txags92 said:

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Touchless said:

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maddiedou said:

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If that is F250 and it is buried at least 4-5 feet there is no way they will ever find everybody

I did not realize so much rock was in the flood waters

Can somebody explain to me how the truck is buried that deep and yet it looks like the men are standing on the same elevation of land before the flood Does this make sense my question that I am asking

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The level of rock surprised me as well, but really shouldn't have. Just had never thought of it before. I don't know that the riverbed or surrounding banks are the same elevation as they were previously, but if they are, or even close to it, then I'd assume the soil/rocks that were there were washed down stream and replaced with other rock from further up stream as the flooding slowed.

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If you ever watch videos of flash floods coming down into the desert from the mountains out in Arizona and New Mexico, you will see relatively small scale floods moving fast can roll incredibly large boulders down the arroyo. This was WAY more water than a typical flash flood you would see out west.

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We had a place near Barksdale that had five low water crossing from the county road to our place. Usually dry, or a half inch to two inches of water in them. One year, the county (or someone) had left some equipment just off the road on the little "beach" area that was bone dry. A fair amount of rain fell, I want to think it was in the 6" or so neighborhood, but the crossing was fairly narrow and all the rushing water pushed a maintainer 50 or 70 yards downstream. The power of fast moving water is insane.

So I was at camp at the beginning of the 78 flood and when we went back in 79 there was an incredible amount of bowling ball and smaller rocks strewn across 2 football fields that had been brush and grasses along the banks of the Guadalupe at La Junta.

I also lost a house in the New Braunfels flood of 98. The power of water is amazing, peeled the linoleum of the concrete, lifted 3 houses and stacked them neatly in one pile 30ft high,(ours was the middle one) sheered huge 5 ft across pecan tree about 3 ft off the ground almost a clean cut, bent a 4" steel I beam into a hook skewering our boat. Just incredible power!

mccjames said:

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So I was at camp at the beginning of the 78 flood and when we went back in 79 there was an incredible amount of bowling ball and smaller rocks strewn across 2 football fields that had been brush and grasses along the banks of the Guadalupe at La Junta.

I also lost a house in the New Braunfels flood of 98. The power of water is amazing, peeled the linoleum of the concrete, lifted 3 houses and stacked them neatly in one pile 30ft high,(ours was the middle one) sheered huge 5 ft across pecan tree about 3 ft off the ground almost a clean cut, bent a 4" steel I beam into a hook skewering our boat. Just incredible power!

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I was amazed watching one video of damage over the weekend and the water that flooded over a bridge had mangled and twisted that heavy metal guardrail. Wild.

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Not sure if helpful or already handled, but I would be happy to make a central google doc with tabs for search / cleaning etc crew coordination, supply needs, contact info, resources, carpooling, charities and maybe even a map of some sort showing covered areas, etc. Could add one of yall who's local as co-admin and get out of the way completely once it's up and running.

Can't be there in person, but have been following closely and more than happy to be a resource however I can. Also can build websites and do graphic design if at all useful.

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Hi all, I made a public spreadsheet to help coordinate flood relief efforts in hill country (Hunt, Ingram, Comfort, etc). It's fully public and includes linked Google Forms that feed into the document automatically. Here's how it works:

Tabs + How to Use Them:
README tab Start here. It explains everything in plain terms.
Form Links tab Submit or offer help here. Includes:
1. Request Supplies
2. Volunteer Sign-Up
3. Offer Donations or Shelter
4. Log Areas You've Searched
5. Found Personal Items
Response Tabs (auto-filled) When someone fills out a form, their info appears in the corresponding tab below for volunteers to view and organize from.

I'm not local; just trying to help from a distance. If someone in the area with a Gmail wants to be the point person and take over ownership of the doc, I'll happily transfer it. Just respond here or DM me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10oxTRjbqlLeJQhiUHQQmmo8Jg1Sn2HvJwze51aoS4bY/edit?usp=sharing[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10oxTRjbqlLeJQhiUHQQmmo8Jg1Sn2HvJwze51aoS4bY/edit?usp=sharing][/url]

Posted to the Premium board but figured I'd post here as well.

I have a buddy working directly with the SEALs and 300 Justice Road at Camp Mystic. They are requesting dogs trained specifically for HR (cadaver dogs). It's a priority for them right now. I'm sure most of them are already working, but if know anyone has access to/knows of any that aren't deployed they could use some help.

They are also looking for people who have property with River frontage that needs searching. They are actively mapping.

Thanks.

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Credible Source said:

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lexofer said:

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Real time video of what it was like waking up in the middle of the night to find 1-2" of water in your house. Already 18"+ of water outside and rising as you can see in the 9 minute video. Can see the confusion about what to get and where to go. They ended up going to a slightly elevated porch outside and the water went up to their shoulders before it started to recede. These are the people that own the handmade outdoor furniture store between Hunt and Ingram. They've had their furniture for sale by the side of there road there for at least 3 decades so you've probably seen it if you've ever driven that way.

https://www.facebook.com/100055927324497/videos/2455145144822068

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Having learned how quickly those things go from "what the hell?", to the whole house being washed away, I would wake up screaming to get out and get to higher ground. Even if we just end up watching the water recede from there and not getting worse. I've felt that way ever since I read the texts from the McComb family years ago, and even more so after this. Get the **** out of there, grab the kids and the dog and run to high ground.

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I think the difficult part, is if you're in a house on stilts, your house is surrounded by water. If you try and leave, there is no ground to evacuate to. You're already on an island. Your only hope is it doesn't get swept away. If it does, your best bet is probably to be on the roof and hope you end up close enough to a shore as you float down river that you can jump and swim towards it. Or end up being able to grab onto a huge tree and hope it also doesn't end up floating down river.

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For me this has told me that if I ever buy a house that is on stilts that I should have life jackets for every person in the house in an easy to access area so that I can get them on everyone quickly. I cannot imagine the horror of being in a house with water all around with it rising and no where to go.

Went to P. Terry's in Richmond yesterday. Gonna have to make it to a Torchy's sometime soon as well.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL87phQiY6q/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Patrick Terry reports $150,000 donation from record day of sales.

I just saw this as well...

YETI Texas Strong: United for Kerrville

The amount of not needing a 500th tumbler combined with not wanting to spend $$

is reallllllly fighting with the "BUT ITS SO PRETTY AND FOR A GOOD CAUSE AND WE LOVE TEXAS AND ITS FOR A GOOD CAUSE"

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https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-flood-firsthand-account/

This is terrifying, heartbreaking, and miraculous all in one story about the flood. Not camp related, but a first hand account from a family that had a house in Hunt.

If this isn't the appropriate forum, just delete the post.

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Wow I've been inside this house before when it was owned by prior owners.

Me too. Seriously need nothing less but might do it anyway

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Prayers for all those that will be attending services today and in the following days.

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Just wrapped one today. Will only say that it was one of the Mystic girls, not which one.

But in tragedies, there were many stories of happiness, time enjoyed and many people growing closer with the Lord in leaps and bounds.

To whomever above said that this was the worst tragedy they can remember, I agree. Service was incredibly moving but I do not recommend.

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I just saw this as well...

YETI Texas Strong: United for Kerrville

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Already sold out.

Just like the James Avery item. My wife tried to buy one the first day they were available and they were already gone.

Duckhook said:

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DoitBest said:

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I just saw this as well...

YETI Texas Strong: United for Kerrville

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Already sold out.

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Wow. I was just going to grab one. That's impressive.

My husband is glad they sold out before I could buy. Are they going to do a rerun?

I went ahead and ordered mine and just accepted it will be here in about 6 weeks! It's a testament to Texans as a whole that all these things are selling out so quickly

They are out of stock, so the decision was made for me. Good job Texans.

geebus yall are fast to report the news.

Wow, that email hit my inbox @ 1:49.....5,000 sold in under 2 hours......

Last I read James Avery was taking back orders.

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maroonpivo said:

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Prayers for all those that will be attending services today and in the following days.

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Just wrapped one today. Will only say that it was one of the Mystic girls, not which one.

But in tragedies, there were many stories of happiness, time enjoyed and many people growing closer with the Lord in leaps and bounds.

To whomever above said that this was the worst tragedy they can remember, I agree. Service was incredibly moving but I do not recommend.

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I will have two funerals to go to in the next week or two. I've never been to a child's funeral and I'd rather do anything else in the world. It will be gut-wrenching.

Yeti could always do another run to support the other counties that were affected by the flood since this one was specifically for Kerr County. Just sayin'

Seriously, though, absolutely awesome that Yeti sold out so quickly!

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Waffledynamics said:

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It's been a long time since I've read an article that made me that physically uncomfortable and tense. What a horrifying thing to experience.

Oh those poor people.

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Same for me. I felt like throwing up while I was reading it. I can't imagine that poor mother and how she will cope with what happened. Seeing that last glimpse of her two year old boy and knowing he couldn't swim, yet having to keep fighting for her and her daughter to stay alive. It has to be pure agony.

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It is something every mother of 2+ young ones with their head on a swivel has considered at some point, how to protect both/all in various theoretical emergent situations. In this case, once the house was swept away, there was no plausible scenario in which all 3 could have survived. The only outcomes were 0-2 survivors. An impossible situation. And that 2 survived is incredible, let alone the rest of the family swept away. But the impossibility and that miraculous outcome do absolutely nothing to ease the agony. Losing your child in this tragedy is horrific and unfathomable enough, I have no words to describe losing them in this tragedy in this way. To have them slip from your grasp and instantly know their fate. I am nauseous still nearly 24 hours later.

I posted this on the Mystic thread on F16 as well.

First image is a property called Kipp Cottage where we have stayed for Camp Mystic and LaJunta pick up probably 10 of the last 13 summers. It is across from the Mystic gate (2689 Hwy 39) and a teensy bit down the road (Kipp's address is 2706 Hwy 39). The two old stone cabins are perched high above the river with the prettiest sprawling St. Augustine lawn in between.

We had been wondering how the cabins fared, being so high above the river. Below are pics of the interior with some captioning from the owners, followed by some of my own pics to show perspective of the cabin vs the river at normal levels. FYI I was standing on the ground when taking those second two pics - the cabin behind me has another 2-3 steps up to the back porch.

Pretty incredible 37 minute video. Floating house at the 35:00 mark.

More TF resources inbound.

This is a tough, tough weekend with visitations and funerals. Keep those prayers coming.

Procession plans for Shiloh Wilson tomorrow.

So, so sad.