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Question for the Rancher types and anyone else in the know Beef tallow

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Wearer of the Ring
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So RFK is down on seed oils and beef tallow seems like a handy substitute.

Will this be good for the cattle business? Seems like it would.

Will this be bad for the grain business? Seems like it would.

So how might all this balance out from an overall agribusiness point of view?

Asks the guy whose only contact point with agribusiness is HEB.
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The biggest winner might be heirloom pigs/getting good tasting pork again - there's a farmer up here who only sells whole heirloom, free range pigs, and gets $10-15/pound. (Holy City Hogs)

Beef tallow works, but lard is better.
Max06
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Here's a good paper (long) on the seed oils. As for animal fats, beef tallow has a higher smoke point and is better for frying or savory dishes. Lard tends to be softer, lower saturated fat, milder flavor (better for sweets/pastries).

I don't think RFK's push will increase the demand for commercial beef or pork- the fats of both animals are utilized as byproducts and have been forever. Similar to soup bones/bone broth- the bones were always used/never went to waste, just in a different fashion now.

This will increase the demand for beef tallow & lard from small producers who direct-market their animals/give them an additional revenue stream.

One factor is that the animal fat must be processed/cooked down/refined rather than just slicing it off the carcass. They could either package/sell the fat scraps whole for consumer rendering, or process/render it on their own and sell it as a value-added product. Because it doesn't require refrigeration once processed, I don't think you would need anything other than compliance with Texas Cottage Law to render & sell.
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I've cut out seed oils almost completely and would say clarified butter -> butter -> schmaltz/lard -> then finally tallow. Its just too strongly flavored for most things not involving beef. I don't think you'll see enough increase in the demand curve to move the needle.

Keep in mind you'll also never get a significant number of people who have been brainwashed for decades to buy in as well as cost vs seed oils.
Bradley.Kohr.II
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Tallow, often, isn't cleaned enough.

We tried a commercial supply at work, and everything tasted "beefy."

The tallow from a local butcher works just fine.
SunrayAg
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Honestly I don't expect to see much change.

Cost will still be the driving factor. If vegetable and seed oils are significantly less expensive, most people will still use them.

Literally nobody is going to invest the time in to rendering their own tallow. Less than 1% of the population for sure.
Chetos
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Wait a minute… I was told in the 80's that these animal fats cause heart attacks… that and eggs
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I trim the fat off briskets and smoke it in a pan when I smoke briskets. Pour it in a jar with a lid and keep in the fridge although its not necessary.

Heavenly smoked flavor is the only way to describe cooking with it.
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My wife and I own a butcher shop and restaurant, and we see a lot of interest in tallow.

Now, how much of that is driven by RFK? Can't say, but I can say tallow can make a good dish great.

We render our own tallow and use it in everything that we need fay for. Pie crusts with tallow = fantastic.

We even make a whipped tallow balm for skin care that is awesome.

Go beef.
BurnetAggie99
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We use beef tallow, bacon grease, butter & Avocado oil.
80sGeorge
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Thanks for that. Very interesting although all I could manage was a skimming of it since it's a lot of chemistry for business major.

Found it interesting that Olive and even Avocado oil could be ok but most commercially available in the US are cut with cheaper bad oils like Sunflower. I guess it's the damn fancy/expensive certified/guaranteed Italian EVOO if you have to have one.

Here's what seemed to be the key data table from that. Pardon the phone screenshot


mpl35
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MDPI is heavily criticized in the research community for lack or rigorous peer review. They are basically junk.
Stan Crowch
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I use beef tallow for 90% of my cooking. It's a phenomenal cooking fat. I use both homemade and store bought. Fatworks and Epic are good for store bought.
will.mcg
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How do I buy from you?
will.mcg
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Is it a replacement for any other oils, butter, or crisco?
Stan Crowch
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It replaces any oil you would use for high heat cooking. The commercially available brands are typically pretty well deodorized and I don't notice an overt beefy flavor. When I render tallow at home it's much beefier but I don't mind it.
Stan Crowch
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This is at Costco. The demand is real.
Tx95Ag
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Been using butter and beef tallow for a few years now. We do still use some olive oil.

We render a big batch about once a year. If you do a good job cleaning it there is almost no beef flavor. Since we rarely fry anything it lasts a long time.
agfan2013
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I think Max is spot on here. Likely not much will change on the commercial side, but it may help out the small direct to consumer ranchers in the local markets.

Remember that everything is highly politicized now and there were 75 million people who didn't vote for the guy that hired RFK, so you'll likely have some people from that side that are against doing anything he recommends just because he's tied to Trump. Also, looking at the overweight problem this country has, I don't know that too many people really care or watch what they're eating, as long as it tastes good.

That all being said I highly recommend anyone who bbqs to look into making their own. I started probably 5-6 years ago taking most of the fat I trimmed from the briskets I cook and rendering it into tallow. We use it all the time in cooking now and always have a jar or two of it around since I bbq a fairly decent amount.
spud1910
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I did it for the first time with brisket trimmings after reading this thread. Used it this weekend instead of bacon grease when I made chili. Good stuff.
Pearl2010
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The easiest way is to find us on the Facebook our shop name is Bebo's Butchery and Bistro. We are located in Montalba, TX near Palestine, TX. If you are not near here, we do ship our stuff out.

Give us a call and we would be glad to visit with you about it.
Bradley.Kohr.II
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If you do get some beefy stuff, it's fairly simple to wash in a crock pot, just tedious.
schwack schwack
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Quote:

Bebo's Butchery and Bistro

Highly recommend.
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