Mexico Confirms Case of New World Screwworm 70 Miles from U.S. Border.
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Last: 3 mo ago by Deerdude
Its about to get bad folks.
Fuuuuuuuuu*#
Need some cold air soon!
So if one were planning on buying a half or whole cow, now is the time to do it?
Anyone know what this is? Landed in my gun this weekend in Webb county. Was curious if it is one of the sterile males they released?
As someone who knows nothing about this, what's the big problem with it?
Dang that's just upriver on Sabinas river from my cattle.
Thisguy1 said:
As someone who knows nothing about this, what's the big problem with it?
Its problems mainly stem from being the rude, crude worm with a 'tude. Suffice it to say this is one bodacious bug. Very gnarly stuff!
Thisguy1 said:
As someone who knows nothing about this, what's the big problem with it?
Very, very time consuming for the rancher to treat.
Very deadly.
Ask any producer who lived through the 50's and 70's and they will tell you it's about the worst that can happen.
Also for deer
All mammals. Yea late 60's-early 70's sucked. I'm hoping that we know what works this time, as long as the guv fly breeding facility in south Texas progresses faster than typical guv programs.
If this detection is 80 miles from IS then it's 70 miles from my herd.
If this detection is 80 miles from IS then it's 70 miles from my herd.
Aggie Hunter said:
Anyone know what this is? Landed in my gun this weekend in Webb county. Was curious if it is one of the sterile males they released?
looks like a regular old horse fly to me
Interesting I never seen a horsefly with orange eyes. However I can't say I pay much attention to them.
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Also for deer
As big as it could be for the livestock industry, it would probably be triple the financial impact on the wildlife industry.
Our landowner told us that they basically had no deer in the 60s and 70s. Said they were constantly catching sheep and rubbing them down with whatever treatment application they used back in the day. It sounds apocalyptic for deer hunting…
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Our landowner told us that they basically had no deer in the 60s and 70s. Said they were constantly catching sheep and rubbing them down with whatever treatment application they used back in the day. It sounds apocalyptic for deer hunting…
My dad tells stories about riding up to tanks with a dozen or more deer standing in the water up to their noses trying to drown the worms. He says that there would be dead deer in every direction.
Every baby calf, lamb, or kid goat had to be treated within a couple of days of being born or it was a goner.
How far north did it get back on those bad years?
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Also for deer
And since I raise bison, I'll add that species.
Can treat cattle daily, although extremely time consuming. Cannot treat bison every day.
in addition to the current high prices, maybe dig deeper on any older cows and ship them.
This Thursday at 5:00 at the Lincoln Community Center off of Hwy 21, there is a public meeting.
Texas Agrilife Response Preparation is putting it on and it mentions that a "Texas A&M fly specialist" will be present along with Federal, State and Local officials attending.
This was posted on the Carmine Feed facebook page on Saturday.
This Thursday at 5:00 at the Lincoln Community Center off of Hwy 21, there is a public meeting.
Texas Agrilife Response Preparation is putting it on and it mentions that a "Texas A&M fly specialist" will be present along with Federal, State and Local officials attending.
This was posted on the Carmine Feed facebook page on Saturday.
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Our landowner told us that they basically had no deer in the 60s and 70s. Said they were constantly catching sheep and rubbing them down with whatever treatment application they used back in the day. It sounds apocalyptic for deer hunting…
I started carrying a deer rifle in 65-66. Many entire weekends that we never saw a single deer. Grampa pulled down top and bottom strand of barb wire on every fence and replaced with slick wire to prevent open wounds on animals.
Allowing Ivermectin in cattle and deer feed would do wonders, but that's going to take action by the FDA to approve that.
shalackin said:
How far north did it get back on those bad years?
Pretty sure the southern half of the US although I did read about a case in South Dakota.
Shared this here before. Was speaking with David K. Langford in the recent past. He said when he was a boy in the early 50s, there was whiskey-fueled campfire discussion when one of his uncles or cousins saw a deer on a hunt out at their family place in Comfort.
I think Antlermax and Lyssy & Eckel make one, right? Or is it not Ivermectin?
L&E sells deer protein with Ivermectin. The guv guys told us that the monthly tick injection program of Dectomax will prevent larvae from surviving. That's what I'm doing with cattle.
hammerhead said:
in addition to the current high prices, maybe dig deeper on any older cows and ship them.
This Thursday at 5:00 at the Lincoln Community Center off of Hwy 21, there is a public meeting.
Texas Agrilife Response Preparation is putting it on and it mentions that a "Texas A&M fly specialist" will be present along with Federal, State and Local officials attending.
This was posted on the Carmine Feed facebook page on Saturday.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1365006988960072&set=a.523251639802282
Based on how far the stripes come forward, I think that's a secondary screwworm fly.
https://agrilifeextension.tamu.edu/new-world-screwworm-fact-sheet/
Apparently, you can email the pic to the address in the article for identification.
https://agrilifeextension.tamu.edu/new-world-screwworm-fact-sheet/
Apparently, you can email the pic to the address in the article for identification.
Thisguy1 said:
As someone who knows nothing about this, what's the big problem with it?
Not enough cowboys left to treat everything that is susceptible to screworms anymore. Some of the producers will say screw it and sell their herds which will collapse the market for awhile. After everything shakes out the market will come back and then you will really see some prices.
Potential downside, when beef prices hit the stratosphere there is going to be consumer pushback and the laws against cultured "meat" may face some serious scrutiny.
Haven't seen anything about sample collection kits. We used to get prestamped boxes with a glass vial containing alcohol and a data sheet you could fill out and send in to see if you had screw worms or regular blowfly maggots. If you had screw worms they would target your area with fly drops, supposedly.
normaleagle05 said:
Based on how far the stripes come forward, I think that's a secondary screwworm fly.
https://agrilifeextension.tamu.edu/new-world-screwworm-fact-sheet/
Apparently, you can email the pic to the address in the article for identification.
After reading that article, I think the pic was a screwworm, not a secondary,
Quote:
Adult New World screwworms, Cochliomyia hominivorax, (Figure 3) are metallic blue blow flies with three distinct stripes that run down the top (thorax) of the fly just behind the head with large orange eyes. This fly resembles the closely related secondary screwworm, Cochliomyia macellaria, which is also a metallic blue blow fly with three distinct stripes, but the stripes all begin at the same point behind the head.
rab79 said:
Haven't seen anything about sample collection kits. We used to get prestamped boxes with a glass vial containing alcohol and a data sheet you could fill out and send in to see if you had screw worms or regular blowfly maggots. If you had screw worms they would target your area with fly drops, supposedly.
We had two "exchange students" working. Tide out on horseback at sunup. Came in for late lunch and siesta. Then we all loaded up in Jeep and the hands took us to where they had an animal roped and tied up.
Guv provided test tubes with I guess formaldehyde inside a cardboard tube with a threaded lid and self addressed label.
We would remove larvae and put in tube, scrub the wound then paint some smelly stuff on wound and turn animal loose. May have hit them with antibiotic, I don't remember.
Ran into town next morning and put sample in mail.
A few days later I don't remember if we had phone or depended on mail, but USDA confirmed and asked that we went out with a sack of lime and make a big X at the spot where animal was.
Weekly or so something like a Cessna 182 flew over very low and dropped a cardboard box containing 1000 sterile flies on the X.
It's poorly written, but I think the stripes starting at the back of the head is the secondary screwworm. I think.
ETA an AI overview:
ETA an AI overview:
Quote:
To distinguish New World screwworm flies from the secondary screwworm, look for the stripe on the thorax: the New World screwworm's central stripe on its thorax (dorsal surface) does not reach its head, while the secondary screwworm's stripes all start at the same point behind the head.
Ahh I see. Yes that could be worded much better.
Gov't is spending millions for another sterile fly facility and to develop a vaccine. That would be wonderful.