If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.

Aust Ag said:

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If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.

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Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

Rivers is 44 years old

he had 6 seasons of 30+ TD passes

9 seasons of 28+ TD passes

might get in the Hall because of his 2 shocking playoff upsets of vintage Peyton Manning Colts teams

Rivers is going to get physically destroyed.

Reflexes of a 44 year old who hasn't played in 5 years. So he will be late to reads and throws. He will have no touch on a pass. He's a torn Achilles/torn ACL waiting to happen just on the non contact side. He will get driven into the turf and his body won't know how to land or turn because it's 5 years out of practice and slow.

This just makes no sense.

I think the Colts should put Pittman at QB, Tyler Warren at FB, and run the option .

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Aust Ag said:

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If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.

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Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

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I think he might be the dictionary definition of Hall of Very Good

Almost forgot in the sheer goodness of Sunday night that there was Bingo update to report.

B-Rabbit and WES2006AG each got another square for successfully picking the Texans to go 2-2 on national TV this year.

This propelled B-Rabbit into a tie for first with KidDoc at 7 squares each.
It was #5 for WES2006AG.

If you picked Dalton Schultz +575 yards, things are looking good as he is currently at 574.

Other categories also ahead of pace are:
(Current/Pace/Square)
Team Wins: 8/10/9.5
Nico receptions: 61/80/80
Nico receiving yards: 916/1,198/1,100
Team interceptions: 15/20/19
Devon Achane total TDs: 11/14/12

Jared Goff is now running away with the passing yards category and passing TDs as well.
Bijan and Derrick Henry are locked into the RB yards. Bijan is up by just 46. Gibbs has 13 TD, Henry has 10.

Jamaar Chase is now 205 yards ahead of Jefferson in receiving yards.

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Aust Ag said:

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If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.

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Is Rivers even HOF worthy?


And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

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More passing yards than Marino and Stafford.

Pro-football reference has the same sort of HOF indicator that baseball-reference.com has.

It has him at 98.06 with the average HOF QB at a rating of 108. That rating is based on championships, first-team all pro selections, Pro Bowl selections, years as a starter, weighted career approximate value, games, games started, completions, attempts, yards, TD passes, longest past, sacks and INTs.

Only two guys - Brady and Manning - are above 200, with Rodgers at 199.

The only guys above 100 not in the Hall are guy who have retired in the last 5 years and aren't eligible yet - Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, and Ben Roethlisberger.

Mahomes is at 102.13. Rivers is the top guy under 100. Plenty of guys under his ranking are in there. Jim Kelly is only at 59.10; Aikman at 64.28.

And now, some funny ones.
DeShaun Watson: 25.88 - lower on the list than Bobby Hebert (27.15)
David Carr, 14.80 - just ahead of Blake Bortles at 14.73.
Vince Young did slightly better here than on the Wunderlic, with a 12.00. He is .02 points ahead of RG III, who is .03 points ahead of Bubby Brister, who is .02 points ahead of Justin Fields.

You have to have a minimum of 50 games to make the list. Terrell Pryor checks is at #248 with a rating of 0.50.





A great time waster: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

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Who’s Had the Easiest Schedule So Far?

1. NE
2. DEN
3. DAL
4. CHI
5. LAC pic.twitter.com/XNO2SL0A61

— SFdata9ers🏈📊 (@sfdata9ers) December 9, 2025

I thought the Pats "easy schedule" was being blown out of proportion, but check this out. And then look at Texans

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Don't put a lot in to these, since I think if the titans played the Pats schedule they would still only have 2-3 wins.

You can only play the schedule you are given, and its the NFL Any Given Sunday

Very true, plus this is just how the league works. Some of our best seasons have been when we played a last place schedule

the AFC East drew the AFC North and NFC South this year -- those are the divisions you wanted for 2025

plus the Patriots' 5th NFC opponent was the Giants (2-11)

It's hard to imagine the Patriots are 11-2 but lost to the Raiders.

I still don't expect this to end well but this is interesting and probably explains the signing. Probably not a lot of December QB street free agents that already know the offense.

Fun Fact learned in production meetings:

Philip Rivers ran the same offense as the Colts for his son Gunnar’s HS team this season.

He and Shane Steichen spoke weekly about it, discussing plays and even film.

So familiarity with the scheme should be no problem whatsoever.

— JJ Watt (@JJWatt) December 9, 2025

canadiaggie said:

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Ag_07 said:

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Aust Ag said:

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If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.

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Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

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I think he might be the dictionary definition of Hall of Very Good

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I'm not sure how he makes it. He's Top 7 all time in passing yards (63.4k in 16 seasons ) and Top 6 in TDs (421). That's more TDs and over 2k more yards than Marino had in the same 16 seasons.

He had about 23,000 more yards and 138 more TD passes than Montana had in 15 years, who had the best WR of all time in Jerry Rice as his rickshaw. Amusingly Rivers (64.9%) was also more accurate than Montana (63.2%).

He's thrown for more TDs, a better completion %, and just under 600 less yards in one less season than Big Ben.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_td_career.htm

As long as you don't take into account the numbers or supporting cast he's ok I guess.

Just being a QB on a winning team is all that used to matter. Terry Bradshaw had Franco as a RB, Lynn Swann as WR, and had a career passing % of 51.9 over 13 years. That's Anthony Richardson bad. Vince Young is embarrassed by that.

That's 187th best out of 215 QBs ever who lasted 10 years in the NFL, but in the bottom 28 QBs' defense only 4 of them started the same year or later as TB.

HOF though.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm

All that's to say Rivers has an argument.

Interesting career comparsion from Pro Football Reference:
Player HOFm Chmp AP1 PB St From To wAV G GS Cmp Att Yds TD Lng Int Sk Yds
A 98.56 0 0 8 15 2004 2020 149 244 240 5277 8134 (64.9%) 63440 421 84 209 464 2832
B 87.01 1 0 2 15 2009 2025 126 235 235 5462 8598 (63.5%) 63163 412 88 192 519 3479

(I bolded completion percentage, yards, TDs, and INTs.)

Player A is Philip Rivers. B is Matthew Stafford, who if you had asked me without the stats in front of me, I'd say will probably get into the Hall of Fame.

Of course, Stafford can still add to his resume (and is having a great season, where he'll very likely pass Rivers in yards and TDs). All this to say... I never really thought of Rivers as HoF-caliber (the dreaded "hall of very good"), but the numbers make a case for consideration. The one thing Stafford has over him is a Super Bowl ring.

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The one thing Stafford has over him is a Super Bowl ring.

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you state this before Old Man Rivers makes his return in week 15 of the 2025 season. Wait.

Rivers was also popular with the media

and had the reputation as a gunslinger

people like that

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Interesting career comparsion from Pro Football Reference:
Player HOFm Chmp AP1 PB St From To wAV G GS Cmp Att Yds TD Lng Int Sk Yds
A 98.56 0 0 8 15 2004 2020 149 244 240 5277 8134 (64.9%) 63440 421 84 209 464 2832
B 87.01 1 0 2 15 2009 2025 126 235 235 5462 8598 (63.5%) 63163 412 88 192 519 3479

(I bolded completion percentage, yards, TDs, and INTs.)

Player A is Philip Rivers. B is Matthew Stafford, who if you had asked me without the stats in front of me, I'd say will probably get into the Hall of Fame.

Of course, Stafford can still add to his resume (and is having a great season, where he'll very likely pass Rivers in yards and TDs). All this to say... I never really thought of Rivers as HoF-caliber (the dreaded "hall of very good"), but the numbers make a case for consideration. The one thing Stafford has over him is a Super Bowl ring.

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Rivers has arguably better numbers than Big Ben, who's a slam dunk for the HOF. At worst he may sweat it a year or two like Andre Johnson as the penalty for being excellent on teams that were not.

Big Ben is one of the few QBs to win multiple SB rings.

Rivers doesn't have one.

That's why Big Ben is a shoe-in and Rivers is questionable.

No doubt as to the rings giving a power up. That's why Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF notwithstanding having a 51% completion rate. Bottom 15% of his 215 peers - the vast majority of which aren't in the HOF.

He threw over 20 picks 5 times in 13 seasons (with a sweet stretch of 46 interceptions in 21 games started). Jameis Winston has thrown almost 100 less picks.

But Bradshaw played on a team that won 4 rings.
(I'm having a lot of fun with the Bradshaw stuff even if it was me that brought it up.)

Still I think Rivers' superlative numbers (even better than Andre's at WR) will prove true.

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OK, I can give credit to anyone who has the self awareness to take a moment where, as someone who is in power, he could have gotten so pissed off but instead owned it in some awesome self-deprecating humor. This is hilarious, and kudos to Cal McNair.

#TEXANS OWNER CAL MCNAIR WITH ONE OF THE FUNNIEST TIKTOKS OF ALL TIME AFTER CJ STROUD IGNORED HIM.

🤣🤣🤣

CRYING OF LAUGHTER WATCHING THIS. HE DID THIS ALL DAY LONG.
pic.twitter.com/3VxArKxEQm

— MLFootball (@MLFootball) December 11, 2025

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Need more TikToks with the blonde receptionist.

Heading to the game tomorrow for the first time since the Schaub/Kubiak era.