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Why would he not want Pressler there?

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Because Presler has been nonstop pushing him on the SAVE Act. He partially blames Presler for Cornyn & Cassidy getting kicked to the curb as well.

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That's fine and dandy, but until this moment I don't believe I'd ever heard of Pressler. He had no influence on my vote against Cornyn - that was more Cornyn's fault that he sucked, his take on brisket sucks, and it was time for him to go.

But it's also time for Thune to go.

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Why would McConnels staff care? They are done in a few months.

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I assume they are your average political flunky and want to be able to get a politically related job again sometime in the future..... If the Republican Senate was actually serious about passing this then that one is easy.

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Thune needs to go. Deep state POS.

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I never understood how he got in there in the first place.

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You're class of '88 yet you have no recollection of the 1981-2015 Reagan / Bush / Cheney / McCain / Trent Lott / Romney era of Republicanism?

Corporate Rs like Thune, Cornyn, Romney, and Lott were the rule not the exception in that GOP era. Now they're the exception in the current historic (2015-____) Trump era of the GOP.

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SD sure is strange

I'm remembering back when they got rid of Daschle, lol

The Natl Democrat Party got far more progressive than SD would agree with and Daschle was out there as the mouthpiece

Now Thune, I guess his colors have just taken longer to reveal

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They had some weirdness on the transgender issue too. I think I remember a few years back, they had a Republican majority in both legislative chambers and they sent a law banning youth gender transitions to a Republican governor who vetoed it. It turns out they have a fairly powerful pharmaceutical lobby in the state that didn't want the ban.

Maybe I'm thinking of North Dakota. Also, I probably can't find the article/podcast that talked about it.

In any event, Thune has to go. I'm sure he has an entrenched political machine like Harry Reid did in Nevada.

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Yes that was a few years back. Noem vetoed it. Her chief of staff was in tight with big pharma. Sure she got some kickbacks for the veto also.

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Relatively off topic for this thread, but I found the story.

I misremembered some of the details, but this is the story I was thinking of:

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/31161363/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-kills-transgender-bill-orders-restrictions

As to why, I haven't been able to find that. Apparently SD has a swamp too though.

Thune and Co. were ok back in the day when democrats weren't so far left, the biggest fight was the throwing of verbal jabs, and election cheating wasn't the norm. Nowadays, they bring a butterknife to the gunfight and hoping that the democrats don't slaughter them.

Decent guys, in the old days, but times have changed. We need street brawlers at the top now.

Sounds like the good people of SD are figuring that out.

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Thune and Co. were ok back in the day when the uni party could launder unlimited public funds through USAID back into their PACs and there was no credible populist threat on the horizon to pull the mask off of their phony conservatism.

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fify

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Pressler convinced the Amish to register and get ID, something they have always been reticent to do. And it was something like 100,000+ he got registered in PA. It was > the margin of victory.

He did real, tangible work for America.

ETA - he also organized the March against Sharia Law protest.

F Thune

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Yes and Pressler also did enough in NJ, NEW JERSEY! to massively boost the GOP vote in that massively Democrat state. Disaffected voters who just quit voting at all because it was futile. Pressler would make multiple contacts and convince them to come back and show upfor the first time in a long time.

Now this had been the same type of voter reachout that got Trump elected in 2016. Identifying disaffected voters in the Blue Wall. Get them reregistered and to the polls.

I have mixed feeling about Ronna McDaniels but in 2016, when she was chair of the state GOP in Michigan in 2016, she kept telling Trump he needed to have another rally there as her numbers wre showing his was in the strike zone. IIRC, he was in Michigan until about midnight before election day.

Now would be a great time for team Trump to leak any Epstein type dirt they have on Thune. 2028 is too far away.

Leak everything on Thune and demand proof of life for his evil uncle Turtle.

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Hmm.

🔥🚨 MAJOR BREAKING — South Dakota GOP Committee has UNANIMOUSLY voted to CENSURE Sen. John Thune.

HIS HOME STATE IS FED UP! 🔥

The resolution will now head to a floor vote before the South Dakota Republican Party.

MASSIVE: The people in Thune's home state are sick OF HIM… pic.twitter.com/NBNmRA3fCy

— The Patriot Oasis™ (@ThePatriotOasis) June 26, 2026

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South Dakota GOP Committee has UNANIMOUSLY voted to CENSURE Sen. John Thune.

HIS HOME STATE IS FED UP!

The resolution will now head to a floor vote before the South Dakota Republican Party.

MASSIVE: The people in Thune's home state are sick OF HIM OVER the stalled SAVE America Act and are raising serious questions about Thune's future ahead of 2028.

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What does this actually mean? Can they "recall" him or vote to replace him? Or have to wait until 2028?

Horrible and lazy are a deadly combination and that is the definition of Thune

Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

Wait until 2028. Like in December 2027, he announces his retirement. He runs for reelection, he knows he will be primaried anyway.

OTOH, GOP member who might feel they are in position to get him out as Majority Leader in the meantime?

We'll see.

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Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

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If even that.

Thune could conceivably choose to do like MTG did and decide to resign rather than have himself and his family threatened, harrassed, and targeted by Trump crazies. But it is unlikely Thune would do that.

U.S. Senators cannot be recalled by voters. They can be expelled by the Senate itself, but that requires a 2/3rds majority.

If you want someone like Cornyn out, you expose his cheatin, grafting ways.

Dude makes Paxton look like a Baptist deacon, whilst not saying much, says something.

If Cornyn had honor, he would resign, let Abbott put in Paxton today, and let the Country move forward.

It's what the party fka DNC would do

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Thune is worse than a DemocRat. .

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Drinking early. Love to see it.


The biggest political power since WW2 has been Donald Trump. If he can't get this to 50 votes, how is milquetoast Thune supposed to?

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Incredibly lazy take. Thune, as well as Cornyn, has done NOTHING but simply state that "we don't have the votes".

I remember a time where the majority leader and the majority whip would exact a political price for those that wouldn't fall in line for a measure with 70+% national support.

Thune is content with running cover for Republican obstructionists. And it's patently obvious.

What's lazy is you not knowing that votes have happened and there are 4 that aren't budging and don't really care what Thune or Trump do or say

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Now would be a great time for team Trump to leak any Epstein type dirt they have on Thune. .

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Q should help too.

"We don't have the votes" is a bs excuse.

Put it to a vote and let the Rs that vote against it publicly defend themselves on the record.

Then put it to another vote.

Apply some f'n pressure and LEAD.

Rinse and repeat.

Make them defend NOT voting for a 99/1 issue amongst their constituency and DONORS.

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Put it to a vote and let the Rs that vote against it publicly defend themselves on the record.

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Those opposed would be just fine with that

It's been put to a vote. Those RINOs against it have had no problem "defending" the no vote

Two aren't running.
One will lose to a nazi if she vote ms for it
One is an Alaskan Democrat

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They don't have 50 votes for the non-watered down version. They have 50 votes for the version without the provision on mail in ballots. Which Trump has said he won't sign

But even if that's just strategy to get anything, vote 50 (Collins) has said she won't change the senate rules to get it passed. So she won't vote for it if it involves the talking filibuster etc

So again, it doesn't have 50 votes.

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Again, the way to get this done is get it down to Collins. Right now, Collins is sheltered by McConnell, Murkowski, Tillis, and others.

Peel those off, then let the light shine on Collins alone, Make her verbally defend her position.

But doing absolutely nothing further than "we don't have the votes" is the sign of either a feckless leader, or someone who's hiding the fact that THEY don't want the legislation.

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Peel those off, then let the light shine on Collins alone, Make her verbally defend her position.

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She has.

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What's lazy is you not knowing that votes have happened and there are 4 that aren't budging and don't really care what Thune or Trump do or say

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The only roll call vote I can find was the failed attempt to add the SAVE act to the reconciliation package, which was ruled a no-go by the Parlimentarian.

Interesting that you accuse me of being lazy because I didn't know about that specific vote, whereas my point is that EVERYONE should know. I'm following this process, and what I see is deflection and excuses. I do NOT see a serious attempt to whip the Republican caucus and get everyone on board.

Instead, we're now in a patty-cake recess with pro-formas every 3 days that keep the administration from pushing through recess appointments. Thune is obstructing, plain and simple. If he's not going to be vocally in support of SAVE act, then at least push through a formal recess so Trump can make recess appointments. He's doing neither. No pressure on Republican holdouts, and no support for the President.

I can't fix that, but I can damn sure keep calling it out. And so can you.

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Peel those off, then let the light shine on Collins alone, Make her verbally defend her position.

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She has.

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Not being an ass, but please provide a link. The only thing I can find is her making comments in support of it.

All of the "defenses" of her no vote are from Democrat groups and Marc Elias, etc.

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Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

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If even that.

Thune could conceivably choose to do like MTG did and decide to resign rather than have himself and his family threatened, harrassed, and targeted by Trump crazies. But it is unlikely Thune would do that.

U.S. Senators cannot be recalled by voters. They can be expelled by the Senate itself, but that requires a 2/3rds majority.

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Trump crazies? He was threatened with a primary opponent to get him out of office for stalling the agenda on an 80/20 issue across the entire population of America to ensure our elections are fair and only citizens are able to vote, and rightfully so.

It's not like he was shot in the neck, swatted, or had protests outside of his house or anything like your side prefers.

False equivalency denied.

Tune is in bed with the commie democrats. He is a fraud.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

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If even that.

Thune could conceivably choose to do like MTG did and decide to resign rather than have himself and his family threatened, harrassed, and targeted by Trump crazies. But it is unlikely Thune would do that.

U.S. Senators cannot be recalled by voters. They can be expelled by the Senate itself, but that requires a 2/3rds majority.

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Trump crazies? He was threatened with a primary opponent to get him out of office for stalling the agenda on an 80/20 issue across the entire population of America to ensure our elections are fair and only citizens are able to vote, and rightfully so.

It's not like he was shot in the neck, swatted, or had protests outside of his house or anything like your side prefers.

False equivalency denied.

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Either you are extremely uninformed or in willfully deep blind denial about the things rightwing Trump crazies have done. Threats, stalking, swatting, murders, shootings.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

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If even that.

Thune could conceivably choose to do like MTG did and decide to resign rather than have himself and his family threatened, harrassed, and targeted by Trump crazies. But it is unlikely Thune would do that.

U.S. Senators cannot be recalled by voters. They can be expelled by the Senate itself, but that requires a 2/3rds majority.

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Trump crazies? He was threatened with a primary opponent to get him out of office for stalling the agenda on an 80/20 issue across the entire population of America to ensure our elections are fair and only citizens are able to vote, and rightfully so.

It's not like he was shot in the neck, swatted, or had protests outside of his house or anything like your side prefers.

False equivalency denied.

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Either you are extremely uninformed or in willfully deep blind denial about the things rightwing Trump crazies have done. Threats, stalking, swatting, murders, shootings.

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Okay. Maybe I am. Cite your sources and provide receipts. It should be incredibly easy for you to prove what you believe to be true, if it is based in reality.

Im not going to hold my breath, though.

You are missing the point, though (unsurprisingly). Scott P wants to primary Thune because he doesn't support a bill that 80% of the American public supports. Most Americans support the bill that Thune is stonewalling. If the Maj Leader cant pass an 80/20 (generously) bill, he is absolutely worthless.

I would think that any Senator with standing would listen to his constituency, and vote in their favor.

The fact that he cant, means he has to go.. Same ****, different tissue with Cornyn, and he got his ass blown the **** out.

BadMoonRisin said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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DeschutesAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Its like a strongly worded finger-wag

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If even that.

Thune could conceivably choose to do like MTG did and decide to resign rather than have himself and his family threatened, harrassed, and targeted by Trump crazies. But it is unlikely Thune would do that.

U.S. Senators cannot be recalled by voters. They can be expelled by the Senate itself, but that requires a 2/3rds majority.

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Trump crazies? He was threatened with a primary opponent to get him out of office for stalling the agenda on an 80/20 issue across the entire population of America to ensure our elections are fair and only citizens are able to vote, and rightfully so.

It's not like he was shot in the neck, swatted, or had protests outside of his house or anything like your side prefers.

False equivalency denied.

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Either you are extremely uninformed or in willfully deep blind denial about the things rightwing Trump crazies have done. Threats, stalking, swatting, murders, shootings.

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Okay. Maybe I am. Cite your sources and provide receipts. It should be incredibly easy for you to prove what you believe to be true, if it is based in reality.

Im not going to hold my breath, though.

You are missing the point, though (unsurprisingly). Scott P wants to primary Thune because he doesn't support a bill that 80% of the American public supports. Most Americans support the bill that Thune is stonewalling. If the Maj Leader cant pass an 80/20 (generously) bill, he is absolutely worthless.

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Sounds like a typical R.

The SAVE act doesn't have 80% support. Requiring voter ID to register to vote does. When voters learn about the bill's other provisions, support falls below 50%.