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Naw bro nowhere close you apparently either didn't read my post or were just super happy you found thank dank ass meme and couldn't control yourself.

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I think you are an idiot to try to defend pit bulls. Here is no reason for the breed. I have never seen a news article describing a dog mauling where a pit bull was not the perp.

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Just like we have never seen a news article talking about a shooting where the gun wasn't an AR or an AK "full automatic semi assault rifle with extra clips!"

Using news articles as a reasoning is pretty thin IMO because every dog that isn't a labradoodle is automatically a "pit bull".

Just about any dog, regardless of breed, that is treated poorly and/or neglected and allowed to run free will be a problem in my experience. Pits included.

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Actually not even the same thing. What about the pit bulls that are not treated poorly that still kill people? There seems to be a news story every month or so. So yes, I stand by it. Have never heard of a labradoodle mauling and killing anyone. Have you?

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We get it, you hate pits. I'm not sure how many other ways you can state that fact, although I'm sure you'll come up with a few more just because you seem to be really creative.

I was gonna post yesterday and in the end opted to refrain, as this ongoing pit disagreement hits home some. For many years I was an avowed and stanch opponent of Pits of any kind. I saw, and was part of, a fairly bad attack by what I would identify as a Pit while in school at A&M. It really jaded me.

Fast forward about 22 years I ended up, reluctantly with great trepidation while having a weak moment, rescuing a female Pit that was on deaths door. Tried to rehome her, tried to shelter her; no way no how. She has been the best dog, out of many and out all of all kinds of breeds, that I have ever had.

When rescuing her I took her to my sage and very good long time Vet. A fine doc, fine man, and great Aggie. Two things he mentioned that have always stuck with me. One being that in his 35 years experience, he found that Pits, in general, were people dogs and needed to be around people, they were not "back yard and forget" dogs that had much interest in some inherited trait like hunting or water dogs. The other was that it perplexed him that in the early part of his career he rarely saw Pit caused violence or attacks on other dogs. He didn't elaborate, but said something with the amount and type of Pits changed in the early 80's.

Anecdotally, and I find Gunny's post interesting and informative, I don't remember hearing about the abundance of Pit attacks, or even a lot about dog attacks, growing up in the 70's and early 80's. Why? Did we just not hear about people being mauled? Or was there a much lower instance? I don't know. Further, I have spent most of my life living and working out of the U.S. and one thing I picked up on is that in the countries I lived in, to include the 2 poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere. The stray and uncontrolled dog situation was much worse than seen in the U.S., and there were aplenty Pit's and Pit Mixes. Yet in those countries, and in others, one didn't hear about common dog attacks on people, at least not very frequently. One stark difference is that terrible and aggressive dog behavior in those countries was not tolerated. Good or bad, there was lots of summary justice handed out. There was also lots less for profit breeding and keeping of animals as adornments, for lack of a better word.

As time has passed I have grown to look at Pits in a much different light, but still with abounding caution. Like Gunny relates, I am much more inclined to believe that conditions and early formation, along with repetitive enforcement, has a lot more to do with how a dog behaves. Lotta backyard and apartment abandoned dogs in the U.S.. If I could clone my current, and she is getting older, Pit I would do so.

Howdy, OP here, still no way for me on Pits, get'em gone!

This is funny but true!

https://instagr.am/p/DYPYezqFg62

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2 plus pages, I'd do that as a over/under.


Trivia question: which breed are responsible for most bites in a Austin study years ago?

Answer: Lovable Labs.

Pits have a normal dog bite ratio to other breeds for the most part. But here is the problem….

They have an incredibly strong bite force. Much greater than 90% of all breeds.

They bite and hold/tear at their target much greater fervency than other breeds.

They are very aggressive when in a pack.

A Lab will bite and be done, a Pit will kill you.

Pits are not welcome on my property. Ever.

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We have a lab pit mix. I am posting this from the afterlife because I'm dead.

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And I hope no children around that dog.

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I was pretty glad she was around my pregnant wife pushing a stroller with our toddler when a loose dog (not a pit bull) ran at them. I was walking Poppy a little behind, she saw the dog, got there as fast as she could drag me behind, and turned the loose dog right around with no fuss.

But I'm sure you know more about her than me from just a photo.

Edit: here are some recent photos. We share a back fence with the dog that went after my wife (and me on another occasion). I feel better knowing Poppy is always out there when my wife and the boys are in the backyard.







I'm sure by now maroonblood90 could write tomes on the danger Poppy poses to society, as his knowledge is exponentially greater than the people who've lived with her for 4 years, and spent the 2 years before our first son was born testing her to see her reaction when she gets poked, prodded, grabbed, or has food or toys taken away

We had a dog go berserk in an exam room. Mixed breed dog with no Pit in him and weighed about 40 pounds. We could tell the dog was sketchy so we asked the owner who was actually the owner's mom to put the muzzle on for us and we left the room. Then we heard screaming and the dog had hold of the old woman's arm and was munching on it. Blood everywhere. One of my technicians got the dog off and we put a catch pole on it. We called the son and he begged us not to put the dog to sleep which we couldn't do without his permission anyway. I told him... you should see what he did to your mother. I was pretty worked up. After the EMS left the guy came and got the dog and I told him to never bring it back. To my knowledge he never put the dog to sleep. He took it to another Vet and had him neutered. I doubt if it helped.

We don't tolerate bad dogs. I won't risk my staff or myself.