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Whitetail
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Put out moth balls on your fence line.

Other trick is to go to the town barber and collect and distribute a bag of collected hair.
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Whitetail said:

Put out moth balls on your fence line.

Other trick is to go to the town barber and collect and distribute a bag of collected hair.


Hmm, I do have an always shedding German Shepherd.
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TAMUallen said:

schmellba99 said:

I am confused by the description of the layout.

Are they shooting down a fenceline on their side of the fence or are the set up where if they shoot there is a high potential for the bullet to cross the fenceline?

If it is the first scenario - you are getting pissed off for somebody doing something perfectly legal on their won land simply because you dont like it.

If its the second, they are *******s.


They are set up to shoot directly across the fenceline if they miss or have a pass through. Guaranteed to cross property line. If I had known they were in the blind before peeking from far away with a spotting scope, they'd have been able to see me flipping them the bird without binoculars on the fence line. Our main camp is probably 1500 yards downrange too.


What keeps you from just pointing that fact out and asking them to change the setup.
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agsalaska said:

TAMUallen said:

schmellba99 said:

I am confused by the description of the layout.

Are they shooting down a fenceline on their side of the fence or are the set up where if they shoot there is a high potential for the bullet to cross the fenceline?

If it is the first scenario - you are getting pissed off for somebody doing something perfectly legal on their won land simply because you dont like it.

If its the second, they are *******s.


They are set up to shoot directly across the fenceline if they miss or have a pass through. Guaranteed to cross property line. If I had known they were in the blind before peeking from far away with a spotting scope, they'd have been able to see me flipping them the bird without binoculars on the fence line. Our main camp is probably 1500 yards downrange too.


What keeps you from just pointing that fact out and asking them to change the setup.


If it was easy to find these guys and their camp without going onto their property it'd be done. Hence my family that lives out here and knows everybody, lots of land but only one town in the county. Thus the problem where they told him they wouldnt hunt it. Further, when I saw previous satellite that showed the feeder was there before the stand, it means theyve been at this for a long while.

Some of the other comments are very east Texas piney comments that arent remotely valid in hillcountry bordering trans pecos fwiw
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In the end it comes down to it is his property and he can use it as he sees fit. Until he breaks the law there isn't anything realistically you can do besides voice your concerns to him.
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TAMUallen said:

EFR said:

I completely understand why it pisses you off and is dangerous. I deal with a similar situation. The problem is that until a bullet crosses the fence he hasn't broken the law. If you park by the fence and blare gangster rap while you know he is legally hunting on his property you are now breaking the law. At best the game warden is going to tell him it is a poor idea and explain what can happen if bullets/people cross the fence. He is legally hunting as it sits.


Im not advocating hunter harassment but I can listen to my music.

You are definitely advocating hunter harassment and have blatantly said so in several posts. Just be honest.

This guy has done nothing illegal.

You may not like his setup, but nothing he has done is against the law.

But neat that your first inclination is to have the government go deal with him.
Deerdude
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What always worked for me is to put out hay or feed or maybe molasses lick by their blind on your side. Cattle will start bedding there.
Nothing ruins a hunt like a hunter sneaking in to a blind and spooking bedded cattle into a stampede that causes shert pants and spooked area.
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Didn't read through every post, have you talked to the other folks yet?

And was contacting the local GW and discussing with him on your property about it already said?

You're not threatening or anything, you're just inquiring. It's a poorly designed setup on the neighbors part, but as others have said the set up isn't illegal.

Have you talked to them? in both cases, moving the blind to the north or south 45 degrees from center would seemingly solve the problem. Also, I guess those guys don't hunt in the afternoons? aren't both feeders almost due west of the blind?
The AntAGonist
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What about doing what Hunter S. Thompson did to his neighbor?

"Hunter S. Thompson's infamous neighbor feud involved terrifying his neighbor, actor John Oates, with bizarre, drunken antics, including playing loud recordings of pigs being slaughtered at maximum volume, firing guns, shining lights into windows, and leaving a bloody elk heart on his doorstep, all as part of a "gonzo" performance to mess with neighbors, though the two later became friendly and watched football together."



I'm sure he'll stop hunting with the sound of pigs being slaughtered!
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I posted a while back about my situation with people hunting on mostly narrow 5 acre lots in a suburban/rural neighborhood. Some of the lots are very close to each other. But we have an HOA. I drafted an HOA rule, but mainly to prevent this one Columbian dude who doesn't even have a house on his lot from letting a bunch of outsiders come harvest all our deer. Also, removing the stupid firearms prohibition which everyone ignores anyway - and some of us have much larger lots.

Also put in some basic rules - " These rules incorporate recognized safety standards including NRA Firearm Safety Rules, National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) Range Safety Guidelines, and applicable Georgia law."

I haven't read those but maybe there's some stuff you could point to when talking with the warden.
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When you call the GW, document everything and be sure you let him know about your plans for harassing them as well(I mean, sitting in a random spot and peacefully listening to music at full volume when you know they are present)!

If that is a raised blind, then it sounds like there is little actual chance of a bullet crossing the fence line.

I know it is upsetting, but you are also getting yourself unnecessarily riled up when there isn't an actual infringement of your property rights. Talk with them, but I wouldn't give in to childish urges that will have you potentially violating hunter harassment laws, especially after posting about it on a public forum.
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Topography is the one thing that isn't visible on the 2D aerial maps being shown. I have a feeder that is about 90 yards from a neighbor's fence on a 54 acre property. Where I setup my popup is about 125 yds away in the other direction. However, my blind is sitting about 25-30' higher than the feeder location, there is a stock tank dam in between the feeder and the fenceline, and the fence is about 20' higher than the fence. It is setup that way because it is the best way to safely shoot on that property without shooting towards houses, roads, or in a direction where the bullet could cross the fenceline. So I am shooting down into a bowl, with no possibility of the round crossing the fenceline. Without knowing blind height and what the topography does on the sites being shown on maps it is hard to evaluate what the hazard level really is.
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EFR said:

In the end it comes down to it is his property and he can use it as he sees fit. Until he breaks the law there isn't anything realistically you can do besides voice your concerns to him.

And as mentioned by a couple others, these "tactics" being suggested are illegal. Seems like I see more hunter harassment violation stories over the last few years too suggesting LEOs are looking for this stuff (probably focused on anti-hunting "ptotesters" but either way).

Ill add, you now have a digital footprint on a forum discussing "tactics" which is not ideal either.

It sucks, I have been in your situation. Not sure there is much you can do unless you can prove a violation.
The AntAGonist
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"I'll add, you now have a digital footprint on a forum discussing "tactics" which is not ideal either."

Ain't no snitches on the OB!


AgEng06
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I don't know if you'll have much luck getting them to swap the blind and feeder. It's pointed that way so they can see the deer coming off of your property..
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Some of yall crack me up.

Theyve now said, "it's our property and we can do what we want."

It is an elevated blind. Both feeder and blind are visible from the dirt road on my property so I think it is being naive by some posters responses. If there's a missed shot, it will be crossing the property line.

Evaluating next potential steps. A stretch of high fence is currently a leading candidate in my mind as the fence needs replacing anyway. That is costly but perhaps necessary yet the safety problem would still remain unless the high fence turned their blind/feeder into being completely unproductive
AgFan1974
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The AntAGonist said:

"I'll add, you now have a digital footprint on a forum discussing "tactics" which is not ideal either."

Ain't no snitches on the OB!




Assuming you are serious, hard to tell in this format. But... that aint how it works.
Furlock Bones
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OP you are worked up over a set up that's not even that bad.
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Furlock Bones said:

OP you are worked up over a set up that's not even that bad.


Layne Staley
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Here is our neighbor to the south, not only put their feeder (red dot) less than 10 feet from our fence, but using our boundary fence as their feeder pen putting hog panel up. Their shot is directly at the stand on the road which has been there 15 years. Told their 95 year old landowner. Mentioned it to the game warden and he said there is nothing he can do.
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Layne Staley said:

Here is our neighbor to the south, not only put their feeder (red dot) less than 10 feet from our fence, but using our boundary fence as their feeder pen putting hog panel up. Their shot is directly at the stand on the road which has been there 15 years. Told their 95 year old landowner. Mentioned it to the game warden and he said there is nothing he can do.

Now this is something I'd have issue with. Wow.
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1) would be interesting if you invited GW out to your place to meet so you could show him around and introduce yourself. Then just happen to drive by that spot and get his thoughts.

2) Wonder if you put a game cam near the fence line pointing onto theirs. That way if deer does walk there and all of a sudden they run hopefully its on camera. Which would likely suggest someone is hunting it and has shot. And hopefully position of deer clearly or certainly strongly suggest bullet crossed property line. Then show that to GW
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Wow, they sound like great neighbors. Do you have a front end loader? Would they be open to a little berm? Wouldn't have to be super high…4 feet maybe.
The AntAGonist
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Nonsense! If none of say anything to anyone then the government has no reason to search Texags! Duh!
Layne Staley
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ive dumped a few hogs and yotes on that fence line on our side. season doesn't have much left but may try the mothballs.
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The AntAGonist said:

Nonsense! If none of say anything to anyone then the government has no reason to search Texags! Duh!


As tempting as it is to fling feces like a mad ape at their blind/feeder, I will not. Fact is their current setup is irritating and unsafe.
EFR
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I think some of us, at least I am, are trying to politely tell you that the neighbor is right. It is his land, he do what he wants with it until he breaks the law. Some neighbors are good and some are bad, such is life. Based on your responses this is shaping up to be two bad neighbors fighting each other.
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Layne Staley said:

Here is our neighbor to the south, not only put their feeder (red dot) less than 10 feet from our fence, but using our boundary fence as their feeder pen putting hog panel up. Their shot is directly at the stand on the road which has been there 15 years. Told their 95 year old landowner. Mentioned it to the game warden and he said there is nothing he can do.

I would be tempted to line the fences with plywood walls on your side of the fence, and when bullet holes show up in the fence on a line from the blind to the feeder, you have your proof of their shots crossing the fenceline.
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EFR said:

I think some of us, at least I am, are trying to politely tell you that the neighbor is right. It is his land, he do what he wants with it until he breaks the law. Some neighbors are good and some are bad, such is life. Based on your responses this is shaping up to be two bad neighbors fighting each other.


Ha thanks? Sheesh.

What have I done? I wouldnt like it if he put his blind actually on the fence but facing into his land but thats far better. I just don't want to be accidentally shot
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I wish our neighbor was that far off the property line for us.

Dude is literally less than 200ft from the property line with blind and feeder. And even if he is using a bow, which he likely isn't, it's going over the property line with an errant shot.

Blue is his stand. Green is the feeder. His property is that corner. Ours makes the L-shape around his corner.



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TAMUallen said:

I just don't want to be accidentally shot

Then I doubt the high fence solution you're leaning toward will be the answer.
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Layne Staley said:

Here is our neighbor to the south, not only put their feeder (red dot) less than 10 feet from our fence, but using our boundary fence as their feeder pen putting hog panel up. Their shot is directly at the stand on the road which has been there 15 years. Told their 95 year old landowner. Mentioned it to the game warden and he said there is nothing he can do.

This is the exact situation we had. Game Warden took care of it.
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There could be neighbors and/or public and/or private roads in all directions if this is not a huge property. It can be tough to figure out and make a decision re: the best place to bait your wildlife so you can harvest them. If they shoot the other direction, are they shooting towards their own camp? Another direction, towards yours? Another direction towards a public road? Maybe they thought towards your private drive with no buildings that way was the best location for their blind and feeder? I suppose they didn't put any careful thought into their plan and didn't think it was appropriate to talk to you if they concluded this was the best thing to do and that sucks. Is this a tower blind? How tall? Seems that's one thing tower blinds are for - safety. Anyone hunting that blind is shooting downward 100yds away, with your fence another 130 yds away from that, and then your drive beyond that?
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Illustrious Potentate said:

TAMUallen said:

I just don't want to be accidentally shot

Then I doubt the high fence solution you're leaning toward will be the answer.


The fence wouldnt catch bullets?!

The role of the high fence would be to limit deer activity at the fence. It's just a thought since the fence needs to be redone anyway. The best suggestion so far, if the neighboring hunters wont work together and game warden won't be of any help, is pushing a berm to prevent errant shots from being as great of a hazard
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Moth balls, barber hair, and even setting our field on fire while we had a neighbor hunting in a blind on our fence line all preceded the ultimate fix…a high fence.
 
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