2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
We got the better end of the deal on the baseball coach. Kept all our players and got the better long term coach.
Delusional.
2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
We got the better end of the deal on the baseball coach. Kept all our players and got the better long term coach.
McKinney Ag69 said:2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
We got the better end of the deal on the baseball coach. Kept all our players and got the better long term coach.
How do you know that? What body of evidence do you have to prove we got a better long term coach?
Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
tu did not allow a single touchdown this year from their main rivals, OU & A&M. Do you think they would not have beat TCU and Baylor this year? They are built for the SEC now and we don't have the dogs in the trenches to compete with them as evidenced Saturday night. We used to when we had Clemens on the D-Line and that great O-Line in 2020. That was the high water mark the last few years and I think we would have beat them several times in a row. Not now.Kellso said:Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
They've won 1 National title the past 50 years.
They are not all that. I've watched OU, TCU and Baylor kick their ass in football and basketball in the post A&M BIGXII.
The game on Saturday sucked, but there is no need to give UT an additional reach around.
UT didn't do much of anything between 2010 to 2022. Many people state the Horns fled the BIGXII because they were tired of the ass whuppings that TCU and Baylor were giving them.
It was ok for the Longhorns to lose to OU, Alabma or Georgia....but getting continually ran off the field by TCU was causing their alums to lose a lot of face.
McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
This has to be the softest thing I have ever read. What kind of message does running away from our rival say about us as a school. Embrace the rivalry, put our heads down, and let's go.
We already did that 12 years ago when we left for the SEC and it was hailed Wholeheartedly by the fanbase as the greatest move in athletic program history. Everyone was so excited to finally get out of their shadow. What has changed now that makes it "soft"?
I swear some of you have Stockholm syndrome when it comes to tu and the SEC. They made a promise when A&M joined and then stabbed us in the back. You get rammed in the a** and say "may I have some more please?"
"She'll change this time. I'm sure of it. I know she didn't really mean to lie and sleep with that other guy."
levypantsEOY said:2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
We got the better end of the deal on the baseball coach. Kept all our players and got the better long term coach.
Delusional.
Missouri went 5-7 (2-6 SEC) in their first year in the SEC. Alabama defeated Georgia 32-28 in the 2012 SEC Championship Game. Missouri won back-to-back SEC East division titles in 2013 and 2014.CatmanBoo said:
They aren't winning the conference, keep your shirt on. Mizzou was in the title game in their first year as well, Manning won't be there forever.
Again, we have to have something different to offer recruits than tu. tu offers the same thing as A&M right now only better.Iraq2xVeteran said:
Running away from the SEC in fear of our in-state rival won't help us attract elite recruits. We have to use both the recruiting trail and transfer portal to construct a roster that has the talent to beat Texas and contend for SEC Championships. Our current roster is not there yet.
Medaggie said:
Them joining the SEC will only make us better. When we have to deal with reality next door, then it will push us to be better and possibly an SEC title.
If they won the big 12 and we went 8-4, we would just say the big 12 is minor leagues and we had a hell of a season beating expectations in Elko's 1st year.
Screw that. We need the heat to push us to better heights. texas getting better will only make us better
This sounds like that means something, but it doesn't. Notre Dame and BYU have one national title each in the last 45 years but anyone would laugh if you said they were equals. Since the 1940s Michigan and Michigan State each have one consensus and one shared title but they are in wildly different worlds of prestige and status overall. In baseball Coastal Carolina has one national championship and Florida State has none. But if anyone suggested Coastal is even on the same planet as Florida State as a baseball power they'd be laughed out of the room.Kellso said:Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
They've won 1 National title the past 50 years.
They are not all that. I've watched OU, TCU and Baylor kick their ass in football and basketball in the post A&M BIGXII.
The game on Saturday sucked, but there is no need to give UT an additional reach around.
UT didn't do much of anything between 2010 to 2022. Many people state the Horns fled the BIGXII because they were tired of the ass whuppings that TCU and Baylor were giving them.
It was ok for the Longhorns to lose to OU, Alabma or Georgia....but getting continually ran off the field by TCU was causing their alums to lose a lot of face.
Most of Texas success in football came when blacks couldn't play college football in the South.Joes said:This sounds like that means something, but it doesn't. Notre Dame and BYU have one national title each in the last 45 years but anyone would laugh if you said they were equals. Since the 1940s Michigan and Michigan State each have one consensus and one shared title but they are in wildly different worlds of prestige and status overall. In baseball Coastal Carolina has one national championship and Florida State has none. But if anyone suggested Coastal is even on the same planet as Florida State as a baseball power they'd be laughed out of the room.Kellso said:Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
They've won 1 National title the past 50 years.
They are not all that. I've watched OU, TCU and Baylor kick their ass in football and basketball in the post A&M BIGXII.
The game on Saturday sucked, but there is no need to give UT an additional reach around.
UT didn't do much of anything between 2010 to 2022. Many people state the Horns fled the BIGXII because they were tired of the ass whuppings that TCU and Baylor were giving them.
It was ok for the Longhorns to lose to OU, Alabma or Georgia....but getting continually ran off the field by TCU was causing their alums to lose a lot of face.
This "When should we start counting?" argument already happened on a recent thread, it comes around often. And as usual everybody has their own definition of what should count: Who cares what happened more than 20 years ago? Who cares what happened before I started watching college football? Who cares what happened before I was born? Who cares what happened before I went to school there? Who cares what happened before WW2? Who cares what happened before the era of polls? Who cares what happened before the forward pass? Who cares what happened before they started counting bowl stats? Who cares what happened before we had the playoffs? And on and on.
Once you go down that road of arbitrarily picking dates and criteria you can make anything look like whatever you want. Watch this: "Since my dad started school at Texas and my family became fans in 1963 Texas has won four national championships, only Alabama, Nebraska, and Miami have more." See?
And I mean, are you suggesting that somehow since integration everything is an even playing field now? Does Idaho have access to regional football talent like A&M does? Does Stanford have access to all the non-genius players that A&M does? Does Kansas have the money that A&M does? Maybe we should wait to count anything until all those and more are addressed.
The other bizarre thing about your argument is that if you throw out stuff before the 70s you actually throw out the vast majority of A&M's success, too.
Texags on 6/23: Schloss is the best coach in the country. How many CWS will he win at A&M?2004FIGHTINTXAG said:levypantsEOY said:2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
We got the better end of the deal on the baseball coach. Kept all our players and got the better long term coach.
Delusional.
We'll see. I think we have a great year and beat the sips. Texas stole our slime ball coach, but it was not a good look for them and everyone outside of tu saw it for what it was.
Alright, there's clearly a racial interest here that I'm not getting drawn into. But A&M and Notre Dame didn't even allow women until the 70s so maybe ease up on the discrimination stuff.Kellso said:Most of Texas success in football came when blacks couldn't play college football in the South.Joes said:This sounds like that means something, but it doesn't. Notre Dame and BYU have one national title each in the last 45 years but anyone would laugh if you said they were equals. Since the 1940s Michigan and Michigan State each have one consensus and one shared title but they are in wildly different worlds of prestige and status overall. In baseball Coastal Carolina has one national championship and Florida State has none. But if anyone suggested Coastal is even on the same planet as Florida State as a baseball power they'd be laughed out of the room.Kellso said:Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
They've won 1 National title the past 50 years.
They are not all that. I've watched OU, TCU and Baylor kick their ass in football and basketball in the post A&M BIGXII.
The game on Saturday sucked, but there is no need to give UT an additional reach around.
UT didn't do much of anything between 2010 to 2022. Many people state the Horns fled the BIGXII because they were tired of the ass whuppings that TCU and Baylor were giving them.
It was ok for the Longhorns to lose to OU, Alabma or Georgia....but getting continually ran off the field by TCU was causing their alums to lose a lot of face.
This "When should we start counting?" argument already happened on a recent thread, it comes around often. And as usual everybody has their own definition of what should count: Who cares what happened more than 20 years ago? Who cares what happened before I started watching college football? Who cares what happened before I was born? Who cares what happened before I went to school there? Who cares what happened before WW2? Who cares what happened before the era of polls? Who cares what happened before the forward pass? Who cares what happened before they started counting bowl stats? Who cares what happened before we had the playoffs? And on and on.
Once you go down that road of arbitrarily picking dates and criteria you can make anything look like whatever you want. Watch this: "Since my dad started school at Texas and my family became fans in 1963 Texas has won four national championships, only Alabama, Nebraska, and Miami have more." See?
And I mean, are you suggesting that somehow since integration everything is an even playing field now? Does Idaho have access to regional football talent like A&M does? Does Stanford have access to all the non-genius players that A&M does? Does Kansas have the money that A&M does? Maybe we should wait to count anything until all those and more are addressed.
The other bizarre thing about your argument is that if you throw out stuff before the 70s you actually throw out the vast majority of A&M's success, too.
The average black kid from Texas could give two sh**ts what Texas accomplished in the 1960's, or that the 1969 Texas Longhorns were the last all white National Title team.
The Texas Longhorn football program stopped being dominant after integration happened. Most people consider the modern age of college football to be after 1970.
A lot of people from Texas (and it seems like you are one of them) love to put the Longhorns on a pedestal that they frankly don't belong.
OU became a superior college football program to Texas because Barry Switzer was quicker to embrace and recruit black kids in the 1970's. To this day....black kids in Texas tend to prefer OU over Texas.
Since integration OU has 4 National Titles (74, 75, 85, 2000) and 28 Conference Titles while in that same time frame the Texas Longhorns have 1 National Title (2005) and 14 conference titles.
OU won the BIGXII 15 times. Texas won the BIGXII 4 times.
In the 5 Decades since integration birthed modern college football the Texas Longhorns have done the following:
1970's: Still really good
1980's: Average
1990's Average
2000's: Elite
2010s: Average
People from Texas like to act like the Texas Longhorns are like the Lakers or the Yankees....and the reality is that they are just a school that has won 1 National Title in football or basketball over the past 50 years.
Women don't play football. Men are meant to be in combat and it was a military school at the time. Who cares.Joes said:Alright, there's clearly a racial interest here that I'm not getting drawn into. But A&M and Notre Dame didn't even allow women until the 70s so maybe ease up on the discrimination stuff.Kellso said:Most of Texas success in football came when blacks couldn't play college football in the South.Joes said:This sounds like that means something, but it doesn't. Notre Dame and BYU have one national title each in the last 45 years but anyone would laugh if you said they were equals. Since the 1940s Michigan and Michigan State each have one consensus and one shared title but they are in wildly different worlds of prestige and status overall. In baseball Coastal Carolina has one national championship and Florida State has none. But if anyone suggested Coastal is even on the same planet as Florida State as a baseball power they'd be laughed out of the room.Kellso said:Texas has won 1 National Title since college football was integrated in the early 1970's.McKinney Ag69 said:WesTexas51 said:
Bro is projecting. Stop running away and being soft. Face our problems.
Enjoy the same exact result as the Fran years then when tu ate our lunch on the recruiting trail and beat us in our house regularly. Nothing will ever change if you do the exact same thing and keep expecting a different result.
If we remain in a conference with tu, we will have to face the biased media slobbering over them at every turn and putting A&M down, entire halves of the season without a holding call against our opponents, bad schedule draws, losing elite recruits head to head and more. Bookmark this for a few years from now and I'll say I told you so. Some of you don't remember what it was like to be conference mates with them.
They've won 1 National title the past 50 years.
They are not all that. I've watched OU, TCU and Baylor kick their ass in football and basketball in the post A&M BIGXII.
The game on Saturday sucked, but there is no need to give UT an additional reach around.
UT didn't do much of anything between 2010 to 2022. Many people state the Horns fled the BIGXII because they were tired of the ass whuppings that TCU and Baylor were giving them.
It was ok for the Longhorns to lose to OU, Alabma or Georgia....but getting continually ran off the field by TCU was causing their alums to lose a lot of face.
This "When should we start counting?" argument already happened on a recent thread, it comes around often. And as usual everybody has their own definition of what should count: Who cares what happened more than 20 years ago? Who cares what happened before I started watching college football? Who cares what happened before I was born? Who cares what happened before I went to school there? Who cares what happened before WW2? Who cares what happened before the era of polls? Who cares what happened before the forward pass? Who cares what happened before they started counting bowl stats? Who cares what happened before we had the playoffs? And on and on.
Once you go down that road of arbitrarily picking dates and criteria you can make anything look like whatever you want. Watch this: "Since my dad started school at Texas and my family became fans in 1963 Texas has won four national championships, only Alabama, Nebraska, and Miami have more." See?
And I mean, are you suggesting that somehow since integration everything is an even playing field now? Does Idaho have access to regional football talent like A&M does? Does Stanford have access to all the non-genius players that A&M does? Does Kansas have the money that A&M does? Maybe we should wait to count anything until all those and more are addressed.
The other bizarre thing about your argument is that if you throw out stuff before the 70s you actually throw out the vast majority of A&M's success, too.
The average black kid from Texas could give two sh**ts what Texas accomplished in the 1960's, or that the 1969 Texas Longhorns were the last all white National Title team.
The Texas Longhorn football program stopped being dominant after integration happened. Most people consider the modern age of college football to be after 1970.
A lot of people from Texas (and it seems like you are one of them) love to put the Longhorns on a pedestal that they frankly don't belong.
OU became a superior college football program to Texas because Barry Switzer was quicker to embrace and recruit black kids in the 1970's. To this day....black kids in Texas tend to prefer OU over Texas.
Since integration OU has 4 National Titles (74, 75, 85, 2000) and 28 Conference Titles while in that same time frame the Texas Longhorns have 1 National Title (2005) and 14 conference titles.
OU won the BIGXII 15 times. Texas won the BIGXII 4 times.
In the 5 Decades since integration birthed modern college football the Texas Longhorns have done the following:
1970's: Still really good
1980's: Average
1990's Average
2000's: Elite
2010s: Average
People from Texas like to act like the Texas Longhorns are like the Lakers or the Yankees....and the reality is that they are just a school that has won 1 National Title in football or basketball over the past 50 years.
And most average kids of any color couldn't care less what happened 10 years ago or 5 years ago for that matter so I guess let's just stop keeping records altogether. Does it really matter right now that Michigan won it last year or Alabama has won a bunch last decade?
it's literally laughable that you would actually believe the Big Ten would admit Texas A&MMcKinney Ag69 said:
In the last 5 months tu has:
-Joined our conference
-Hired away our baseball coach
-Beat A&M at Kyle Field
-Clinched a berth in the SEC title game in their first year when A&M still has 0 title game appearances
This is a lot of fun. Things are going fantastic for our athletic department as we get shoved into a locker and clowned on again.
Im so glad they joined the SEC and our admins were duped by thinking a handshake deal would keep them out.
So many of you wanted to play them again. Happy now? Reading all that reinforces to me that we need to leave the conference and never be in one with them again. Our rivals can be tech, Baylor, tcu, or we should join the big 10.
We were all soooo sure things were going to be different now that we had an new stadium, facilities, better recruiting and we puffed out our chest when we got the greatest recruiting class of all time which turned out to be a complete bust.
We thought the SEC would be to physical for them and we would have a leg up on them when we played them in Kyle field again, but they completely dominated both lines of scrimmage from the first snap and we didn't score a single point on offense.
You could have said the exact same thing about USC, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon very recently. ILMCane said:it's literally laughable that you would actually believe the Big Ten would admit Texas A&MMcKinney Ag69 said:
In the last 5 months tu has:
-Joined our conference
-Hired away our baseball coach
-Beat A&M at Kyle Field
-Clinched a berth in the SEC title game in their first year when A&M still has 0 title game appearances
This is a lot of fun. Things are going fantastic for our athletic department as we get shoved into a locker and clowned on again.
Im so glad they joined the SEC and our admins were duped by thinking a handshake deal would keep them out.
So many of you wanted to play them again. Happy now? Reading all that reinforces to me that we need to leave the conference and never be in one with them again. Our rivals can be tech, Baylor, tcu, or we should join the big 10.
We were all soooo sure things were going to be different now that we had an new stadium, facilities, better recruiting and we puffed out our chest when we got the greatest recruiting class of all time which turned out to be a complete bust.
We thought the SEC would be to physical for them and we would have a leg up on them when we played them in Kyle field again, but they completely dominated both lines of scrimmage from the first snap and we didn't score a single point on offense.
Kenneth_2003 said:That's why all of his players followed him and left us with a few trainers and a janitor to take the field next year? Oh. That's right, only his pitching coach followed him and none of the pitchers or any other players.1876er said:annie88 said:
They did us a favor with SchlossSNAKEggle.
Good riddance.
You're delusional. Schloss was the only elite coach we had on campus outside of T&F. It'll be a while before we are back in Omaha.
That says something...
HeyAbbott said:
Schloss is a fraud