I am also lost. OP does not understand basic grammar, and that makes it difficult.

Maybe your company supports DEI or ******s

Maybe that is why. /s

Ignore all the peanut gallery carping about contradictory company policies, tax implications, and the 12th Man Foundation's duty to make it work, etc.

Godspeed AgBQ_95.

"The 12th Man Foundation is a Section 501(c)(3) charitable organization. Philanthropic donations that are not tied to ticket purchases may be up to 100% tax deductible for federal income tax purposes. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passed in 2017 may affect part of your donations to the 12th Man Foundation. Previously, Internal Revenue Code section 170(1) allowed for an 80% charitable deduction for donations given resulting in a right to purchase seating in athletic venues. The new tax bill has eliminated this charitable deduction and became effective January 1, 2018. Donors should consult their tax advisor to determine the deductibility of their gift. The Foundation will provide a tax receipt at the beginning of each year."

Section titled "Is a 12th Man Foundation donation tax deductible?"
From: https://www.12thmanfoundation.com/about-us/faq/index.html

I'll note if it isn't deductible for YOU your company can't deduct a match, either. Employers are also limited to 10% of annual income in tax deductions for charitable giving.

"2. Tax-Deductible Contributions for Companies
The IRS deems donations to eligible 501(c)3 nonprofit organizations as tax-deductible. This rule pertains to both employees and their employers.

Specifically, corporations can take up to 10 percent of their annual income in tax deductions from charitable giving. However, a major exception to this rule is matching gifts.

Since a matching gift is technically a donation, companies can deduct the matches they make from their reported income. Decreasing reported income means a company will not have to pay taxes on the donated money.

Plus, the 10 percent rule doesn't apply to these donations. Instead, when matching donations exceed 10 percent of the company's annual income, companies can deduct the extra donations."

From: https://doublethedonation.com/tax-benefits-of-corporate-matching-gifts/

OP might want to be clearer about who denied the matching contribution and specifics if you aren't just trolling. But also engage a tax accountant to discuss…

My company limits matching contributions when they are ineligible for charitable tax deductions.

Consider this approach and discuss with tax accountant, employer, and TMF. My guess is the priority point award is the problem. But you may voluntarily forgo it.

https://www.12thmanplus.com/membership-giving/major-gifts/index.html

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Matsui said:

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you can still go to every game without donating
just buy tickets week to week

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I'm aware of this - but I have tickets on the east side - 45 yard line first deck. I'm not going to be able to touch tickets in that area and frankly, after being treated this way, I am not sure I want to attend anymore Aggie Athletic events. Maybe after time passes, but right now I have a really sour taste in my mouth that I don't see going away anytime soon.

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Hear is a word of warning in regard to potential future season tickets that may be many years down the road for you:

I dropped my season tickets after the 2014 season. It was because in my occupation, Fall is the busiest season of the year. I was not able to make all of the games. I still had kids at home that took a lot of my weekends as well. I decided to drop my tickets and just cherry pick 1 or 2 games per year. I bought them off of the TexAgs Ticket Exchange.

When my renewal for the 12th Man Foundation arrived in the mail, I did not renew since I was not purchasing season tickets. I decided that I would pay my membership when I eventually started purchasing season tickets again.

When I did not renew, The 12th Man Foundation DELETED every single one of my priority points. That ticked me off more than anything else. I earned those points over a number of seasons. I argued with them many times on the phone and in person. It made zero sense to me how they could take something I earned. That was their new policy.

If you have built up priority points, protect those points buy paying their minimum membership fees. When you get to be my age, you might decide to buy season tickets again. If and when that day comes, at least you will still have your priority points. You will not have to start over from scratch.

AgBQ_95 said:

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After 25 years of season tickets to Aggie Football, I was informed today by the 12th Man Foundation that they will no longer be accepting matching gifts from my employer. As such, I am unwilling to double the amount of my donation to an organization who it seems has zero loyalty. Good luck to you all, but I think my Saturdays and my money will be better spent elsewhere.

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Your Saturdays will be much better spent. Watch the games on TV and if it goes South, just turn it off and do something else. This football program doesn't deserve your money.

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AgBQ_95 said:

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Matsui said:

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you can still go to every game without donating
just buy tickets week to week

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I'm aware of this - but I have tickets on the east side - 45 yard line first deck. I'm not going to be able to touch tickets in that area and frankly, after being treated this way, I am not sure I want to attend anymore Aggie Athletic events. Maybe after time passes, but right now I have a really sour taste in my mouth that I don't see going away anytime soon.

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That really stinks man but all we are to them are dollar bills. A&M doesn't care about anything but money and DEI.

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Wow you seem surprised.

I knew this 25 years ago man.

You didn't read well. This has been my company's policy for 15+ years and the 12th Man made it work. Something changed in their end (the 12th Man) and I became expendable.

There is no issue on my end. I got an email directly from the 12thMan Foundation, but continue being an azz if it makes you feel bigger azzhat.

AgBQ_95 said:

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After 25 years of season tickets to Aggie Football, I was informed today by the 12th Man Foundation that they will no longer be accepting matching gifts from my employer. As such, I am unwilling to double the amount of my donation to an organization who it seems has zero loyalty. Good luck to you all, but I think my Saturdays and my money will be better spent elsewhere.

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You showed them!

The OP should directly address SunrayAg's post re: a change in IRS policy.

If this is about the IRS, then your anger is misplaced.

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But why?

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They said there was "a change in policy"...

They said my company did not match gifts to athletics. That is nothing new, and has been the case for well over 10-15 years (since before my kids were born). However, they informed me that was not an issue and to just send a letter stating that the request from my company should come from Texas A&M rather than the 12th Man.

So apparently I just became expendable. Like I said, it's no big deal. I have better ways to spend my time, but it's just disheartening to have to explain to my kids why we won't be continuing this fall tradition that they have always known since they were babies.

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Are you going to tell them that it's because you're indignant and decided on your own to no longer attend A&M games?

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This right here.


Spend your money and your time how you want. But at least be honest with your kids on why the tradition is ending

I've always struggled giving money to an institution that arguably has as much or more than anyone else and still screws it up

Donate to juvenile diabetes or American cancer society or even youth sports programs as something that actually matters.

I've been a grad for over 25 years and never gave A&M a dime.

I paid them tuition, they gave me an education. Beyond that, I buy Aggie "stuff" like decals, mugs etc and I honestly love the University (for some personal reasons). My car license plate says Texas A&M and I have hoodies with Tex A&M on it which my daughter steals and wears to school. She is the only one with A&M on as we don't live in Texas.

But donation? No. I need my money more than the school does. Also, A&M is a corporation. And Corporations are slimy and scummy. Corporations have a CEO (in this case President) and they are all greedy money grubbers. I don't want to contribute toward paying his massive salary/bonus.

So no.

As I have gotten older, I feel more like giving back. I will pick causes that resonate and donate my time and money. Not to A&M BMAs to pay some loserly coach or even more loserly players.

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Who cares, they are all paid athletes. No emotional connection anymore.

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This.

Who would donate to an NFL team. With the new media deal the transition to a pro model is complete. The school pays players based upon negotiations with the players. Each player can change teams from year to year based upon those negotiations.

Why on earth should I care?

You forgot "Started a thread to complain publicly, victimized himself and said he felt 'expendable' and has a sour taste in his mouth, but if anyone points that out, he then claims he doesn't have an issue and pointing out that ridiculousness makes you an azzhat."

Also, it's always hilarious when people who don't have season tix, have no intention of having season tix, etc, flock to these threads to let us know how proud they are that they don't donate in order to get better tickets.

Thanks for letting us know about your high horse!

It's a Clydesdale tall high horse!!! 16 to 18 hands tall!!!

The change was in the tax laws during Trump's first term. Donations to a University are still deductible, donations given in return for consideration- i.e. tickets, priority for tickets, etc. are not. The 12th Man sent out notices on this and even had a plan where you could donate up to five years (I think that was the number) in advance and be able to legally take the deduction. It has nothing to do with anyone's value to the 12th Man.

Some companies do match any donations to universities for any reason.

Aren't those called "Dear Diary..." posts?

AgBQ_95 said:

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After 25 years of season tickets to Aggie Football, I was informed today by the 12th Man Foundation that they will no longer be accepting matching gifts from my employer. As such, I am unwilling to double the amount of my donation to an organization who it seems has zero loyalty. Good luck to you all, but I think my Saturdays and my money will be better spent elsewhere.

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I gave up 8 season tickets, 4 were mine, 4 were my fathers, in 2019. We had them since 1972. The entire football experience has turned into massive experience for the wealthy. I'm not into expensive NFL and I'm sure not going to contribute to making college football the same. I can do much more with mega dollars than watch a futile college football program nor am I going to contribute to minor league egotistical football players becoming quite wealthy by signing with a university. Six months later these players are going to transfer for another mega deal.

They're called "LOOK AT ME" posts.

"I've never given A&M a dime after I graduated and I don't live in the state of Texas, but I'll drop by to make sure that everyone knows I don't give anything."

Cool story bro. We all know the 12MF ain't calling asking you for money either.

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I can do much more with mega dollars than watch a futile college football program!

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I'm going to go ahead and guess that you were NOT, in fact, giving "MEGA" dollars.

AgBQ_95 said:

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You didn't read well. This has been my company's policy for 15+ years and the 12th Man made it work. Something changed in their end (the 12th Man) and I became expendable.

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So they did you a solid for 15 years and you got good seats as a result. And now that their policy changed and your company's matching donation to the university can no longer be counted towards your donation level to the 12MF, you want to play victim and cry about it.

Give me a break, man. It's not the 12MF's fault that you think you're too good to get seats in the Zone.

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After 25 years of season tickets to Aggie Football, I was informed today by the 12th Man Foundation that they will no longer be accepting matching gifts from my employer. As such, I am unwilling to double the amount of my donation to an organization who it seems has zero loyalty. Good luck to you all, but I think my Saturdays and my money will be better spent elsewhere.

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I gave up 8 season tickets, 4 were mine, 4 were my fathers, in 2019. We had them since 1972. The entire football experience has turned into massive experience for the wealthy. I'm not into expensive NFL and I'm sure not going to contribute to making college football the same. I can do much more with mega dollars than watch a futile college football program nor am I going to contribute to minor league egotistical football players becoming quite wealthy by signing with a university. Six months later these players are going to transfer for another mega deal.

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It's where the entire country is going. Just a place for the wealthy.
If you are poor, you are stuck being miserable for life.

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They're called "LOOK AT ME" posts.

"I've never given A&M a dime after I graduated and I don't live in the state of Texas, but I'll drop by to make sure that everyone knows I don't give anything."

Cool story bro. We all know the 12MF ain't calling asking you for money either.

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Stop crying.

I get emails from the 12MF begging me for money. I just hit the big D key on my keyboard.

But tell me, why are you so triggered? Are you jealous?
Or are you pissed that the 12MF suckered you for decades and you ended up getting conned for 10s or 100s of thousands?

Lol- jealous of what? I make a choice every year to renew my seats, and if I felt conned, I wouldn't do it.

Just don't think anybody gives a fk about how much money you don't donate when you have ZERO intentions of having season tix. No one cares, but you thought you'd deliver a little high horse lecture.

Everyone knows that 99.999% of 12MF donors are doing it for the season tix.

I'm an endowed donor since 1982 so my tickets are free. I generally make two games a year and sell the rest. So, financially I make out fine. I wouldn't pay any money for the garbage we've been putting out for decades.

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Lol- jealous of what? I make a choice every year to renew my seats, and if I felt conned, I wouldn't do it.

Just don't think anybody gives a fk about how much money you don't donate when you have ZERO intentions of having season tix. No one cares, but you thought you'd deliver a little high horse lecture.

Everyone knows that 99.999% of 12MF donors are doing it for the season tix.

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If you don't like reading posts here, time to GTFO to the children's board.
What's with all the estrogen these days??

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I'm an endowed donor since 1982 so my tickets are free. I generally make two games a year and sell the rest. So, financially I make out fine. I wouldn't pay any money for the garbage we've been putting out for decades.

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It seems like the 2020 season with the Top 5 finish and the JFF years with the Heisman would have been worth paying something rhetorically if necessary despite being an endowed donor whose tickets are free and largely sold.

You're the one who doesn't like reading posts that call out the stupidity of saying "I will never donate" even though you're never going to donate bc season tix are infeasible if you live out of state.

Sorry you didn't like a spade being called a spade, and not just the blue stars you wanted.

(We all know you hate women, and you mostly just hate that the 12MF employs women in a business function anyway.)

Maybe just have a real point next time if you're going to try to have one.