3.55 and HEB is down to 3.19.

I think the sorta holiday weekend is the cause, lots of boats and gas cans getting filled, and the HEB is difficult to get a boat into. The last few months they have all had very similar prices which I've never seen in the 25 years I've lived here.

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I guess 3.55 was too much and 7-11 and Mobil were down to 3.39 this morning.

Am I missing something? Drove by two murphys and a couple of QTs today and all of them were 2.98.

It's not going to be perfectly linear but it is still happening, despite the uptick in driving during the summer.

Gas under $3 average by July 31.

Currently $3.95 -- AVERAGE NATIONWIDE which means it is already cheaper in some places.

Under $3.50 by July 5. https://t.co/oJ13J1nNcc

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) June 21, 2026

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It's not going to be perfectly linear but it is still happening, despite the uptick in driving during the summer.

Gas under $3 average by July 31.

Currently $3.95 -- AVERAGE NATIONWIDE which means it is already cheaper in some places.

Under $3.50 by July 5. https://t.co/oJ13J1nNcc

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) June 21, 2026

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Really makes for the argument that gas prices never had to be a high as they were.

Maybe prices will even go lower than ever now that we know "but blah blah blah, middle east and lowered reserves and whatever excuse we can't up to so we can say we HAVE to raise gas prices!!"

When all those tankers headed to Texas a couple months ago to get in line to 'gas up' I could see the logical response of American costs increasing (hey, at least recruiting in FB/BB/baseball has coincidentally been going great. Thanks Trump!).

I tried to put this somewhere but it goes here I think; latinos trending the wrong way for midterms over economic concerns, not the border/deportations/war. I listened to some smart guys discussing this, this week and think it is true. July 4th is the last real chance to shift things on that sentiment before November imho (and hispanics aren't a monolithic voting block a la blacks but a significant demographic either side can swing/persuade net, nationally to me).

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When all those tankers headed to Texas a couple months ago to get in line to 'gas up' I could see the logical response of American costs increasing (hey, at least recruiting in FB/BB/baseball has coincidentally been going great. Thanks Trump!).

I tried to put this somewhere but it goes here I think; latinos trending the wrong way for midterms over economic concerns, not the border/deportations/war. I listened to some smart guys discussing this, this week and think it is true. July 4th is the last real chance to shift things on that sentiment before November imho (and hispanics aren't a monolithic voting block a la blacks but a significant demographic either side can swing/persuade net, nationally to me).

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Like I said a couple of weeks ago, I could see a deal being done before the 4th just to make sure gas goes back down and things look better for the GOP in the midterms.

So, if this is the case: did we really win the war on our own terms or was it ended for the politics to benefit the GOP? And if the latter, was the war ever truly needed in the first place?

Oh well, at least it's made the last few months interesting. Now I'm sure we'll for back to Epstein and whatnot because the "fun" (political aspect of war with Iran) part is over.

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$2.59 in Cypress.

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Thanks Trump!

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Indeed. Too bad he can't fix stupid in Calif. I paid $6.20 for 91 octane this morning in LA. It's been >20 years since it was in the $2.50 range in SoCal.

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When all those tankers headed to Texas a couple months ago to get in line to 'gas up' I could see the logical response of American costs increasing (hey, at least recruiting in FB/BB/baseball has coincidentally been going great. Thanks Trump!).

I tried to put this somewhere but it goes here I think; latinos trending the wrong way for midterms over economic concerns, not the border/deportations/war. I listened to some smart guys discussing this, this week and think it is true. July 4th is the last real chance to shift things on that sentiment before November imho (and hispanics aren't a monolithic voting block a la blacks but a significant demographic either side can swing/persuade net, nationally to me).

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Like I said a couple of weeks ago, I could see a deal being done before the 4th just to make sure gas goes back down and things look better for the GOP in the midterms.

So, if this is the case: did we really win the war on our own terms or was it ended for the politics to benefit the GOP? And if the latter, was the war ever truly needed in the first place?

Oh well, at least it's made the last few months interesting. Now I'm sure we'll for back to Epstein and whatnot because the "fun" (political aspect of war with Iran) part is over.

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Are Iran's missiles no longer a credible threat to our Navy?

Is the strait open?

When both of those are yes, we won the war on our own terms, as the terms were laid out by our leaders at the beginning of the war.

I paid $2.95 at Costco here in Frisco on 6/20, been a while that I've see gas below $3 at Costco.

saw it at 3.08 in Bellmead on Saturday. Lets keep this going.