TAMUallen said:

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Illustrious Potentate said:

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TAMUallen said:

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I just don't want to be accidentally shot

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Then I doubt the high fence solution you're leaning toward will be the answer.

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The fence wouldnt catch bullets?!

The role of the high fence would be to limit deer activity at the fence. It's just a thought since the fence needs to be redone anyway. The best suggestion so far, if the neighboring hunters wont work together and game warden won't be of any help, is pushing a berm to prevent errant shots from being as great of a hazard

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I do understand your concerns about bullets crossing fence lines. A lot of people are making a lot of assumptions based on a 2d picture. Only you or someone who lays eyes on the place could know whether or not it is an issue. And according to you it is so we should all agree to that.

I also had that issue this year on opening morning when our neighbor came out with some doe cull tags and shot across our fence line. Fortunately it was a one off and they never came back.

And because that is illegal you have every right to pursue it however you want within the confines of the law. Music is a bad idea.

Or a new location for the gut pile.

AgLA06 said:

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You have thought and said a lot of things on this thread while listening to nothing.

Maybe look back through the thread if you don't understand that.

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If you don't understand the link between anger and humor then I don't know what to say. I have done zero things. Still haven't even reached out to the game warden.

The situation is this, the neighbor put up a blind that is approximately 300 yards from my road that runs along the fence line with the blind and feeder lined up to intersect the fence line. The feeder, in the center of a tpost pen, is 130 yards +/- 10yds from the fence line. Last year they said they would not hunt it, implying it would be moved. Yesterday, I was going out to check out a feeder that the fenceline road is the way to get there. It looked like the blind was being used. Went back to ranch house and got spotting scope so I could be far enough away for me glassing the blind with a huge scope to not be considered threatening. Did it piss me off to see that I had just been downrange of an active hunt? Yep. Did it piss me off enough that it sounded funny to be a dick back to a bad neighbor? Yep. Did I do anything beyond thinking it? Nope. Were any words exchanged? Nope. Today they have said it is their land and they can do as they want.

Bottom line, it isn't safe as they have chosen to set up the blind and feeder im a manner that is unsafe for me to use my road. So yes, rebuilding a fence that has needed to be rebuilt for 20 years (which they refuse to share costs on because they dispute this fence that has been there before tposts) as a high fence is valid.

The fact that some justify their actions and think I'm wrong is bizarre. Are they legal? Yes. If they miss and a bullet crosses the fence they are wrong. That is a logical result from any missed shot yet I'm left in the bad position of proving that a firearm has been discharged across the fence line.

As to me not listening, I'm not following. The best idea I've heard has been from this thread feedback to build a berm if they will not change their dangerous setup

I"m confused as to what a high fence would accomplish, other than doing what high fences usually end up doing.

schmellba99 said:

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I"m confused as to what a high fence would accomplish, other than doing what high fences usually end up doing.

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I suspect most deer movement going to and from my property as it is where water and cottonseed is located. The location of this is at the corner of their property too so the high fence would likely very much reduce the deer traffic to that feeder. Additionally, the deer traffic would be coming from behind and to the sides of their feeder not lined up with the fence

Furlock Bones said:

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schmellba99 said:

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I"m confused as to what a high fence would accomplish, other than doing what high fences usually end up doing.

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yea, it's pretty clear he's more concerned about the neighbor shooting "his deer" but he's couched it in pseudo-safety issue.

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Not sure what your deal is. I hope they legally shoot great deer, just not me. I have enough deer to pick from that even if they were to shoot the one I was scouting all season then it still wouldn't matter

If they actually flipped their feeder to the other side of the blind it would be completely fine. Yes, it wouldnt be liked to have a blind that close but it would alleviate the entire safety issue

Furlock Bones said:

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TAMUallen said:

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schmellba99 said:

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I"m confused as to what a high fence would accomplish, other than doing what high fences usually end up doing.

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I suspect most deer movement going to and from my property as it is where water and cottonseed is located. The location of this is at the corner of their property too so the high fence would likely very much reduce the deer traffic to that feeder. Additionally, the deer traffic would be coming from behind and to the sides of their feeder not lined up with the fence

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and there you have it folks.

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Yes, there you have it. They set the feeder and blind up where they could shoot where the deer movement is, towards me. Not hard to figure out

Just out of curiosity, what is the elevation like?

Illustrious Potentate said:

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Just out of curiosity, what is the elevation like?

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Flat to very slight downslope from their side to me

Is this your first year deer hunting? They travel. They move. From your place and to your place. High fence restricts that movement and shows what altruistic motives are underlying here. It will also chanel their movement to the end of the fence if not continuous. They will just go around any open end and create a perfect funnel to get shot.

Build a small berm to alleviate any shot safety issues. Done deal. Problem solved completely and no reason to give it another thought. Buggy around your place feeling safe and stop worrying about what is over the fence that someone else is doing. His actions have zero affect on yours.

He has politely told you he intends to do nothing. So change your own actions from here.

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Crazy idea but hear me out. Call the neighbor. Say "I don't like being in the line of fire and you probably don't want me disturbing your hunting by driving by, do you mind texting me or finding a way to signal the stand is occupied when you use that stand?" Everyone wins. Offering an unobtrusive solution works almost every time with stuff like this. Trying to tell someone what they can or can't do on their own land does not.

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Have you read? Theyve already declined by saying it is their land and will do as they will

Naveronski said:

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Put your own blind on your side of the fence but facing his feeder.

Do not repair fence.

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Can I put a sound system in the blind?

KIDDING

Always been an unwritten rule in our country that blinds and feeders should be at least 100 yds from fence line. It's just common courtesy.

First aerial survey we flew on a new lease some years ago revealed 4 blinds and feeders within 100 yards of a 0.75 mile low fenced section of fencing (high fenced for a long way each side of low fence).

high fence went up to close that section. I don't mind addressing problem neighbors that are taking advantage of the situation.

Build a long pole barn with cheap sheet metal along your fence line. Wait for allegedly inevitable bullet holes to show up, call the GW and boom problem solved.

Buy a dirt bike. Ride fence line several times a day. Problem solved.

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INIGO MONTOYA said:

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First aerial survey we flew on a new lease some years ago revealed 4 blinds and feeders within 100 yards of a 0.75 mile low fenced section of fencing (high fenced for a long way each side of low fence).

high fence went up to close that section. I don't mind addressing problem neighbors that are taking advantage of the situation.

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And this is why eventually most of Texas will be high fenced prison cells and we will wonder how we got to a point where you dont see anytbing approaching open range anymore.

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Sad but true. We were never a bad neighbor but as old ranchers sold out to city boy hunters with money the fences started going up. Our lady three miles of low fence went up because so many bad neighbors abused their neighbors land they finally did something about it. A billion dollar O&G lease and they fenced all 72 miles of fence. Mostly because of that one guy that you may watch on outdoor channel. In the words of the biologist/foreman, if the 72 miles of neighbor the only two worth a damn were us and George.

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I know this board loves to think everything is a country vs city issue and obviously it's always the city boys that are the culprits, but it just isn't true.

High fences started going up when things like Texas Trophy Hunters, B&C, etc. became mainstream and popular and landowners went from simply selling hunting access or day hunts to selling horns and the mentality of "MY deer" became far more prevalent. Its why the deer breeding industry exploded at about the same time frame as well. Hunting became less and less about hunting and more and more about trying to get your name in a record book or being able to sell the most horns. And that isn't a city boy thing, that is as much a landowners wanting to maximize their profits thing as it is anything else.

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I still think the first step in that long chain of mistakes was TPWD allowing people to charge a per animal kill fee that was different based on which animal was killed. We should go back to selling hunting access instead of selling animals and a lot of the nonsense would go away.

schmellba99 said:

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Deerdude said:

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schmellba99 said:

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INIGO MONTOYA said:

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First aerial survey we flew on a new lease some years ago revealed 4 blinds and feeders within 100 yards of a 0.75 mile low fenced section of fencing (high fenced for a long way each side of low fence).

high fence went up to close that section. I don't mind addressing problem neighbors that are taking advantage of the situation.

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And this is why eventually most of Texas will be high fenced prison cells and we will wonder how we got to a point where you dont see anytbing approaching open range anymore.

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Sad but true. We were never a bad neighbor but as old ranchers sold out to city boy hunters with money the fences started going up. Our lady three miles of low fence went up because so many bad neighbors abused their neighbors land they finally did something about it. A billion dollar O&G lease and they fenced all 72 miles of fence. Mostly because of that one guy that you may watch on outdoor channel. In the words of the biologist/foreman, if the 72 miles of neighbor the only two worth a damn were us and George.

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I know this board loves to think everything is a country vs city issue and obviously it's always the city boys that are the culprits, but it just isn't true.

High fences started going up when things like Texas Trophy Hunters, B&C, etc. became mainstream and popular and landowners went from simply selling hunting access or day hunts to selling horns and the mentality of "MY deer" became far more prevalent. Its why the deer breeding industry exploded at about the same time frame as well. Hunting became less and less about hunting and more and more about trying to get your name in a record book or being able to sell the most horns. And that isn't a city boy thing, that is as much a landowners wanting to maximize their profits thing as it is anything else.

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I'm only speaking of my situation happening exactly as described. Old ranchers around us sells. New folks come from city and have lotsa money. Build high fence and throw up huge lights to keep boogeyman away at night, I guess.
Now we did put up 2 miles ourselves on a corner of our place to keep "undocumented hunters" out.