*******The Official Houston Texans 2022: AW Thread************

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W said:

one amazing thing about the Chiefs...they play so well during the regular season and seldom get upset or no show a game.

that's why Mahomes in 6 years...has never played in a road playoff game.

this Sunday will be his 14th career playoff game --- all at home or neutral site (Super Bowl)
Damn, I didn't know that one, and it's a pretty crazy stat.
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https://twitter.com/NFLRookieWatxh/status/1622381645604032513?s=20&t=PwfgO6tYStr_P****YZOpQ



Damn, that is a stat right there


EDIT, adding a picture because the random letters form a word that is getting filtered in the URL and not allowing it to auto load the tweet
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Stuff like this is why I'm not 100% sold that Houston will draft a QB. I'm still 90% there but Carter and Anderson are game wreckers that offensive coordinators will have to plan for on day one. That being said, I still want Bryce Young, but if it doesn't work out they don't have to view this as a situation where it's a total loss if they don't land him. I wouldn't be surprised if their draft board has Young at 1 and a guy like Anderson as their no 2 prospect.
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I saw that Lance Zierlein had Jalin Hyatt mocked to us at #12. I've been thinking about it, and it makes a ton of sense. He's an absolute burner, and is a deep threat anytime he's in the game. Think of Will Fuller, but with better hands. My guess is that he's going to shoot up the draft board once people see his 40-time.

Assuming Metchie is healthy and Cooks is traded, we would have 3 starting receivers with varying skill sets:

Big, physical receiver: Nico Collins
Slot, route specialist: John Metchie
Speedy, deep threat: Jalin Hyatt

I think he would be a perfect fit for this WR corps. Pair him with a rookie QB, and things could get exciting. Bryce Young would be great, but the thought of Anthony Richardson uncorking effortless deep bombs to Hyatt would be borderline erotic (although it would be an extremely risky pick at #2). Watch the highlights of Hyatt getting wide open downfield, and then watch highlights of Richardson's bazooka, and tell me I'm wrong lol
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Nico most likely only play half the season based on his injury history
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Man Brandin Cooks is such an enigma for me.

On one hand I think he's a cry baby bltch and a locker room cancer who quit on his team because his butt buddy Easterby finally got canned.

On the other hand he's a pretty good veteran WR who Demeco and staff could say 'Hey we're here and we want to start off with a clean slate' and convince him to be an asset to a young team who's offense will be improved.

We shall see I guess.
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Bobby Jimbo said:

Think of Will Fuller, but with better hands.
Please don't make me think about Will Fuller.

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"but with better hands" is the key there. He has the speed to get open like Will Fuller.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Bobby Jimbo said:

Think of Will Fuller, but with better hands.
Please don't make me think about Will Fuller.



Or Deshaun for that matter

Those throws are impressive.
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Ags #1 said:

Nico most likely only play half the season based on his injury history
If Nico isn't good enough, you could go after Mike Evans to fill that role.
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Bobby Jimbo said:

I saw that Lance Zierlein had Jalin Hyatt mocked to us at #12. I've been thinking about it, and it makes a ton of sense. He's an absolute burner, and is a deep threat anytime he's in the game. Think of Will Fuller, but with better hands. My guess is that he's going to shoot up the draft board once people see his 40-time.

Assuming Metchie is healthy and Cooks is traded, we would have 3 starting receivers with varying skill sets:

Big, physical receiver: Nico Collins
Slot, route specialist: John Metchie
Speedy, deep threat: Jalin Hyatt

I think he would be a perfect fit for this WR corps. Pair him with a rookie QB, and things could get exciting. Bryce Young would be great, but the thought of Anthony Richardson uncorking effortless deep bombs to Hyatt would be borderline erotic (although it would be an extremely risky pick at #2). Watch the highlights of Hyatt getting wide open downfield, and then watch highlights of Richardson's bazooka, and tell me I'm wrong lol


I've seen Hyatt more at the bottom of the first round. But, who knows.
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IrishAg said:

https://twitter.com/NFLRookieWatxh/status/1622381645604032513?s=20&t=PwfgO6tYStr_P****YZOpQ



Damn, that is a stat right there


EDIT, adding a picture because the random letters form a word that is getting filtered in the URL and not allowing it to auto load the tweet
He's my preference right now. We need a playmaker and he seems like the most likely to be a hot. I'm hoping the Bears trade down to a QB needy team because that both leaves Anderson for us and presumably takes the QB we'd prefer off the board.
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I don't see any WR worth taking at 12. Top of the second looks like better value and fits with Caserio's MO. I could see us trade down from 12 and getting a WR later in the first. If we stay at 12 I'm hoping either a QB that slips or BPA. I'm seeing Cam Smith slip down mocks with a bunch of QBs going top 10. Getting Payne in free agency with Anderson and Smith would be a monster offseason.
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IrishAg said:

https://twitter.com/NFLRookieWatxh/status/1622381645604032513?s=20&t=PwfgO6tYStr_P****YZOpQ



Damn, that is a stat right there


EDIT, adding a picture because the random letters form a word that is getting filtered in the URL and not allowing it to auto load the tweet
Good thing we have the #1 pick so we can take whoever we want ... oh wait
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Didn't you hear? Pick 2 is the same as pick 1.
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Sea Speed said:

Didn't you hear? Pick 2 is the same as pick 1.
this still pisses me off that Bilbo and his Texan buddies actually believe that bull***** and we wonder why the Texans organization has been run like crap here lately....
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AustinCountyAg said:

Sea Speed said:

Didn't you hear? Pick 2 is the same as pick 1.
this still pisses me off that Bilbo and his Texan buddies actually believe that bull***** and we wonder why the Texans organization has been run like crap here lately....
That was a bizarre few hours on this thread.
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AustinCountyAg said:

Sea Speed said:

Didn't you hear? Pick 2 is the same as pick 1.
this still pisses me off that Bilbo and his Texan buddies actually believe that bull***** and we wonder why the Texans organization has been run like crap here lately....
The number two pick isn't the same as the number one pick, BUT you can't plan to lose a game, either. Coaches and players aren't wired that way. I hated that "win" as much as anybody, but it shouldn't have happened. We shouldn't have converted on 4th and long. The Indy defender should have picked off that pass instead of letting it slip through his hands. I wish that Lovie would have had the same lack of guts he had in the first game and tried to tie it up as opposed to going for the win, but Indy should have stopped them on the two-point conversion. Indy played poorly on that final drive, and we took ourselves out of the first pick. It sucks and feels like something only the Oilers or Texans could do, but it happened.

We'll see how the draft pans out. This might end up being a 30 for 30 one day. If the Texans and Colts end up coveting the same quarterback, and the Colts are able to trade to 1 and land that guy and he ends up being the man, this will be a long storyline in NFL history.

Helps that there doesn't seem to be a consensus on who the best QB is, or that there even is an elite QB in this draft. I like Bryce Young, but I like the idea of betting on Richardson's upside if Colts trade up to get Young.

Anything but Levis.
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Snake Jazz said:




Anything but Levis.


Levis would be a classic Easterby pick. Pedestrian stats but everyone raves about his character in spite of the numbers failure to back him up as a first round pick. Having watched some Florida games I can at least get behind Richardson's potential. Levis feels like Jake Locker all over again.

The combine to me is fascinating almost for the measurables alone on the QBs. I'm really curious what Young's official weight comes in at. Does he come in at 190+ pounds or closer to 180? I also think that once those QBs are in the room with the scouts Richardson's size is going to jump out at everyone. He's a big guy, putting him next to Young could definitely have teams jumping off the Young bandwagon and onto Richardson's.

I listened to the First Draft podcast with Kiper and McShay yesterday and it sounds like the Senior Bowl was pretty light on talent this year compared to other years. One guy they were both big on was O'Cyrus Torrence from Florida, he'd be a great pickup for the o-line. I don't know if they'd consider him at 12 but if he's there in the second they should just run to the podium for him. They were also big on Keion White, DL from Georgia Tech.
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Snake Jazz said:

AustinCountyAg said:

Sea Speed said:

Didn't you hear? Pick 2 is the same as pick 1.
this still pisses me off that Bilbo and his Texan buddies actually believe that bull***** and we wonder why the Texans organization has been run like crap here lately....
The number two pick isn't the same as the number one pick, BUT you can't plan to lose a game, either. Coaches and players aren't wired that way. I hated that "win" as much as anybody, but it shouldn't have happened. We shouldn't have converted on 4th and long. The Indy defender should have picked off that pass instead of letting it slip through his hands. I wish that Lovie would have had the same lack of guts he had in the first game and tried to tie it up as opposed to going for the win, but Indy should have stopped them on the two-point conversion. Indy played poorly on that final drive, and we took ourselves out of the first pick. It sucks and feels like something only the Oilers or Texans could do, but it happened.

We'll see how the draft pans out. This might end up being a 30 for 30 one day. If the Texans and Colts end up coveting the same quarterback, and the Colts are able to trade to 1 and land that guy and he ends up being the man, this will be a long storyline in NFL history.

Helps that there doesn't seem to be a consensus on who the best QB is, or that there even is an elite QB in this draft. I like Bryce Young, but I like the idea of betting on Richardson's upside if Colts trade up to get Young.

Anything but Levis.
well you dont have to take a QB with the #1 pick. You can take the clear best player which many seem to think Anderson is, and then you can take a QB with a different pick.

But then again #1 pick vs #2 pick is no difference so it doesn't matter according to Texans front office.
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Max Power said:

Snake Jazz said:




Anything but Levis.


Levis would be a classic Easterby pick. Pedestrian stats but everyone raves about his character in spite of the numbers failure to back him up as a first round pick. Having watched some Florida games I can at least get behind Richardson's potential. Levis feels like Jake Locker all over again.

The combine to me is fascinating almost for the measurables alone on the QBs. I'm really curious what Young's official weight comes in at. Does he come in at 190+ pounds or closer to 180? I also think that once those QBs are in the room with the scouts Richardson's size is going to jump out at everyone. He's a big guy, putting him next to Young could definitely have teams jumping off the Young bandwagon and onto Richardson's.

I listened to the First Draft podcast with Kiper and McShay yesterday and it sounds like the Senior Bowl was pretty light on talent this year compared to other years. One guy they were both big on was O'Cyrus Torrence from Florida, he'd be a great pickup for the o-line. I don't know if they'd consider him at 12 but if he's there in the second they should just run to the podium for him. They were also big on Keion White, DL from Georgia Tech.
Agree completely on the Levis thoughts. He has a good to almost great arm, but he gets a big pass on his stats because he's at Kentucky and in the SEC, but the team has played at the same level over the last 5 years with and without him, so I don't buy putting his issues on Kentucky.

I think it's a tough year for scouting at the senior bowl and probably in general because there are so many super seniors there. The majority of players aren't going to surprise anyone, because they've been playing for so long that you really do know what you're going to get. So Kiper and McShay look at who pops when talking about talent, and I doubt hardly anyone popped compared to their tape.
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If Indy trades up with Chicago for pick 1 they will be giving up a lot of picks or maybe a player and picks like
Pittman or Taylor. I don't think any of these QBs are top 10 QBs in the NFL except maybe Richardson.

I think the Bears will stay at 1 because 4 is too low to get Will Anderson. All of this is dependent on where the veteran QBs end up. Rodgers, Carr, Jimmy G, could all land somewhere that changes the draft needs of Houston, Indy, LV, NO and Carolina.

I'm sure Demeco would love to land two top Defensive players with picks 2 and 12 or whatever we end up with after trades.
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I just hope they don't overthink it and mess it up. Will Anderson should be our first pick and move forward.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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LB12Diamond said:

I just hope they don't overthink it and mess it up. Will Anderson should be our first pick and move forward.

I think he goes #1. I'm skeptical Chicago is able to move the pick.
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LincolnBorglum79 said:

If Indy trades up with Chicago for pick 1 they will be giving up a lot of picks or maybe a player and picks like
Pittman or Taylor. I don't think any of these QBs are top 10 QBs in the NFL except maybe Richardson.

I think the Bears will stay at 1 because 4 is too low to get Will Anderson. All of this is dependent on where the veteran QBs end up. Rodgers, Carr, Jimmy G, could all land somewhere that changes the draft needs of Houston, Indy, LV, NO and Carolina.

I'm sure Demeco would love to land two top Defensive players with picks 2 and 12 or whatever we end up with after trades.
I think Chicago 100% should ask for players and not just picks if Indy engages them. Chicago needs to surround Fields with the best personnel possible to keep helping him improve. Indy might be very happy to send picks to move up but what about giving up someone like Quenton Nelson? Even though they're drafting at no 1 they're in a weird spot because of Fields and their inability to build around him. They're headed in the wrong direction with a young QB.

2021 - Original draft position 20, traded up to 11 with the Giants to take Fields.
2022 - Draft position 7, sent to the Giants as part of the Fields trade.
2023 - No 1 overall

If I'm the Chicago GM and Indy calls I tell them, we'll trade you No 1 for No 4 + Nelson because they need o-line help as much as any team in the NFL does. Picks always represent potential, you don't know if they'll hit. Taking a guy as a part of the trade that is already a hit would be a net positive for them.
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HA! So did another simulated mock draft, and I got screwed on a QB after the second trade down. Anderson went 1st to Chicago, Detroit gave me a good trade so I skipped Young who went to Indy. Carolina, Oakland, and Atlanta took the other 3 QBs as I tried to roll the dice on another trade. So I tried to make the best of it and went a bit overboard on the number of players selected

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Don't trade. Pick between Anderson and Bryce. I value Anderson more because he's ready to go, but you have to take Bryce if he's there.

Maybe the Texans can entertain trades once they pick him. I feel he's Tua - too slight for the NFL pounding. Very skilled but I fear he just won't stay healthy.

Take Anderson this year and somehow get Fatheree next year. Lol.
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I think it is hard for a young QB to lead when everybody knows the head coach is a holding cell. DeMeco has staying power and is the leader, and if he puts energy into Mills, Mills may be better suited to lead under him than the other coaches. If we want Dalton, Mills is a cheaper version and go sign a Josh McCown type to sit in the locker room at #3.

I don't know we take a QB in this draft. I think building a solid team with DeMeco is someone that could pluck away a veteran QB looking for a playoff run a la Stafford, Brady, etc.
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I DO NOT like Levis but I will say he was hurt pretty much all year this year (foot, hand and shoulder). Most scouts think it impacted his performance and are giving him props for toughing it out. He is also not just an arm guy has he brings some mobility. If you made me choose option a) of Young at 2 plus BPA at 12 or b) Anderson at 2 and Levis at 12 I'd go with option b). I think Anderson is that special and I'm willing to bet on Levis traits with a mid first.
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No to Levis…no no no
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From the heavens again please. He's inaccurate and prone to injury. His arm strength might be the best in the class but he has proven nothing other than being an adequate qb in the SEC and having the right size.
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Richardson has the best arm strength.
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aka 49ers boombox guy

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No andre
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He probably got screwed by Ronde Barber taking 2 spots.
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