chick79 said:

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I'm an endowed donor since 1982 so my tickets are free. I generally make two games a year and sell the rest. So, financially I make out fine. I wouldn't pay any money for the garbage we've been putting out for decades.

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Not complaining…but you might be part of the problem not part of the solution…

I got into hunting rather than watching the games during Covid/the campus protest fiasco.

I'm much happier now! You'll be ok. Spend more time with the family.

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bigjag19 said:

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But why?

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They said there was "a change in policy"...

They said my company did not match gifts to athletics. That is nothing new, and has been the case for well over 10-15 years (since before my kids were born). However, they informed me that was not an issue and to just send a letter stating that the request from my company should come from Texas A&M rather than the 12th Man.

So apparently I just became expendable. Like I said, it's no big deal. I have better ways to spend my time, but it's just disheartening to have to explain to my kids why we won't be continuing this fall tradition that they have always known since they were babies.

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Actually I think you have it the other way around. The Company or it's Foundation(s) have from time to time NOT donated to Athletic School Funds. Supposedly that was based upon some recent tax ruling. Has anyone ever seen a university turn down a donation?
Had that happen a few decades ago.
Now it's possible that some of this is how they are designating funds for School purposes or specifically for NIL payments.

You should just be hopeful that your company's compliance people, and the IRS, don't look into this too closely and move on

The fact that next years home slate is hot garbage and we lost to the horns has nothing to do with the decision

I get giving up Season tickets they are expensive and hard to resell unless it is a premium night game the loss of employer match increased the price by I am guessing about 25% and after how last years ended I can see deciding not to pay more

Ghost91 said:

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To summarize:

- OP wants his employer to match his donations to the 12th Man Foundation, not to the overall university, so he can get better seats at Kyle.

- Random Student Worker circa 2001 tells him, "Umm, looks like we're not supposed to, but just send a letter each year and it should be fine."

- OP sends a letter each year for 25 consecutive years, skirts rules/legal/financial requirements likely intended for both his employer and the university, and enjoys great seats on the 45-yd line.

- University version of DOGE finally cleans up (one of their many) their make-it-up-as-we-go local yokel practices and informs OP no mas.

- OP blames 12th Man for reverting back to rules & policy.

I'd say you had a fantastic run and let it go, bruh.

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Sounds like OP was living a life he couldn't afford.

OP hasn't shared enough to know there is anything fishy going on, But the post you are quoting is a reasonable analysis of one possible scenario and your comment is spot on. But I'd give the OP a bit of grace. Al of us find cheats at points in our lives and leverage the heck out of them. One favorite of Texans, because Texas is so big, is speeding. Yes Jimmy Carter was an idiot and yes the northeast (aka Yankees") like dictating to the rest of the U.S. how to behave via jacking with federal payments (see every interference by the federal government but especially Title IX and Obamacare/Medicaid).

I do think very few people understand that tax compliance is improved by cutting out tax carve outs and lowering the tax rates either via growing and reducing brackets, going to a flat tax, focusing on consumption taxation (aka national sales tax), or the current rather short-sighted attempt to go back to tariffs (which McKinley abandoned after being the King of Tariffs before Trump because we needed to export goods to sell our now robust manufactured goods inventories during his presidency.)

The three, primary mandatory spend entitlements are about to induce higher debt service than military spending. That is the point of no return for most nations especially when the next war starts. So those of us supporting one of the best schooos for producing active service officers (other than the service academies should want to not impoverish our nation and should want to hit cheat on taxes as a matter of public service.

My only tax dodge is tax sheltered regular 401k and I likely will start moving all of my sheltered savings to Roth 401k and just pay the taxes. Most individual tax payers with the current standard deduction don't itemize anymore, too. Simplify the taxation and get rid of all tax carve outs should be the goal of the OP if he is a model citizen.

Good post. I didn't take his post as doing anything illegal, he played by the rules as they were at the time. But to blame the 12th Man for playing by the new tax laws- that have been in place so nice the first year Trump was in office is pretty disingenuous- but that is just my opinion.

At best, it's fraud.

Maybe the price will go down a bit for those who never had the company match BS. Wishful thinking

Life is so much easier when you don't give a **** about Aggie athletics. Probably caring too much for over 50 years while spending a lot of money on it hasn't done a lot for me. Since I quit caring so much, I have been much happier. Sure, I will come on here and interact as well as *****, but not caring if I miss a game has been sort of a blessing.

The OPs employer was paying some of their seat donations?

Southlake said:

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Who cares, they are all paid athletes. No emotional connection anymore.

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This. It applies to all of them. Oil money bought Tech a team. I hope it crashes right along with all this NIL BS.

I don't agree. A lot of companies did matching gifts to employees donations to colleges, when the tax laws changed they only matched to education only things, now a lot of them no longer do any matches.

You can disagree all you want.

The OP's company said no more matching donations for athletics. OP and 12th man foundation apparently said sweet, just donate to A&M and we'll apply that to your 12th man foundation account. Not sure how you don't see that as fraud…

Also, it may be tax reasons, may not. My company has a no athletic donation match policy as well. And it's not because of tax implications. It's because dip****s realize they can make their travel ball teams 501c3's and then only have to pay half their dues and have the company pay the rest. Company doesn't think that's a good use of their charitable dollars. I agree.

I don't disagree that now you are right. For decades they matched with no questions.

There will be plenty of empty seats on game day in the south endzone. Book it!

You might regret posting this, OP. They may come after you and seek to repay the amounts since 2017. I don't blame you for deciding against renewal, but I would agree you should feel great that you received the benefits longer than you could have. I lost the matching ability a few years ago and i miss it, but for my money it's still a good investment.