*******The Official Houston Texans 2022: AW Thread************

367,196 Views | 3999 Replies | Last: 2 yr ago by IrishAg
Frok
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ryan34 said:

W said:

I guess the Texans are going to try to win with defense

We aren't hiring someone to run one side of the ball or the other. The HC is responsible for the whole team. Strategy, scheme, player development, coach development, all of it. Sure, you still need skilled coordinators and assistants, but it starts at the top.

DeMeco has been incredibly successful as both player and coach due to his intelligence, toughness and leadership. He's easily the candidate I wanted most. No one is a sure thing, but I really believe he'll be successful so long as the front office can do their job.


True, but I hope he hires a good OC
redag06
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The problem with a defensive minded coach, is that if you get a good OC, he is going to be hired away as a HC. Then you are back looking for a new OC, which can set back the development of a young QB.
IrishAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Frok said:

Ryan34 said:

W said:

I guess the Texans are going to try to win with defense

We aren't hiring someone to run one side of the ball or the other. The HC is responsible for the whole team. Strategy, scheme, player development, coach development, all of it. Sure, you still need skilled coordinators and assistants, but it starts at the top.

DeMeco has been incredibly successful as both player and coach due to his intelligence, toughness and leadership. He's easily the candidate I wanted most. No one is a sure thing, but I really believe he'll be successful so long as the front office can do their job.


True, but I hope he hires a good OC


I think he will, he has good connections now and the respect of his peers, which should allow him to get good advice and hopefully be able to close on a good choice.
Ag_07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
redag06 said:

The problem with a defensive minded coach, is that if you get a good OC, he is going to be hired away as a HC. Then you are back looking for a new OC, which can set back the development of a young QB.


This is a good point that I had never really thought about before.

Wonder if he could hire an offensive consultant kinda like Romeo was on defense? Be the one constant who can provide input on what works with the QB and what doesn't.
. . .
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ag_07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
No Deshaun?
canadiaggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
. . . said:




I miss the 2011-12 Texans
LincolnBorglum79
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Demeco Ryans will be the Texans new head coach by Tuesday. This team is easily the best available job for a coach and demeco will be a perfect fit. Texans will battle
The Jags for the south title next year. Titans and colts are getting worse.
Max Power
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
canadiaggie said:

. . . said:




I miss the 2011-12 Texans
If not for injuries that team could have have the Super Bowl.
Max Power
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
One thing I'm curious about if Ryans is the hire is what his QB philosophy is. He's coming from SF where they had arguably the least stable QB situation in the NFL and they made it to the NFC title game. I wonder if an experience like that tends to make him think he can win with a guy like Jimmy G or if he's taking over a team that finished last in the AFC if he definitely needs to get a guy Young or Stroud. I guarantee he knows the value of building around the QB, gotta have the offensive line, to protect the QB and have a run game, also need weapons for him since they've got guys like Kittle, Samuel, and Aiyuk. Those pieces were key to giving Purdy a real chance at winning. He might look at this roster and say there's zero point in drafting a QB that high if he has no weapons or adequate protection. Also, him being a defensive coach he might look at Carter and Anderson and say they're too good to pass up. Watching Chris Jones last night shows how a DT can wreck a gameplan for an entire offense.

I think the title games this weekend were interesting because the AFC title game had 2 elite 1st round QBs in Mahomes and Burrow. The NFC title game had a Hurts who was drafted in the third round and Purdy who was drafted in the 7th. SF and Philly have top notch offensive lines, run games, and passing weapons, elevating their QBs. KC and Cincinnati have missing pieces on offense, their QBs have more of a burden to win on their own. Cincinnati's offensive line was detrimental to their success. KC just didn't have the same number of passing weapons they're used to having outside of Kelce.
IrishAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Max Power said:

One thing I'm curious about if Ryans is the hire is what his QB philosophy is. He's coming from SF where they had arguably the least stable QB situation in the NFL and they made it to the NFC title game. I wonder if an experience like that tends to make him think he can win with a guy like Jimmy G or if he's taking over a team that finished last in the AFC if he definitely needs to get a guy Young or Stroud. I guarantee he knows the value of building around the QB, gotta have the offensive line, to protect the QB and have a run game, also need weapons for him since they've got guys like Kittle, Samuel, and Aiyuk. Those pieces were key to giving Purdy a real chance at winning. He might look at this roster and say there's zero point in drafting a QB that high if he has no weapons or adequate protection. Also, him being a defensive coach he might look at Carter and Anderson and say they're too good to pass up. Watching Chris Jones last night shows how a DT can wreck a gameplan for an entire offense.

I think the title games this weekend were interesting because the AFC title game had 2 elite 1st round QBs in Mahomes and Burrow. The NFC title game had a Hurts who was drafted in the third round and Purdy who was drafted in the 7th. SF and Philly have top notch offensive lines, run games, and passing weapons, elevating their QBs. KC and Cincinnati have missing pieces on offense, their QBs have more of a burden to win on their own. Cincinnati's offensive line was detrimental to their success. KC just didn't have the same number of passing weapons they're used to having outside of Kelce.
I wouldn't be surprised if we pass on a QB (or if we select a QB for that mtter) going into this draft. If he's big into analytics, he's gotta be paying attention to the fact that only 1 of 4 starting QBs in the conference championship games wasn't on a rookie contract. Even if you look back to the previous round, you add 1 other QB to the 8 (so still only 25%) of the QBs aren't on a rookie contract. Teams on rookie QB contracts are Eagles, Giants, 49ers, Jaguars, Bengals, and the Bills (Allen is on a rookie contract this year and his big contract starts next year). Only the Chiefs and Cowboys had QBs off their rookie contracts.

That's a pretty big blinking "look at me" analytical point when it comes to building a team.

W
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
here's a good question...

what are the differences between DeMeco and Robert Saleh --- the previous SF DC hot candidate?
IrishAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
https://sports.yahoo.com/fred-warner-49ers-bracing-demeco-150559052.html?src=rss

That's a great sign that you're hiring a coach the players respect, not a surprise to most of us who watched him as a player here, but still nice to see.
canadiaggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ag_07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Whether he is the answer to this turnaround or not is yet to be seen but it is pretty refreshing to see the Texans get something right.

Feels like it's been awhile.
The Porkchop Express
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Max Power said:

canadiaggie said:

. . . said:




I miss the 2011-12 Texans
If not for injuries that team could have have the Super Bowl.
7-3 when Schaub went down, got to 10-3 with Leinhart and TJ Yates, then stumbled across the finish line.

All said, JJ"s rookie year INT vs the Bengals in the playoffs is still one of my top 3-4 plays in Texans' history.

IrishAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
W said:

here's a good question...

what are the differences between DeMeco and Robert Saleh --- the previous SF DC hot candidate?


Maybe not a ton, but Saleh has been building a great team with the Jets, and is also a great example of not drafting a QB before you know what your team needs. The Jets are on a great trajectory and would probably have had a much better record if they weren't in such a difficult division (and didn't get some critical injuries to Hall and almost all their QBs).

Time will tell overall, but the plus side is that DeMeco has a lot of coaches in his caching tree that he can go to for advice.
Max Power
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
IrishAg said:

W said:

here's a good question...

what are the differences between DeMeco and Robert Saleh --- the previous SF DC hot candidate?


Maybe not a ton, but Saleh has been building a great team with the Jets, and is also a great example of not drafting a QB before you know what your team needs. The Jets are on a great trajectory and would probably have had a much better record if they weren't in such a difficult division (and didn't get some critical injuries to Hall and almost all their QBs).

Time will tell overall, but the plus side is that DeMeco has a lot of coaches in his caching tree that he can go to for advice.
If the Jets had another QB instead of Wilson they could have made a run at the division, they are really close. They helped illustrate how important it is for Houston to get that right. They have a lot of good pieces.
canadiaggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG



Yikes. You know your org is in trouble when a coach rejects you for the Texans
Ag_07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Talking heads all chalked up Denver being the best job available but I never saw it

They have no draft capital after shipping it to SEA for Wilson
They're stuck with Wilson (who sucks) and his boat anchor contract
John Elway doesn't seem like an easy guy to work with
The Porkchop Express
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ag_07 said:

Talking heads all chalked up Denver being the best job available but I never saw it

They have no draft capital after shipping it to SEA for Wilson
They're stuck with Wilson (who sucks) and his boat anchor contract
John Elway doesn't seem like an easy guy to work with

I've never seen anyone angrier at winning a football game than when Tim Tebow beat the Steelers that time in overtime of a wild card game and Elway looked furious that the QB he hated kept winning games.
Aust Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Forgot all about that....what's the story with the Tebow hate though. Was he forced upon him by the owner or something?
The Porkchop Express
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
They drafted him in the first round in 2010. He got his first victory over the Texans naturally. In 2011, the Broncos started off 1-3 with Kyle Orton and he sucked so hard they eventually pulled him in a game and put Tebow in probably because the crowd really wanted to see him play. He almost led a comeback so they made him the starter for the rest of the season. I have to believe Elway thought they would suck so much ass with him as QB that they'd get a top 1-5 pick and he'd be able to draft a quarterback to rebuild with. Especially since that was the year that Luck went #1.

Instead, Tebow went 7-4 as a starter with some really ugly wins and bad stat lines. They beat the Chiefs in a game where he only threw 8 passes.

The Broncos lost their last 3 games of the regular season to go from 8-5 to 8-8 but still made the playoffs because the Raiders pulled a classic Raiders and lost to the Chargers so all three of them finished 8-8. The Broncos won the AFC West because they had the best record vs common opponents (5-5). So they then hosted a wild card game against the Steelers who had gone 12-4.

In the wild card game. Tebow only completed 10 passes but racked up 316 yards including an 80-yard to Demariyus Thomas on the first play of OT for a 29-23 win. And the most Bible beating NFL player ever thus had 316 yards and 31.6 yards per completion right in line with ol' John 3:16.

So of course they got destroyed by New England in the next round, and Elway is hating every second of it because his starting QB is rushing for more yards than he's passing most days. He says in the off-season that Tebow will be their starter the next year, but then signs Peyton as a free agent and gets Tebow on the first plane out to New York.

Texaggie7nine
How long do you want to ignore this user?
bilbobag said:

Demeco the new coach by the end of day Monday... Come home Demeco
7nine
scd88
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm actually pretty excited about the possibility of Ryans. Hope we hear some positive news soon.

First time in a while I've been excited about anything related to the Houston Football Club. Please don't kick me in the balls, Cal.
Ag_07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I see Demeco is meeting for his 2nd interview today. I'm assuming that means getting the formal offer and/or signing his contract.

Guessing we hear something this afternoon or tomorrow.
RVAg02
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
https://www.houstontexans.com/news/texans-completed-additional-discussions-with-demeco-ryans-for-head-coach

Umm..ok...so now what?
Ryan34
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
RVAg02 said:

https://www.houstontexans.com/news/texans-completed-additional-discussions-with-demeco-ryans-for-head-coach

Umm..ok...so now what?

"Completed additional discussions" sounds like they offered him a contract and are waiting on a response. Maybe I'm wrong though.
canadiaggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ryan34 said:

RVAg02 said:

https://www.houstontexans.com/news/texans-completed-additional-discussions-with-demeco-ryans-for-head-coach

Umm..ok...so now what?

"Completed additional discussions" sounds like they offered him a contract and are waiting on a response. Maybe I'm wrong though.




Sounds like an agreement in principle, hashing out contract details before signature and finalization
The Porkchop Express
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ask the Giants and Mets about done deals.
512Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The Porkchop Express said:

Ask the Giants and Mets about done deals.
If Andy Reid can pass the head coach physical...
Sea Speed
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Whatever happened with the correa deals? I don't even try and keep up with the astros thread
Cartographer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Couldn't pass a physical. Something with his foot/ankle?

He re-signed with the Twins bc of it.
LincolnBorglum79
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Carlos Correa is back with the Twins after failing the Mets physical
Sea Speed
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
And after failing the giants one as well right? How much did that cost him on the contract?
First Page Last Page
Page 82 of 115
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.