Thoughts on Wolf Pen Creek Amphitheater Makeover?

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Bob Yancy said:



You're likely gonna get a 5% tax rate cut and that reflects efficiency.

Yancy '95


Appreciate your engagement here but have to push back on this nonsense. It most certainly does not reflect efficiency, it reflects escalating home valuations. That kind of double talk might work in political ads targeting low engagement voters, but not here. A better metric would be whether the total tax burden on the citizens increased faster or slower than average wages.
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You can put in the group of people that follow this thread and others,and don't comment much. I think you'd be surprised at how many of us agree with Elite, maroon, Alg.

That said, I live in Bryan, so the frivolous spending and irresponsibility in CoCS doesn't affect me as much.
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Hornbeck said:

For the 10,000th time…. Its not the *rate* I care about, its the *AMOUNT*

The CS City Council and the county commissioners court love to trumpet about rates, so, I'll say one more time with feeling…. I DO NOT CARE. My taxes have gone up significantly, every single year, no matter what Nichols, Nancy Berry, or Judge Dwayne's talking points are. The check I have to write to BCAD every year goes up. My house goes up 10% a year in valuation like clockwork.

You are also adding more to my water bill to pay for new wells. Now that those aren't needed, according to KBTX, all I hear is silence from the city on lowering that back down. I guess you're going to spend $70MM on new wells, regardless.

In case no one has noticed, the economy isn't hot right now. Many companies are laying off. Local businesses are failing. So, by all means, lets grab more money from the citizenry.


Responding just on water wells, we had to do it. 1) water consumption is rising and straining our future capacity 2) the lawsuit settlement pushes curtailment decades further out, but doesn't strike it from the calendar completely 3) current laws/regs had us facing a "use it or lose it" permit situation.

I asked if it was doable to strike one water well in the wake of a reasonably successful settlement agreement. The answer was no, not recommended by line staff that are over the water supply. I called and had meetings with other, alternate agency water supply experts to understand the water issue. I've been engaged on water since before I was elected. Stepped into office with it top of mind.

If it matters, my best information on the state of our water system and our water strategy is that your city is doing what it needs to do, and doing it well, with water.

Edited: there is no increase in water or electric rates in the proposed budget

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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But that's not the narrative that was sold to the voters.

We were told that the new wells were needed because there was one entity, Upland Brazos Valley Farm that was going to pump a huge amount of water and pipe it to the Austin area from Robertson County. This would necessitate building new, deeper wells, to adjust the city's ability to get to this deeper water. Everyone downhill from Booger County raised cane with the Groundwater Conservation District, and sued.

Since then, the lawsuit enjoined by several local entities has been settled. The amount that Upland is able to pump has been slashed. There was big fanfare on the local news by TAMU, CoB, etc. This was a huge win for water drinkers.

But the lack of any reaction from CoCS was noticed by those of us who follow local politics. As I said, and you confirmed, this apparently has not changed the position of the city that these new wells are still needed, I guess because you already committed to spending that $70M, even though the driving force behind this has changed.

This in a nutshell is why people don't trust you guys.
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Hornbeck said:

But that's not the narrative that was sold to the voters.

We were told that the new wells were needed because there was one entity, Upland Brazos Valley Farm that was going to pump a huge amount of water and pipe it to the Austin area from Robertson County. This would necessitate building new, deeper wells, to adjust the city's ability to get to this deeper water. Everyone downhill from Booger County raised cane with the Groundwater Conservation District, and sued.

Since then, the lawsuit enjoined by several local entities has been settled. The amount that Upland is able to pump has been slashed. There was big fanfare on the local news by TAMU, CoB, etc. This was a huge win for water drinkers.

But the lack of any reaction from CoCS was noticed by those of us who follow local politics. As I said, and you confirmed, this apparently has not changed the position of the city that these new wells are still needed, I guess because you already committed to spending that $70M, even though the driving force behind this has changed.

This in a nutshell is why people don't trust you guys.


Multiple things can be true at once. Upwell multiplied the urgency and advanced the timeline for curtailment, the point at which we would've hit the current desired future condition limit of the aquifer. And…we had a "use it or lose it" permit deadline according to water, city, and legal leadership staff. And…we were bumping up against our future capacity limits due to water demand. Remember your drought restrictions last summer?

I'm very comfortable we made the right move. I'll not begrudge you your opinions but after headache inducing research and meetings and lots of outside agency consultation, we're doing the right thing with water.

Grandsons arriving shortly for a week stay. Gotta run.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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Hornbeck said:

But that's not the narrative that was sold to the voters.

We were told that the new wells were needed because there was one entity, Upland Brazos Valley Farm that was going to pump a huge amount of water and pipe it to the Austin area from Robertson County. This would necessitate building new, deeper wells, to adjust the city's ability to get to this deeper water. Everyone downhill from Booger County raised cane with the Groundwater Conservation District, and sued.

Since then, the lawsuit enjoined by several local entities has been settled. The amount that Upland is able to pump has been slashed. There was big fanfare on the local news by TAMU, CoB, etc. This was a huge win for water drinkers.

But the lack of any reaction from CoCS was noticed by those of us who follow local politics. As I said, and you confirmed, this apparently has not changed the position of the city that these new wells are still needed, I guess because you already committed to spending that $70M, even though the driving force behind this has changed.

This in a nutshell is why people don't trust you guys.


I'm pretty much against wasteful spending, but investing in necessary infrastructure now that will certainly be needed sooner rather than later, isn't really wasteful imo.

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Bob Yancy said:



  • I like the idea of polling the public for all major projects. Y'all are the boss. I don't mean this negatively, but I should point out that there's 4 to 6 of you guys that are pretty consistent in your opinions that are not reflective, per se, of the feedback I get from a very, very large number of people. That's ok, and that doesn't invalidate yalls views, and you deserve respect and engagement and that's why I do it- but I think it's important y'all know that.
All due respect but there are 4-6 that are consistently supportive (by number of post likes) of your views as well and I also rub shoulders with a lot of people and they give me 180* opposite feedback to your people. I suspect it has a lot to do with our circles but don't know for sure

  • When you look at that eyeball icon in the upper left corner at the top of every post, there are thousands and thousands of views. The comments are far fewer, and a high percentage of those comments is a handful of you guys.
Are you assuming that most of the post views are by people who agree with you and simply don't comment? That's fairly flawed logic if true, those same people could be diametrically opposed to your viewpoints and are afraid to comment. I as well as others have had posts removed for dissenting so maybe those people don't want to be banned or censored?

  • People email me and call me and hit me up at Lowes and everywhere all the time. They offer encouragement to keep engaging here a lot- and I mean a lot- and they say they don't comment and won't, but they read. That too is why I try to make my case and hear yours too.
Most people clutch their anonymity tightly, I have had similar experiences with average citizens, lawmakers and community leaders alike, even going so far as to encourage me to run for council or commissioner.

  • Finally- I know what it's like to distrust government and wonder what in the world were elected officials thinking when they decided ______! I wondered that before elected and I still do. I try to represent everyone- including that view when warranted.
  • If yall would attend and/or watch the meeting video I believe you'd see that.
  • At the end of the day- this community is absolutely bursting with potential. There is so much we could do! I want us to take it to the next level, efficiently.
I appreciate your efforts even when we don't agree. Engaging here is risky and I appreciate that you are willing to take that risk.

I have participated on boards and committees throughout the county and my own honest, humble opinion is that people who have their taxes frozen by age should be fairly represented, however, not be the primary driver of policy and budgetary expenditures. I am sometimes in awe of what we WASTE money on, until I reflect on the fact, that, often those who are voting to spend do not share the burden. It's an easier decision when it's other people money apparently. Break CoCs up into single member districts and let every area of the city be equally represented.




Bob see my bolded responses, sorry was out of town at my daughters golf tourney so just saw this today.
www.elitellp.net/

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EliteElectric said:

Bob Yancy said:



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[li]I like the idea of polling the public for all major projects. Y'all are the boss. I don't mean this negatively, but I should point out that there's 4 to 6 of you guys that are pretty consistent in your opinions that are not reflective, per se, of the feedback I get from a very, very large number of people. That's ok, and that doesn't invalidate yalls views, and you deserve respect and engagement and that's why I do it- but I think it's important y'all know that.[/li]
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All due respect but there are 4-6 that are consistently supportive (by number of post likes) of your views as well and I also rub shoulders with a lot of people and they give me 180* opposite feedback to your people. I suspect it has a lot to do with our circles but don't know for sure

[ul]
[li]When you look at that eyeball icon in the upper left corner at the top of every post, there are thousands and thousands of views. The comments are far fewer, and a high percentage of those comments is a handful of you guys.[/li]
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Are you assuming that most of the post views are by people who agree with you and simply don't comment? That's fairly flawed logic if true, those same people could be diametrically opposed to your viewpoints and are afraid to comment. I as well as others have had posts removed for dissenting so maybe those people don't want to be banned or censored?

[ul]
[li]People email me and call me and hit me up at Lowes and everywhere all the time. They offer encouragement to keep engaging here a lot- and I mean a lot- and they say they don't comment and won't, but they read. That too is why I try to make my case and hear yours too.[/li]
[/ul]

Most people clutch their anonymity tightly, I have had similar experiences with average citizens, lawmakers and community leaders alike, even going so far as to encourage me to run for council or commissioner.

[ul]
[li]Finally- I know what it's like to distrust government and wonder what in the world were elected officials thinking when they decided ______! I wondered that before elected and I still do. I try to represent everyone- including that view when warranted.[/li]
[li]If yall would attend and/or watch the meeting video I believe you'd see that.[/li]
[li]At the end of the day- this community is absolutely bursting with potential. There is so much we could do! I want us to take it to the next level, efficiently.[/li]
[/ul]

I appreciate your efforts even when we don't agree. Engaging here is risky and I appreciate that you are willing to take that risk.

I have participated on boards and committees throughout the county and my own honest, humble opinion is that people who have their taxes frozen by age should be fairly represented, however, not be the primary driver of policy and budgetary expenditures. I am sometimes in awe of what we WASTE money on, until I reflect on the fact, that, often those who are voting to spend do not share the burden. It's an easier decision when it's other people money apparently. Break CoCs up into single member districts and let every area of the city be equally represented.




Bob see my bolded responses, sorry was out of town at my daughters golf tourney so just saw this today.


Good feedback thanks! It's not risky though. Truly it's not. I'm blessed to be early retired. For me, council is one last act of leadership, or liberation. I'm willing to do the work and believe in giving back to the city that was so good to my family. But, if at any point, you guys are done with me just send me home. I'll go back to more time with my grandsons, my tractor and golf at any time. :-)

I hope your daughter shot in the 70s!

All the best!

Yancy '95
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Bob Yancy said:




I hope your daughter shot in the 70s!

All the best!

Yancy '95

Nooooooooo! Don't wish that one her!!! They are 9 hole tourneys for 2 more years until she's 13!

www.elitellp.net/

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EliteElectric said:

Bob Yancy said:




I hope your daughter shot in the 70s!

All the best!

Yancy '95

Nooooooooo! Don't wish that one her!!! They are 9 hole tourneys for 2 more years until she's 13!




How about the 30s then! Best of luck!
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Good evening,

I have my tin hat on and had an idea.
What if you removed the amphitheater, and did a PPP to build out a ski city, a la the old Mt. Aggie? Using the slope of the landscape for the purpose of the business.

I'm trying to think as a differentiator. What do people with money like to do, that isn't available anywhere else, and we use our centralized location to drive tourism.

I don't know if there is a business called ski city, but that has a nice ring to it.

Skiing
Snowboarding
Tubing

All year long.


"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
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That would definitely be unique!
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https://www.costar.com/article/475888274/worlds-largest-music-venue-operator-calls-this-real-estate-the-new-sweet-spot


My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
 
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