***Boys v Vikings***

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When does the Eberflus experiment end?

Got carved up by the worst QB in the league.
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Tergdor said:

When does the Eberflus experiment end?

Got carved up by the worst QB in the league.

Should have been over early into this season. Or really never started
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The OL is taking it up the ass and they keep putting a tiny RB in to get run over in pass pro
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DannyDuberstein said:

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Short of the sticks. This team is dumb

He miracously avoided the sack and found the only person he knew would be open without being able to take thr time to look downfield.
Thats not a route being ran short of the sticks , lol

I'm talking about the receiver. You can't come back short, you need some awareness on where to try to shake loose

Its the running back leaking out of the backfield as an outlet. He didn't "come back short'
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Horrendous play call on 4th. The RB was the only route that developed within 4 seconds and it was run short of the sticks.
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DannyDuberstein said:

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

How do you retain Eberfool after this year?


There aren't any coordinators that could field a good NFL defense with this personnel. We just can't cover anyone on the back end, everyone is a rookie, hurt or terrible.

He'll be fired a a scapegoat but the onus is on the organization obtaining better players otherwise it won't matter.


When you have a shaky roster, the onus is on the organization to hire a guy whose philosophy is a better fit to maximize what you do have vs pounding square pegs into round holes and exacerbating your weaknesses


If I put four of us on this board in an NFL secondary, what scheme can be run to allow for success?

Now obviously that's an absurd extreme but it illustrates the point that at some point, your personnel can be bad enough that it no longer matter what you try to do. Our secondary is that bad. Donovan Wilson is the worst safety in coverage in the NFL. Hooker has been declining for two years now. Carson and Steward aren't NFL players. Revel is a rookie coming off a torn ACL. Bland is playing by far the worst football of his career and is giving up plays in every coverage he's asked to attempt.

Get better players or the new guy will be just as bad next year
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"The defense has been so good since [Quinnen Williams] was traded to Dallas."

Cris, WTF are you smoking up there in the booth? Are you even watching this game.
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Kashchei said:

"The defense has been so good since [Quinnen Williams] was traded to Dallas."

Cris, WTF are you smoking up there in the booth? Are you even watching this game.
I thought he said he has been so good since he came to Dallas
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And why do you suppose that at least 3 guys on our defense are having their worst seasons ever!?!
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Rex Racer said:

Kashchei said:

"The defense has been so good since [Quinnen Williams] was traded to Dallas."

Cris, WTF are you smoking up there in the booth? Are you even watching this game.
I thought he said he has been so good since he came to Dallas

You are right
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jr15aggie said:

And why do you suppose that at least 3 guys on our defense are having their worst seasons ever!?!

Don't waste your time with that dude…

He thinks he's an expert on everything…
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jr15aggie said:

And why do you suppose that at least 3 guys on our defense are having their worst seasons ever!?!


You'd have to specify the players for me to answer that.

If one of the guys you are asking out is Bland, he simply hasn't been the same player since those two left foot injuries. He doesn't run or plant and cut nearly as well. Hopefully he's back to his old self next year.
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4th and 1 and gains 4 right up the middle
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Bottom 3 QB and oline just bending them over and making them their *****.
jagged
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Maybe just maybe cover the A gap on 4th and 1.
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Game and playoffs done definitively now……Jones Family Fatigue is a real disease
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No idea if we can realistically fix this defense in one offseason.
Step 1 is fire the DC
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Infection_Ag11 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

How do you retain Eberfool after this year?


There aren't any coordinators that could field a good NFL defense with this personnel. We just can't cover anyone on the back end, everyone is a rookie, hurt or terrible.

He'll be fired a a scapegoat but the onus is on the organization obtaining better players otherwise it won't matter.


When you have a shaky roster, the onus is on the organization to hire a guy whose philosophy is a better fit to maximize what you do have vs pounding square pegs into round holes and exacerbating your weaknesses



If I put four of us on this board in an NFL secondary, what scheme can be run to allow for success?

Now obviously that's an absurd extreme but it illustrates the point that at some point, your personnel can be bad enough that it no longer matter what you try to do. Our secondary is that bad. Donovan Wilson is the worst safety in coverage in the NFL. Hooker has been declining for two years now. Carson and Steward aren't NFL players. Revel is a rookie coming off a torn ACL. Bland is playing by far the worst football of his career and is giving up plays in every coverage he's asked to attempt.

Get better players or the new guy will be just as bad next year



Current players equal 6 or 7 wins, they stink
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Aaron Jones... Running hard and fast through many Dallas holes since '23.
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Definitely wasnt clearly down on the replay, lol.
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PatAg said:

No idea if we can realistically fix this defense in one offseason.
Step 1 is fire the DC
Tag Pickens and trade him for a LB or edge that is worth a damn
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Either way, you gotta call a TO so may as well try the challenge
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PatAg said:

No idea if we can realistically fix this defense in one offseason.
Step 1 is fire the DC


Depends entirely on if Overshown gets back to what he was and whether the young guys playing a ton this year take a step. No, you can't fix this and have a good defense with personnel acquisition alone in one offseason. You can get a lot better and be average though.
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Our secondary is trash, but we let the opponents have the longest, cleanest pockets you'll probably ever see.
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The #1 aspect to get a little better is that most coaches with experience like Eberflus have a rolodex of cheap JAGs that know their system and can be passable. Particularly safeties and LBs which can be had for cheap and are currently killing this team. The won't make you good, but they can keep you from being a disaster. Putting a zone DC in with this secondary was begging for "how can I take something poor and make it as bad as it can possibly be"
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Maybe a blocked fg here?
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No doubt this guy is gonna nail this kick
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Infection_Ag11 said:

PatAg said:

No idea if we can realistically fix this defense in one offseason.
Step 1 is fire the DC


Depends entirely on if Overshown gets back to what he was and whether the young guys playing a ton this year take a step. No, you can't fix this and have a good defense with personnel acquisition alone in one offseason. You can get a lot better and be average though.

I would consider improving to average to be fixing the defense
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Depends on what your goals are. It's been a long time since a truly average defense won a title.
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Mingo!
jr15aggie
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Jonathan Mingo sighting.... That was a great use of a 4th rounder by Jerry when the league had already proved the guy couldn't play.
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Secondary sucks.
Linebackers suck.
Pass rushers suck.

So the defense is performing to the same level as the players.
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Schotty has fallen in love with FGs for a few weeks now
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Terrible
Kashchei
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Over 30 years and there's been one constant...
 
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