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Anti-taxxer said:

Guitarsoup said:

The Carnival Liberty decided to gun it to the other side of the Yucatan and they apparently made it.



Being stranded on a Carnival cruise in the aftermath of a hurricane sounds like one of the levels of absolute hell.
The stranded Covid infected Diamond Princess says hi.
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How would you describe them?
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maroon barchetta said:

But if they do have a breakdown and get stranded, like the one in the news ten years ago or whenever it was, those people are in trouble.

I know it's rare, but the risk is greater than zero.
But, certainly much less risk than "reckless disregard" or whatever nonsense they were spouting. What they (and we) don't know is when or how the decision was made. When did they have to commit which route to take? What was the alternative? What were the risks of staying put if the storm maintained a certain trajectory?

There is actually a scenario (a likely one IMO) where that was literally the safest decision at the time it was made, and that the microscopic chance of a ME failure was better than being caught between a hurricane and nowhere to go depending on the path of the storm.
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Safest place for a ship that size is at sea. Getting stuck in port would be worse. Carnival people do this for a living and probably know what they are doing. Highest risk factor would be an alphabet kiwi captain and thats probably not the case here because there's real money involved and they not on taxpayer dime.
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Back to a cat 5, 918mb, 165mph sustained
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The Shank Ag said:

Back to a cat 5, 918mb, 165mph sustained
When we were at 898 and 225mph gusts I was sure that was the peak. I still think so but...

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If that drama queen on X expected that ship to go back to Galveston, it appears that would have been going back into choppier seas than making a run for the other side of the Yucatan.
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Captain Winky said:

How would you describe them?


Shut up
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PJYoung said:

The Shank Ag said:

Back to a cat 5, 918mb, 165mph sustained
When we were at 898 and 225mph gusts I was sure that was the peak. I still think so but...


They came back 30 minutes after the 4:00pm advisory with an update calling it 905 mb and 165 mph.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:




Most of Florida is barge/cargo supplied vs pipe so the runout was inevitable
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txags92 said:

GarlandAg2012 said:

txags92 said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

Red Cross?

That money will wind up as cash in a crate somewhere in Africa.
Yep.

The only thing I'd give the Red Cross is double rods.
This.

Out of that $250k, maybe $25k will be used for actual relief. The rest goes to overhead, management pay, vacations, pensions, etc.
I don't know anything about the Red Cross, but I thought Charity Navigator was a pretty reliable source of info and their data doesn't back up what y'all are saying. Is Charity Navigator bunk?

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605


IIRC, the ire directed at the Red Cross was not necessarily their overhead, but during one of the large disaster events a while ago (Harvey maybe?), they were taking donations in the name of that event, but then using the money elsewhere for other things while there were still lots of people in need. They got busted on it and were pretty unrepentant IIRC.
I can see how that would be frustrating but I also know nothing about how best to deploy donations for emergencies. I'd sort of hope they are experts in that but who knows.

Then again if we were all just trying to make our donations do the most good I think most funds would be directed outside the USA. It's much cheaper to save lives in undeveloped countries.

Sorry to derail. Hope Milton somehow doesn't destroy FL but it's looking pretty dicey.
I really don't remember the details and don't care enough to go dig them up, but I think it was something where they were accepting donations through a bunch of regional affiliates and those affiliates were basically putting the money in their local accounts and hanging on to it for future needs in their area, instead of sending it for use in the disaster that everybody was donating money to help. I kind of recall that they have changed some of their donation capabilities to allow you to earmark it for a specific disaster, and if you don't, they reserve the right to use it as they see fit. I tend to look for more localized groups to donate to these days because they are more likely to get the money where it is needed most.


It was Haiti that exposed them. They took a **** load of money for that (including mine) and did little with it. It exposed how incompetent and inefficient they were. Pretty big deal back then. I've never given to them again because of it. Maybe they've fixed what was broken since then but there are now so many other worthwhile charities that aren't as sclerotic as the Red Cross that they aren't worth considering anymore.
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Yeah not a bunch of products pipelines in Florida.
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Biden got his top people getting out ahead of this disaster.
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tamuags08 said:


She seems nice


The Shank Ag
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Mikeyshooter said:

tamuags08 said:


She seems nice


I am also a fan
maroon barchetta
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It's Stephanie Abrams. She's been nice since before Ike in 2008.


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now we got reverse tornadoes in the eyewall!

maroon barchetta
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"To of"
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txags92 said:

htxag09 said:

txags92 said:

GarlandAg2012 said:

schmellba99 said:

Velvet Jones said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

Red Cross?

That money will wind up as cash in a crate somewhere in Africa.
Yep.

The only thing I'd give the Red Cross is double rods.
This.

Out of that $250k, maybe $25k will be used for actual relief. The rest goes to overhead, management pay, vacations, pensions, etc.
I don't know anything about the Red Cross, but I thought Charity Navigator was a pretty reliable source of info and their data doesn't back up what y'all are saying. Is Charity Navigator bunk?

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605


IIRC, the ire directed at the Red Cross was not necessarily their overhead, but during one of the large disaster events a while ago (Harvey maybe?), they were taking donations in the name of that event, but then using the money elsewhere for other things while there were still lots of people in need. They got busted on it and were pretty unrepentant IIRC.

Don't know…doesn't take a lot of deep digging to see this ire is directed at overhead
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Out of that $250k, maybe $25k will be used for actual relief. The rest goes to overhead, management pay, vacations, pensions, etc.

I was not talking about what one guy on Texags was mad about, I was talking about the change in public sentiment that caused the Red Cross to fall out of favor somewhat in the last few years as a place to donate for disaster relief.
This.

But by all means lets take every single thing 100% literally and then find a way to try to prove how what is obviously a very broad statement as somehow a peer reviewed research paper or something.
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Former Htown's finest Britta Merwin in Sarasota on Fox News International
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All that really matters is where's Cantore going. If you an see him, you need to get the F out. That dude always hunts for the hardest hit spots.
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AgLiving06 said:

All that really matters is where's Cantore going. If you an see him, you need to get the F out. That dude always hunts for the hardest hit spots.


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I heard someone say that you should follow the sharks to see where it will make landfall, as they will clear out around the area where it will hit.

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You can keep an eye on the rising storm surge here:

Some Florida Earthcams
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When did I miss that now it's supposed to still be a four at landfall?
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Quincey P. Morris said:

When did I miss that now it's supposed to still be a four at landfall?
I don't think you missed it. The forecast changed overnight.
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This morning
swimmerbabe11
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i remember my grandfather saying this stuff about ARC when I was a little girl and how they were corrupt since he fought in the war ...and that was WW2, so this isn't a new accusation either
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Britta getting wet!
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The Kraken said:

Britta getting wet!
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