The portal is not the issue. It's that NIL is out of control. Before NIL, athletes went where they could get playing time and do better for their future NFL chances. Coaches get fired, no reason to punish a kid who didn't want to play for the new coach. Look how many Heisman winners and runner ups went to new programs to make them better.

The portal works both ways.

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Right, the hiring school actually pays it

Same should go for transfers

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That *can* be put in an NIL contract right now.

The problem is if you demand that, and your competitor does not, which deal is the kid most likely to take?

There's not going to be any standardization of NIL deals allowed.

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The portal is not the issue. It's that NIL is out of control. Before NIL, athletes went where they could get playing time and do better for their future NFL chances. Coaches get fired, no reason to punish a kid who didn't want to play for the new coach. Look how many Heisman winners and runner ups went to new programs to make them better.

The portal works both ways.

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So…the portal is Highway 6?????

My biggest problem with NIL/Portal is the lexicon. Truthfully, we need to cease referring to players as commitments and more accurately refer to them as hires.

The NCAA is trying to avoid calling them employees. And today's external NIL doesn't make them employees but independent contractors which are NOT statutory nor contractual direct employees. Maybe you need to improve your lexicon rather than imposing terms that don't fit?

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Gonna have to disagree, from a fan/alum standpoint. What made the game great was being able to point to Ray Childress and Jacob Green and Rodney Thomas and Bucky Richardson and go "that guy……..he's one of us. That's a Fightin Texas Aggie."
Now that there's no loyalty from the player side, expect no loyalty from the fan side in return.

I'm okay with a one time transfer in the event of a coaching change, a family hardship, things out of the player's control. I get that. But when you've got guys whoring themselves out to their 5th or 6th team just chasing a buck……no. I don't feel you at all and you don't represent me in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

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I think the eternal question is: who bought the good Trans Am for Eric? Because that person made a lie of what you feel.

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dixichkn said:

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Gonna have to disagree, from a fan/alum standpoint. What made the game great was being able to point to Ray Childress and Jacob Green and Rodney Thomas and Bucky Richardson and go "that guy……..he's one of us. That's a Fightin Texas Aggie."
Now that there's no loyalty from the player side, expect no loyalty from the fan side in return.

I'm okay with a one time transfer in the event of a coaching change, a family hardship, things out of the player's control. I get that. But when you've got guys whoring themselves out to their 5th or 6th team just chasing a buck……no. I don't feel you at all and you don't represent me in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

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I think the eternal question is: who bought the good Trans Am for Eric? Because that person made a lie of what you feel.

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I think the eternal question is: Who is the 5th or 6th team Eric Dickerson transferred to.

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There needs to be an emphasis on academics and graduation rate like there used to be. Didn't schools used to receive penalties if they fell behind here?

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There needs to be regulation but an emphasis on education is done, I think. I suspect you will start seeing schools like ND, Stanford etc. changing their standards to compete. I hope I am wrong.

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Johnny Boyziel 2 said:

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There needs to be an emphasis on academics and graduation rate like there used to be. Didn't schools used to receive penalties if they fell behind here?

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There needs to be regulation but an emphasis on education is done, I think. I suspect you will start seeing schools like ND, Stanford etc. changing their standards to compete. I hope I am wrong.

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Academic progress is still part of the new system. That doesn't mean every student will be a serious student unfortunately.

But then again what percentage of students never graduate from A&M or transfer out??? I would say at least a third of folks I knew failed to graduate or transferred out…

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dixichkn said:

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Gonna have to disagree, from a fan/alum standpoint. What made the game great was being able to point to Ray Childress and Jacob Green and Rodney Thomas and Bucky Richardson and go "that guy……..he's one of us. That's a Fightin Texas Aggie."
Now that there's no loyalty from the player side, expect no loyalty from the fan side in return.

I'm okay with a one time transfer in the event of a coaching change, a family hardship, things out of the player's control. I get that. But when you've got guys whoring themselves out to their 5th or 6th team just chasing a buck……no. I don't feel you at all and you don't represent me in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

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I think the eternal question is: who bought the good Trans Am for Eric? Because that person made a lie of what you feel.

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How many teams did Eric Dickerson transfer to?

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greg.w.h said:

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dixichkn said:

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Gonna have to disagree, from a fan/alum standpoint. What made the game great was being able to point to Ray Childress and Jacob Green and Rodney Thomas and Bucky Richardson and go "that guy……..he's one of us. That's a Fightin Texas Aggie."
Now that there's no loyalty from the player side, expect no loyalty from the fan side in return.

I'm okay with a one time transfer in the event of a coaching change, a family hardship, things out of the player's control. I get that. But when you've got guys whoring themselves out to their 5th or 6th team just chasing a buck……no. I don't feel you at all and you don't represent me in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

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I think the eternal question is: who bought the good Trans Am for Eric? Because that person made a lie of what you feel.

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How many teams did Eric Dickerson transfer to?

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How many apartments and trans ams did he get? Are you suggesting he didn't get a trans am from us then "transfer" to SMU?

Btw: I interacted with SMU tight end Albert Reese several times at my workplace. And his girlfriend confirmed the DMN story. So I know he was paid under the table…

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greg.w.h said:

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dixichkn said:

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Gonna have to disagree, from a fan/alum standpoint. What made the game great was being able to point to Ray Childress and Jacob Green and Rodney Thomas and Bucky Richardson and go "that guy……..he's one of us. That's a Fightin Texas Aggie."
Now that there's no loyalty from the player side, expect no loyalty from the fan side in return.

I'm okay with a one time transfer in the event of a coaching change, a family hardship, things out of the player's control. I get that. But when you've got guys whoring themselves out to their 5th or 6th team just chasing a buck……no. I don't feel you at all and you don't represent me in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

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I think the eternal question is: who bought the good Trans Am for Eric? Because that person made a lie of what you feel.

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How many teams did Eric Dickerson transfer to?

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How many apartments and trans ams did he get? Are you suggesting he didn't get a trans am from us then "transfer" to SMU?

Btw: I interacted with SMU tight end Albert Reese several times at my workplace. And his girlfriend confirmed the DMN story. So I know he was paid under the table…

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Yep

But played his whole career at smu once he got there.

In todays world he's a guy that would have transferred 3 times to the highest bidder

Sadly, the fans are paying for this, and in the end, the game will suffer so there won't be a fanbase to generate the funds to pay the kids the NIL.

This is the truth. We want players that are recruited by and graduate from our schools.

In response to AggieFire, I don't care how many Heisman trophy winners went to another school. I care about Aggie Athletics and therefore Aggie Athletes. However, it is getting harder and harder to care about anything when the athletes themselves don't care about anything but the money.

I think most people are fine with athletes making money. The disparity between the A&Ms and T.U.s of the world and the Washington States and TCUs is another conversation. What people are not ok with are the players showing ZERO loyalty to anything other than the dollar. The NBA created and is facing the same challenge right now with player movement. That is player orientation over team orientation. In College, player orientation is a much more difficult sell because a large population of the fan base has a financial tie to the team (alumni).

A lot of fans in college sports enjoy cheering on the teams because they feel like they share a common experience to the players as former students of the same University. You can make whatever comments you want to about how realistic that "common" experience is, but that is what motivates lots of fans. That is being destroyed by the constant movement of players.

People have been making fun of the "100% Committed" posts on social for years now. It is only a matter of time before they lose interest in the sport because the players motivations are so different from their own.

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This is the truth. We want players that are recruited by and graduate from our schools.

In response to AggieFire, I don't care how many Heisman trophy winners went to another school. I care about Aggie Athletics and therefore Aggie Athletes. However, it is getting harder and harder to care about anything when the athletes themselves don't care about anything but the money.

I think most people are fine with athletes making money. The disparity between the A&Ms and T.U.s of the world and the Washington States and TCUs is another conversation. What people are not ok with are the players showing ZERO loyalty to anything other than the dollar. The NBA created and is facing the same challenge right now with player movement. That is player orientation over team orientation. In College, player orientation is a much more difficult sell because a large population of the fan base has a financial tie to the team (alumni).

A lot of fans in college sports enjoy cheering on the teams because they feel like they share a common experience to the players as former students of the same University. You can make whatever comments you want to about how realistic that "common" experience is, but that is what motivates lots of fans. That is being destroyed by the constant movement of players.

People have been making fun of the "100% Committed" posts on social for years now. It is only a matter of time before they lose interest in the sport because the players motivations are so different from their own.

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Truth

It's already starting to happen

I think it will happen less at a school that has a lot of tshirt fans vs a school like A&M where the former students feel such an attachment to their school that goes beyond football

If you make student athletes employees then eligibility limits will be gone or at least challenged in the courts.

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If you make student athletes employees then eligibility limits will be gone or at least challenged in the courts.

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Neither the NCAA nor the plaintiffs in the class that Wilkins is overseeing the House settlement want formal or statutory employment. Maybe those trying to make it employment are wrong?

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I remember when Ags would say we were going to be the biggest benefactors of this NIL ruling because our pockets were so deep and we were so ahead of the curve with our NIL packages...redneck accounting! yada yada yada.

What a load of **** that turned out to be.

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There is alot of really useful and accurate info available on this website. Unfortunately, mens sports are not one of them.