Motorcycle- Lane Splitting

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I have started to see a bunch of lane splitting by motorcycle riders here in Houston. Mostly by sport bike riders. Is this still illegal here in Texas? Not sure if anyone else is irritated by this activity, but I hate getting startled when a sport bike comes zipping through traffic splitting lanes. The motors are loud and I'm not noticing them coming up from behind me until they pass with all the engine noise!

Another question would be, if I change lanes on the road and dont notice a bike coming up behind me lane splitting and he runs into my car, who is at fault?

I love motorcycles and actually own two (dual sport), but hate the lane splitting habits.
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Lane splitting is illegal and constitutes negligence per se. What matters though is what a judge and jury in Harris Co. decide was reasonable.
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Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.
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Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

Lane splitting is illegal and constitutes negligence per se. What matters though is what a judge and jury in Harris Co. decide was reasonable.
Lane splitting wasn't explicitly illegal in Texas until 2023. Prior to that you could be cited for improper lane changes or negligence but there wasn't a law prescribing its use or prohibition.
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Not surprising, had a member here tell me they hoped I died when I advocated for a law making it legal in Texas. Even explicitly stated I didn't go more than 15mph faster than traffic and stopped once I hit 30mph.
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Naveronski said:

Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.


Who said anything about death? But they definitely deserve a trashed bike and some road rash.
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I don't dislike lane splitting on the premise that the biker gets an advantage of moving up in traffic, but I'm like the OP it startles the F out of me when a bike is ripping along between lanes and comes up behind me. Besides that, the ones I've seen aren't putt putting along; they're moving. It is a rarity that I am in traffic because I'm a rural dweller - but I've seen it a few times in the last few years here on the border and each time my thought was 'whoa, I wouldn't want to do that even if it was legal".
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Centerpole90 said:

I don't dislike lane splitting on the premise that the biker gets an advantage of moving up in traffic, but I'm like the OP it startles the F out of me when a bike is ripping along between lanes and comes up behind me. Besides that, the ones I've seen aren't putt putting along; they're moving. It is a rarity that I am in traffic because I'm a rural dweller - but I've seen it a few times in the last few years here on the border and each time my thought was 'whoa, I wouldn't want to do that even if it was legal".


High speed differential is stupid.

In stop and go traffic, how often do you see rear ending accidents compared to a side swipe accident? Especially if you have stopped traffic after a rise or curve that hampers visibility, no freaking way I'm sitting at the back of that on a motorcycle.
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I've only lane split once, and it wasn't to fly down the highway. Traffic was at a standstill, and my cajones were getting roasted by the engine betwixt my loins. I might have been going 10 mph.

All that to say, I can see where certain situations justify it.
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Thanks for the responses. I dont think i would mind it in stop and go traffic as much even though i never do it myself. Provided they are going slowly through traffic. It does get a bit warm in the summer in slow traffic, but I figure thats the price I pay for choosing to ride my bike.

Unfortunately, cops in cars cant really do much about it since they cant follow them, and I will never be in favor of camera based ticketing. So, I guess I just have to live with it and just flip them off on those occasions.
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I could fit my car between vehicles in adjacent lanes quite often, should it be legal for cars if it is legal for bikes? I feel more safe in a car than on a bike.

It just seems like a huge safety issue, I don't get why it is allowed. Trying to encourage more motorcycle riders to make up for the city, county, or state not keeping up on road needs? "Sorry we didn't build enough lanes but if you ride a motorcycle it's effectively a 3/5/7 lane road now!!"
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This has made its way to DFW as well. I hate it.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Naveronski said:

Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.


Who said anything about death? But they definitely deserve a trashed bike and some road rash.


"He cut in front of me in traffic. I want him beaten senseless, his skin removed with rough concrete, and his property destroyed."

You have a warped sense of morality.
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It never bothered me in commiefornia, because the bikes wouldn't hold up traffic when the light turned green.

Okinawa was different, 50cc mopeds would constantly lane split and then lead traffic at 20 km/h below the speed limit.
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Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.
Are you serious Clark?
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Yes
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A lane splitting crotch rocket getting hit by a paper tag Altima might be like the DVD logo perfectly hitting the corner.

Relax bikers just joking
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We should just get rid of all the traffic laws. That way we don't have to gripe about the ones we don't like and choose to ignore with regularity.
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Naveronski said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Naveronski said:

Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.


Who said anything about death? But they definitely deserve a trashed bike and some road rash.


"He cut in front of me in traffic. I want him beaten senseless, his skin removed with rough concrete, and his property destroyed."

You have a warped sense of morality.


Without rules and the social contract we might as well be animals or SouthEast Asian drivers.
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In stop and go traffic, I feel like pedestrians should have to get off the sidewalk and pick a lane to stand in so they're not passing stopped traffic on the sidewalks. If I have to wait in my car, everyone should have to wait!

I'm all for filtering where motorcycles lane split through slow or stopped traffic, but opposed to high speed lane splitting. I feel like making bikes wait in auto traffic is as ridiculous as asking pedestrians to wait in auto traffic in my example above.
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TxAg20 said:

In stop and go traffic, I feel like pedestrians should have to get off the sidewalk and pick a lane to stand in so they're not passing stopped traffic on the sidewalks. If I have to wait in my car, everyone should have to wait!

I'm all for filtering where motorcycles lane split through slow or stopped traffic, but opposed to high speed lane splitting. I feel like making bikes wait in auto traffic is as ridiculous as asking pedestrians to wait in auto traffic in my example above.


Your argument doesn't work unless I would also be allowed to drive on the pedestrian sidewalk.
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Lane splitting is annoying and only trumped by the number of riders cruising around with gopros on their head instigating fights then posting the reactions on youtube and playing victim.
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Of those opposed to lane splitting, you never speed or camp in the passing lane, right?

Is it different?
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I've been out of the bike world since I had kids, but wasn't there some in depth CA study about how splitting/filtering reduced motorcycle accidents overall and was a benefit?
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Me doing 105 on the highway gets me and my vehicle off of the highway faster therefore reducing the chances of me being the cause of a collision on said highway...
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Without rules and the social contract we might as well be animals or SouthEast Asian drivers.
Oh Sir!

You haven't lived until you've seen 5 rows of cars spread across 3 lanes in Bangalore.
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BigNastyNate said:

Of those opposed to lane splitting, you never speed or camp in the passing lane, right?

Is it different?

I have noticed since the ICE crackdowns started, the number of left lane campers has decreased significantly on I-45 Gulf Freeway in Houston.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Naveronski said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Naveronski said:

Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.


Who said anything about death? But they definitely deserve a trashed bike and some road rash.


"He cut in front of me in traffic. I want him beaten senseless, his skin removed with rough concrete, and his property destroyed."

You have a warped sense of morality.


Without rules and the social contract we might as well be animals or SouthEast Asian drivers.



It's Houston. At this point, your description is mostly accurate.
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If it's stop and go traffic and they're splitting at 15-20mph, fine.

If I'm going 70 on the highway and they split doing 90-100mph+. Not OK.
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Naveronski said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Naveronski said:

Teslag said:

Not gonna lie, every time a see a motorcycle lane splitting I'm hoping a car doesn't see him and sideswipes him.

Hoping for the death of someone because they're not sitting in traffic is certainly an opinion.


Who said anything about death? But they definitely deserve a trashed bike and some road rash.


"He cut in front of me in traffic. I want him beaten senseless, his skin removed with rough concrete, and his property destroyed."

You have a warped sense of morality.


I think what drives this attitude are the lane splitting bikers, who more often than not, are racing through slow traffic.

I saw one of these idiots riding the sidewalk on Richmond, revving up to let everyone know how bad ass he was once he cut back into traffic before racing off. Came up with him on his ass at Gessner flopping around like a fish out of water after rear ending a car. Difficult to feel sorry for those types.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Without rules and the social contract we might as well be animals or SouthEast Asian drivers.
Oh Sir!

You haven't lived until you've seen 5 rows of cars spread across 3 lanes in Bangalore.



I've spent enough time in India for work in Bangalore and Chennai to understand what the find a gap fill a gap concept of driving does to traffic.
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And that's the deal. Here's a historical context of my lane splitting experience.

Colorado
I left Austin for Denver back in early 2000 which was about when Texas repealed its helmet law.
In Denver, I'd see lots of dudes riding with no helmets and in the summer, no jackets.

I wound up working with a few motorcycle riders, mostly Harley guys. I remember one of the guys talking about how badly he wanted to lane split coming back down I-70 from Summit County in heavy traffic. But, he was afraid of getting caught and getting a ticket.

California
In 2004 (after getting laid off in Denver) I moved to Los Angeles and I would see these guys lane splitting and thought they were insane. Later, I found out that it was in fact legal in California.

It was much later that I found out that there was a technical reason for it and there were also rules about it.

Apparently, in stop and go traffic (which we had a lot of in SoCal), motorcycles which were air cooled would overheat and thus, they were able to get a law passed to allow motorcycles to keep moving between cars in these traffic conditions.

But, there were two major points:
1 - they're only supposed to do it between the furthest left lane and the lane to its right.
2 - they're only supposed to go 10 mph above the flow of traffic.

Side note - when you're in traffic with lane splitting motorcycles, LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES is an absolute fact.

After getting the side view mirror on my Expedition slapped by some pissed off motorcycle rider who I never saw lane splitting his way past me on The 110 on my way to LAX, I learned to always be watching my rearview mirror for lane splitting motorcycles.

I always move slightly left in my lane to give them plenty of room to pass me, especially the guys with the ape hangers.

That's fine. It works in California.

But, that doesn't mean these guys are supposed to be lane splitting at 100 mph when traffic is doing 70 mph.

Australia
When I moved to Australia at the end of 2007, I found an entirely different lane splitting phenomena. My Piaggio Scooter riding co-worker called it "Filtering".

Basically at every stop light, he'd ride between cars up to the front of the line so that he'd be ready to take off first when the light changed.

Malaysia
When I went to Kuala Lumpur, it was crazy how many scooters would crowd up to the front of every stop light and then take off before all the cars.

Again, those methods work too.

Houston
What we're seeing here in Houston is the occasional sport bike rider who is doing 110+ mph, weaving across lanes on I-45.

That is nuts. But... at least, most of those guys have ridiculously loud exhaust systems so you can hear them coming and they're wearing helmets and jackets for those inevitable crashes.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Without rules and the social contract we might as well be animals or SouthEast Asian drivers.

Oh Sir!

You haven't lived until you've seen 5 rows of cars spread across 3 lanes in Bangalore.



I've spent enough time in India for work in Bangalore and Chennai to understand what the find a gap fill a gap concept of driving does to traffic.

Of course, in the Subcontinent, they're only going 10 mph.

Used to take 45 minutes to get from my hotel to the office in BLR.
It would have only taken 20 minutes to walk it.
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I'm a big fan of lane splitting. Too many people today are shielded from being properly exposed to natural selection.
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