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Hyper ketosis anyone?

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H-town ag
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I'm familiar with keto, but have seen a lot of videos on hyper ketosis, which I have found is basically intermittent fasting, clean eating with low fat, low carbs and high fiber. The plan is 40 days of 2 meals a day within an 8 hour window (I.e. 12pm-8pm). Meals include lean protein, 3 servings of green vegetables, and a cup of fruit like berries or an apple. No dairy, no oils, which can be difficult.

Wondering if anyone has tried this plan?
True Anomaly
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So basically a high protein/high fiber diet? This absolutely would work perfectly fine for fat loss- provided you do resistance training.

The cool part about a diet like this is that it is MUCH easier to eat in a calorie deficit because your food comes from lean proteins and fruits/veggies- so you get very full on food that is lower in calories and high in fiber. Magic combination for sure

You don't need to stick to that timing window to make it work though- you can have your meals whenever in the day and have the same results. Because some people prefer to eat earlier in the day- so those people can have meals earlier, and stay full until dinner and then eat and be satisfied until the next morning. Those people might do poorly in having to wait until noon to eat because they just don't like that. But if the calories are in check, this diet would work perfectly fine no matter when you eat it
Col. Steve Austin
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H-town ag said:

I'm familiar with keto, but have seen a lot of videos on hyper ketosis, which I have found is basically intermittent fasting, clean eating with low fat, low carbs and high fiber. The plan is 40 days of 2 meals a day within an 8 hour window (I.e. 12pm-8pm). Meals include lean protein, 3 servings of green vegetables, and a cup of fruit like berries or an apple. No dairy, no oils, which can be difficult.

Wondering if anyone has tried this plan?
Two years ago I wanted to lose 20 plus lbs in a 2-3 months time. I was on a Keto diet, practiced intermittent fasting, cut out almost all alcohol and walked a lot (5-6 days a week, up to 5 or 6 miles on my "long" walks). I was checking my ketones and glucose levels daily to make sure I was in ketosis. The fat melted off pretty quickly and I felt better than I'm had in years. The keto diet was easy because I was eating a lot of protein and "good" fats. I eventually had to dial it back somewhat on the walking due to a hip issue but that was really my only exercise (no resistance training or anything like that). I was very happy with my results, especially because it seemed so easy to stay on track. My wife was on the same routine except for the walking (just can't get her to exercise regularly any more). We both got so used to eating only two meals a day that we have continued that practice even though we're not really doing keto anymore. We don't strictly adhere to the 8 hour window, but generally we are in that range. From what I've read, if you fast at least 12 hours, you will get some of the benefits in producing additional ketones although you may not be strictly in ketosis.

I agree with True Anomaly that it's not so important when you eat your meals as much as it is to try and eat in that 8 hour window. Most days we eat breakfast, but not until 11 AM up to 1 PM and then have dinner between 6 and 7 PM. You may find eating an early breakfast and a very early dinner or late lunch works better for you.

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Aggie_Boomin 21
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I don't see how that diet would be conducive to getting into ketosis at all.

Doesn't make it a bad diet, I just don't understand the name.
H-town ag
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I think the name is gimmicky and I agree does not push the body into ketosis like a traditional keto diet. I think it is more calorie deficit with fiber.
JR2007
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If it's truly low carb it'll get you into ketosis. If it's also truly low fat, you'll be white knuckling it as it is so there's no need to also do IF. What are the carb and fat limits?
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Pretty sure your body will convert protein to glucose before it goes into ketosis as that is an easier energy path. That's why a real keto diet is not high protein and what separates keto from just a low carb diet.
H-town ag
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This guy is all over social media with 500K followers… here is his plan https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jP1uAk/
JR2007
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Gluconeogenesis is demand driven not supply driven. People on a carnivore diet will be in ketosis. Personally I've had positive ketones eating 1+ g/lb of protein.
Capitol Ag
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I am just now fully in the camp that wonders if all of this just way over complicates things. Track your macros, eat in a calorie deficit if you want to lose weight. If you see you aren't losing weight, increase the deficit. Granted, it means eating relatively strict and disciplined, but once you're doing it, it isn't hard. And stop using the scale as much as the mirror. Sure, it helps to know what and how much you have lost, but it can fluctuate greatl0y at times. Just get an averager over a few weeks anf go from there. I figured out a long time ago that if I want to lean out, I keep my protein very high (.8 to even 2.0 X my body weight) and just lower my carb intake. Say, from 300 g to around 50-100g a day. ANd with that, I lower the fats to as low as 20 and average around 50g a day. Granted, I really am a leaner guy, so numbers can vary for others, but this is so so much simpler. In the end, most of us want to be lean to be healthier but a lot of guys I know also want to look good. That's my main goal. Asthetics. SO I do not care about ketosis or blood sugar or whatever. I train for hypertrophy, train with my hair on fire, eat all week to support that and have a little fun of the side. A cheat meal a week. Occasionally a full "cheat" day even. But it just works. I don't worry about seed oils, food coloring etc. B/c I eat so healthy, that stuff really isn't in my food except t hat cheat mean potentially.

Anyway, my 2 cents on this. Hey, if these diets work for you, go for it. But they are not the only way. Look at it this way, if a diet works, its only b/c it has you in a calorie deficit. That's it. There isn't any other magic formula or combo. The science supports that as well. SO the biggest thing is find what you can maintain and do and do not worry about the rest. If you like keto, do it. Fasting? do it whatever? Do it. But just know, just tracking macros (and not like some OCD weirdo-just keep a general, honest knowledge of what you actually put in your mouth) wsorks great as well. Most here are not some special being that only diet "x" is the only thing that will work for you. Deficits are deficits...
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