tamc91 said:
Based on the ref's signal it was supposed to be an illegal chop block. How in the world can that be a legitimate call against the kicking team?!
That fecal brown color.
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That fecal brown color.
Sky cast was recorded on SEC Network. It looked like Brooks and 2 others got tangled up. Not worthy of a flag.
kb2001 said:
Other than that weird call, which wasn't explained and never shown on tv, I thought it was a pretty good game by the refs. Only two obvious bad non-calls, the non-call PI on the Ags, and the non-call intentional grounding on the sips. Both were egregious and should have been called, but they weren't.
The only other shadiness were some signs of disconcerting calls by the sips defense. The announcers even referred to it when the left side of our O-line jumped, and the announcers referred to some claps from the sips' defense, but no flags, and no replays to show anything.
It was egregiously terrible.
Between the neutral zone infractions, disconcerting signals, and holding, it was probably the 3rd worst job they've done at one of our games this season.
TonyD33 said:
That penalty can be called on either team. I didn't see it either but the penalty was for someone going low on a kickoff, which neither the kicking nor receiving team can do.
But the kicking team is not blocking.
They have no reason to hit anyone except the ball carrier.
dabo man said:
ESPN only has 11 or 12 cameras at these games. It's not like an NFL production where they catch everything.
Lot's of other cameras on the sidelines though and lots of smartphones in the stands.
EDIT - I suspect footage of whatever happened to come out in the next few days.
How many cameras do you need to show that there was a complete reversal of 30 yards of field position that started with an illegal block against the receiving team that suddenly turned into a 15-yard plus play in favor of the receiving team?
Maybe one. But it was never shown, and even the announcers had zero clue what happened?
Incredible.
You'd need one camera that caught the play. This wouldn't be the first A&M game this season with a controversial penalty that went against the Ags and wasn't captured by an ESPN/ABC camera.
dabo man said:
You'd need one camera that caught the play. This wouldn't be the first A&M game this season with a controversial penalty that went against the Ags and "wasn't captured by an ESPN/ABC camera."
FIFY.
dabo man said:
You'd need one camera that caught the play. This wouldn't be the first A&M game this season with a controversial penalty that went against the Ags and wasn't captured by an ESPN/ABC camera.
Ok, so there wasnt one of the 12 cameras that you say exist that didnt capture the complete reversal of a 15 yard Texas penalty on a kickoff that ACTUALLY was a 15 yard penalty against the Aggies?
If it happened, it happend, but I've never seen that type of field position flip with zero explanation, from anyone, with no reason.
The Aggies lost because they didnt play well, I get that, but that's just insane to accept that with zero evidence.
Yall remember when they gave tu 20+ yards on the punt last week and spotted it where it was almost physically impossible?
Wasn't the game 20-17 here? A 20-30 yard flip in field position is a huge deal.
It came off as "block below the waist on return team".
Then the broadcast showed Texas at the 40 and they'd flipped the call.
Is there a block below the waist on the kicking team? What was the actual penalty?
It came off as "block below the waist on return team".
Then the broadcast showed Texas at the 40 and they'd flipped the call.
Is there a block below the waist on the kicking team? What was the actual penalty?
Phat32 said:
Wasn't the game 20-17 here? A 20-30 yard flip in field position is a huge deal.
It came off as "block below the waist on return team".
Then the broadcast showed Texas at the 40 and they'd flipped the call.
Is there a block below the waist on the kicking team? What was the actual penalty?
It was going to be half distance to goal and changed into great position
Was a "15-yd. penalty. Illegal chop block on Texas". (Points toward Texas A&M)
TAMUallen said:
Yall remember when they gave tu 20+ yards on the punt last week and spotted it where it was almost physically impossible?
So, just to be clear, it's your belief that the sips (one of the most penalized teams in football and THE most penalized in the SEC), somehow bought the refs this week to sway the game by throwing a bogus flag on a kickoff?
Like you really believe there's a conspiracy by the league or whoever to keep the Ags down, and the way they accomplish this fiendish task is by calling nonexistent flags?
I'm genuinely curious as you seem to carry this torch the furthest on all the various Gameday threads. It's an amazing perspective to observe.
levytrousersEOY said:TAMUallen said:
Yall remember when they gave tu 20+ yards on the punt last week and spotted it where it was almost physically impossible?
So, just to be clear, it's your belief that the sips (one of the most penalized teams in football and THE most penalized in the SEC), somehow bought the refs this week to sway the game by throwing a bogus flag on a punt?
Like you really believe there's a conspiracy by the league or whoever to keep the Ags down, and the way they accomplish this fiendish task is by calling nonexistent flags?
I'm genuinely curious as you seem to carry this torch the furthest on all the various Gameday threads. It's an amazing perspective to observe.
Not engaging you. You're trolling and youre a tsip poster on texags. We are discussing what actually happened.
dabo man said:
You'd need one camera that caught the play. This wouldn't be the first A&M game this season with a controversial penalty that went against the Ags and wasn't captured by an ESPN/ABC camera.
Show me the one camera out of 12, then? I've currently seen zero of them that would justify that call.
dabo man said:
You'd need one camera that caught the play. This wouldn't be the first A&M game this season with a controversial penalty that went against the Ags and wasn't captured by an ESPN/ABC camera.
So to sum up your argument, ESPN has 10-12 cameras to show, but zero of them were offered up to show justification of a 30 yard swing, for no reason, because they weren't captured by the same 10-12 cameras that you say exist?
Cool.
levytrousersEOY said:TAMUallen said:
Yall remember when they gave tu 20+ yards on the punt last week and spotted it where it was almost physically impossible?
So, just to be clear, it's your belief that the sips (one of the most penalized teams in football and THE most penalized in the SEC), somehow bought the refs this week to sway the game by throwing a bogus flag on a kickoff?
Like you really believe there's a conspiracy by the league or whoever to keep the Ags down, and the way they accomplish this fiendish task is by calling nonexistent flags?
I'm genuinely curious as you seem to carry this torch the furthest on all the various Gameday threads. It's an amazing perspective to observe.
So the most penalized team just stopped committing penalties for one SEC game?
You've replied to my last post three times at this point. I don't know if you're drunk and looking for an online fight or what.
ESPN produces these games on the cheap. I suspect their cameras didn't capture the play. That's just my two cents.
ESPN produces these games on the cheap. I suspect their cameras didn't capture the play. That's just my two cents.
dabo man said:
You've replied to my last post three times at this point. I don't know if you're drunk and looking for an online fight or what.
ESPN produces these games on the cheap. I suspect their cameras didn't capture the play. That's just my two cents.
My sweet summer child. Are you serious?
dabo man said:
You've replied to my last post three times at this point. I don't know if you're drunk and looking for an online fight or what.
ESPN produces these games on the cheap. I suspect their cameras didn't capture the play. That's just my two cents.
Idk his point but I will say it is entirely possible. However, I know they have an uncanny ability to come up with views of plays that you never even imagined were in existence, often during reviews. Somewhere there's a field wide view of this exact call. Mentioned it before but ESPN has specifically been very strange with showing replays, pausing replays and cutting away from views that might not fit in favorably for one team over another this year. Theyve done it in years past but this year has been ridiculously worse.
Watch an NFL game. There are 18 to 20 cameras there. When there's a replay, you have reverse angles available to you. Something that almost never happens in a college production. Relative to the NFL, college productions are nickel and dime.
vic99 said:
Sky cast was recorded on SEC Network. It looked like Brooks and 2 others got tangled up. Not worthy of a flag.
I think some of you missed this post
dabo man said:
Watch an NFL game. There are 18 to 20 cameras there. When there's a replay, you have reverse angles available to you. Something that almost never happens in a college production. Relative to the NFL, college productions are nickel and dime.
You do realize we were the number one prime time college game today/this week?
dabo man said:
Watch an NFL game. There are 18 to 20 cameras there. When there's a replay, you have reverse angles available to you. Something that almost never happens in a college production. Relative to the NFL, college productions are nickel and dime.
Im not going to argue with you, but if there was really a play that reversed field by 30 yards, I would at least expect one angle to explain it. There were zero.
No matter how many cameras you think that are available to prove fair-play, we were given none of those.
That officiating crew did a fantastic job tonight. Should get all the big games throughout the playoffs. They let both teams play and threw very little penalties aside from the obvious ones.
One of our guys went low on a kicking play like an idiot. Just another example of the team pissing down their leg and helping the other team win.
One of our guys went low on a kicking play like an idiot. Just another example of the team pissing down their leg and helping the other team win.
sleepybeagle said:
I'm not a fan of SEC refs
They are the absolute worst. There needs to be accountability.
And no questions about it in the press conference… why?? Not even by any of the Texags contingent… this was a huge call in the game…
tigerag said:
That officiating crew did a fantastic job tonight. Should get all the big games throughout the playoffs. They let both teams play and threw very little penalties aside from the obvious ones.
One of our guys went low on a kicking play like an idiot. Just another example of the team pissing down their leg and helping the other team win.
Prove it.
pinche gringo said:sleepybeagle said:
I'm not a fan of SEC refs
They are the absolute worst. There needs to be accountability.
Needs to be transparency on review process plus the persons behind it and their decisions to review/not review for every decision along with cited reasons in each case
Queso1 said:
Why is out kicking team even blocking people? Maybe Elko needs a conversation with the ST coach.
Hint: they weren't blocking anyone.
BadMoonRisin said:dabo man said:
Watch an NFL game. There are 18 to 20 cameras there. When there's a replay, you have reverse angles available to you. Something that almost never happens in a college production. Relative to the NFL, college productions are nickel and dime.
Im not going to argue with you, but if there was really a play that reversed field by 30 yards, I would at least expect one angle to explain it. There were zero.
No matter how many cameras you think that are available to prove fair-play, we were given none of those.
Reminds me of Daley Plaza in '63.
I'm fine if it was a penalty on the kicking team, and don't believe it's some Texas conspiracy. But:
1) what was the actual penalty? was never called
2) how often are penalties on the kicking team other than the obvious ones? almost never
3) then we just gloss over the massive reversal?
Just looking for any explanation
1) what was the actual penalty? was never called
2) how often are penalties on the kicking team other than the obvious ones? almost never
3) then we just gloss over the massive reversal?
Just looking for any explanation
Why would anyone on the kicking team block?
TexasRebel said:BadMoonRisin said:dabo man said:
Watch an NFL game. There are 18 to 20 cameras there. When there's a replay, you have reverse angles available to you. Something that almost never happens in a college production. Relative to the NFL, college productions are nickel and dime.
Im not going to argue with you, but if there was really a play that reversed field by 30 yards, I would at least expect one angle to explain it. There were zero.
No matter how many cameras you think that are available to prove fair-play, we were given none of those.
Reminds me of Daley Plaza in '63.
We definitely took it "back-and-to-the-left"
The penalty on the kick was some shady ****, because the referee who threw the flag said it was against the return team and even pointed at them when discussing with the head referee. He then called it on Texas and the next thing you know, they're marching it back the other way and three or four plays later they ****ing scored. The whole thing was horse ****, you NEVER EVER see a call against the kicking team, NEVER.
Now. to the "neutral zone infraction" bull***** What happened to the defense being able to jump over the line and get back before the ball is snapped?? Howell was so far away from that tackle, there is ZERO chance he caused the guy to jump. If you'll notice the o-lineman jumped on purpose, it makes zero sense especially when the defender doesn't make contact and isn't about to kill the QB.
Now. to the "neutral zone infraction" bull***** What happened to the defense being able to jump over the line and get back before the ball is snapped?? Howell was so far away from that tackle, there is ZERO chance he caused the guy to jump. If you'll notice the o-lineman jumped on purpose, it makes zero sense especially when the defender doesn't make contact and isn't about to kill the QB.
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