*******The Official Houston Texans 2022: AW Thread************

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bilbobag
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Troy Walters
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I can't imagine Demeco sat down and explained his vision for the team and that included Pep on his offensive staff much less as his OC.
The Porkchop Express
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Russell Wilson will have to play until he's 55.
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bilbobag said:

This will never become public but give a big shout out to Mrs. McNair. She was a big fan DeMeco when he was drafted and has kept in touch with DeMeco ever since his departure from Houston.

I can't tell how good it is to have him home!
Why would they not make it public? It gives them credibility that they actually know what they're doing.
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Maybe to make it look like it was all Cal?
bilbobag
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Mrs. McNair is a behind the scenes lady. Doesn't want the attention.
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Anyone who has seen cal walk more than 5 feet knows he had nothing to do with a good hire.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Anyone who has seen cal walk more than 5 feet knows he had nothing to do with a good hire.


From what I gather he was very involved and it was day/night compared to the last two hires.

Like I said earlier credit where it's due. We'll see if this lights a fire under Cal's ass to finally start treating the franchise as more than just his personal money printer.
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WES2006AG said:

Sea Speed said:

Ag_07 said:

I feel very odd being excited over a Texan decision.




I honestly don't recall the last time this thread has had a positive vibe to it and people have been excited about something the Texans have done.
The last time anything positive happened to the Texans was the first quarter of the playoff game against the Chiefs. Been nothing but a **** sandwich since with the massage enthusiast demanding a trade and our general lack of looking like an actual professional sports franchise.

This feels like a ray of sunshine compared to the recent past.
No lie, I'm so pumped about this. And to think there ended up being a team that had limited draft capital because of a bad trade for a player, who double downed and traded even more to get a potentially washed up coach.....and it wasn't us. The fact that we're no longer the team desperately trying to hold on to "what could have been" and instead the team who has the top young and upcoming coach, with a **** ton of draft picks, and all kinds of cap space. WOW
BMX Bandit
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Brian Flores get a spot in Texans HOF if Ryans works out? Saved them from the McCown experiment
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I'm pumped about this, and this is the first time I've been pumped about the Texans since Kubiak.

I never thought BoB was going to be the guy to take the Texans where they need to go. The whole Patriots Way never felt right to me. Culley and Lovie are nice guys, but we all knew they were never the solution.

Yes, there is still a lot of work to do, but DeMeco gives the fans and franchise something that it has desperately needed.... HOPE!

I'm ready for this new chapter. DeMeco makes me actually want to watch a Texans game again and be invested. I haven't felt like that since 2012.
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Thinking about the Broncos and Saints...The Saints made off like bandits in this deal.

They basically traded a paperweight and a 3rd for a 1st and 2nd.

Peyton wasn't contributing at all and they turned him into 2 picks.
redag06
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If Pep is retained for anything on this team, Demeco and caserio should be fired immediately, but that would take competent owners.
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Maybe he did, and that is what sold cal. One less contract to buy out.

If pep is actually being considered to stick a round it just showcases the joke this franchise is.
bilbobag
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Dude calm down.

It's called due diligence.

It will most likely be a guy who DeMeco brings from outside. A name I posted earlier to keep an eye is Slowik.
redag06
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As it should be, pep should've been fired with culley.


But I'm not sold this hire is the right hire. Sure it's going to get the fanbase excited, and sell tickets, but it won't win any ire games than culley won.

Defensive coaches aren't the way to go in 2023. One defensive minded coach was in the playoffs this year, and IF, you have a good OC they will be hired away, which isn't good for the development of your rookie qb.

If you hire an offensive minded HC, the offensive scheme is retained.
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Ah, there it is. The why behind the why. The Pep thing is just the door to how you really feel.

ETA - there's nothing wrong with your opinion on an offensive minded coach vs a defensive one, especially in a QB league. I get it.
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redag06 said:

As it should be, pep should've been fired with culley.


But I'm not sold this hire is the right hire. Sure it's going to get the fanbase excited, and sell tickets, but it won't win any ire games than culley won.

Defensive coaches aren't the way to go in 2023. One defensive minded coach was in the playoffs this year, and IF, you have a good OC they will be hired away, which isn't good for the development of your rookie qb.

If you hire an offensive minded HC, the offensive scheme is retained.

Who were all the defensive coaches in the NFL?

McDermott (playoffs)
Belichick
Carroll (playoffs)
Tomlin
Rivera
Staley
Vrabel
Saleh
Bowles (playoffs)
Lovie
Rhule

All but 3 have been good as NFL HCs. The only two who were truly bad this year were Lovie and Rhule.
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Ryans is a good hire, but there are concerns.

as previously mentioned...defensive-minded coaches & young QB's...is not the current trend in the NFL. That formula / combo has failed a lot recently. (Saleh, Flores, Staley, et al) The league is all about offense now. Maybe DeMeco can buck the trend and make it work with a young QB.

also this feels like a little bit of an internal hire. And the problem with internal hires...they automatically limit the field of candidates. Generally speaking internal hires are preferred when an organization is doing well / performing well. Go with an external hire when the organization needs a makeover. Hopefully Ryans brings more 49er with him than Texan

Ryan34
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Saleh has not been a failure and Flores definitely wasn't either. Neither has Staley. Just so much wrong.
Ag_07
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This is anything but an internal hire

Like I've said Demeco may fall flat on his ass and be an awful HC. But this search was a thorough wide search where they brought in multiple high quality coaches for multiple interviews.

At the end of the day they ended up with arguably the best candidate on the market who multiple teams wanted.

That's all I can ask for. They can't look into the crystal ball and see what he'll do in the future. But they did the due diligence the right way and hired who they think is the best guy.

That's what the good organizations do and it's a great first step to getting this thing back on the tracks.
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Seems like everyone has a side here but all I care about is the OC at this point. This needs to be a young-ish staff with guys that have been coaching and mentored with good coaches.

I fully expect year 3 to be a playoff year or at least be hanging around at the end of the year. Anything more than that is a gift.

Things will get better but, let's not dump on him just because he's a defensive coach. Plenty of great coaches are defensive guys.
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He is not just a defense minded coach. His defense was the best in the NFL. And almost the best last year too. It was
So good that Purdy took them to the NFC Championship
Game.

Defensive minded coaches include Belecheck, all 3
Steeler coaches since the merger, Tom Landry, Nick Saban etc They have done well. Demeco will too.
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Great coaches are great, but they are nothing without talent. San Fran built a monster defense with 1st round picks and Saleh and DeMeco capitalized and excelled with it.

DeMeco has all the potential to be a great head coach. Nick needs to get him sustainable talent too.

I'm excited for the future for the first time in a while. Great move for all parties
Max Power
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Getting started early.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/31/texans-request-permission-to-interview-bobby-slowik/

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/31/report-texans-request-permission-to-interview-troy-walters-for-offensive-coordinator/

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Yea I've been extremely apathetic towards the team for several years. It's hard enough for me to be emotional invested in professional sports anymore, much less this franchise the past few years. Call me a fair-weather fan, I don't really care, but it's certainly more than just a bad W-L record in recent history.

I'm back in, really excited about DeMeco. Hopefully an injection of life back into the team, and of course, really hoping he succeeds. For him and the franchise.
IrishAg
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Max Power said:

Getting started early.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/31/texans-request-permission-to-interview-bobby-slowik/

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/31/report-texans-request-permission-to-interview-troy-walters-for-offensive-coordinator/


We're are gonna be young on that staff, but I'm happy bringing the 49ers or the Cincinnati offense with DeMeco.

Looking at Troy Walters, we know him from his WR coaching days



But he has had a quick rise and has been part of a Cincinnati since 2020 with Zach Taylor, who everyone thought was in over his head (so he has experience with how coaches deal with sudden pressure and have success)

Looking at Bobby Slowik, man that is even more trust for someone who didn't even start on the offensive side of coaching



He is like DeMeco and is very young (only 35), Walters has a crazy amount of experience in comparison. I wonder if we could some how get both?
Ag_07
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I really like what Dan Campbell has done in DET in assembling a staff of former players who are competitive AF and want to win.

I wouldn't mind seeing Demeco build a staff similar to that full of young fiery guys who can relate to the players and get the most they can out of them. But I think he does need a couple seasoned vets possibly guys who have had HC gigs in the past who he can lean on.

I know it's sort of a getting the band back together which I'm not typically a fan of but Gary Kubiak as an offensive consultant or pass game coordinator or role something like that would be a phenomenal hire for his staff.
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Ag_07 said:

Like I've said Demeco may fall flat on his ass and be an awful HC. But this search was a thorough wide search where they brought in multiple high quality coaches for multiple interviews.

At the end of the day they ended up with arguably the best candidate on the market who multiple teams wanted.
In the NFL, there's the "right" way to do things and there's the "Texans" way to do things. This hire is the first thing the Texans have done in the non-Texans way in a long time.
IrishAg
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So 49er free agents on the defensive side of the ball:

S Jimmie Ward
LB Azeez Al-Shaair
DL Charles Omenihu
DL Jordan Willis
CB Emmanuel Moseley

I could see us going after Jimmie Ward to help be an on the field coach to get everyone in the correct spot. He would be pricey, but he would be a good get for 3 or so years to help with the long term transition to DeMeco's defense.

Thoughts?
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IrishAg said:

So 49er free agents on the defensive side of the ball:

S Jimmie Ward
LB Azeez Al-Shaair
DL Charles Omenihu
DL Jordan Willis
CB Emmanuel Moseley

I could see us going after Jimmie Ward to help be an on the field coach to get everyone in the correct spot. He would be pricey, but he would be a good get for 3 or so years to help with the long term transition to DeMeco's defense.

Thoughts?
Omenihu was arrested for domestic violence within the last two weeks so we might want to steer clear of him coming back to Houston, but Jimmie Ward would be a good addition.
BillYeoman
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Any chance DR brings Klay Kubiak with him from San Fran?
IrishAg
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BillYeoman said:

Any chance DR brings Klay Kubiak with him from San Fran?

There are some rumors about Klay coming as a QB coach, but I bet it would depend on who gets the OC spot

IrishAg
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Also, more food for thought, it looks like Jimmy G is definitely leaving San Fran this offseason. I wonder if he's someone we sign to a short team deal if we go the route of bringing the San Fran offense over? He would be a good stop gap for a year or 2 who could actually hep install the offense while we build talent, then we could grab a QB to move forward.
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IrishAg said:

Also, more food for thought, it looks like Jimmy G is definitely leaving San Fran this offseason. I wonder if he's someone we sign to a short team deal if we go the route of bringing the San Fran offense over? He would be a good stop gap for a year or 2 who could actually hep install the offense while we build talent, then we could grab a QB to move forward.


That would make a lot of sense
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