BraxtonW said:

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From my 21 years, we have been completely owned by Texas. Why is that, we fund on the same level, we support more. Just wonder why

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Right now, more years than not, they are better. It will flip. We can chat "CFP" and "11-1" all we want but we would lose to tOSU and UGA if we played them on road.

We got lucky this year with weak sked.

But things can turn. Lets beat them in 26!

Actually…. I believe they out spend us in the right areas

Arbitrary timeline choice. We had a 12 year head start in the SEC on them. We have not beaten them once now that they've joined. Beat us at home and away.

RightWingConspirator said:

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Arbitrary timeline choice. We had a 12 year head start in the SEC on them. We have not beaten them once now that they've joined. Beat us at home and away.

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Good point. Look, we will beat them again and likely soon. With a 3 year starter in Reed and better skill position players all around, i think it will be in 26.

We have every top skill guy back and remember Moss has never been healthy for this game.

But that said, we just have to beat these *******s. Any arbitrary starting point is typical of our weak a$$ fans whining and moaning.

I was a student in the early 2000s and they blew us out over and over again. They had Vince Young and the talent differential was massive. Then we started trading games with them even though we still sucked… we had some seriously gutsy performances by folks like Stephen McGee and the team massively overachieved in these games.

Losing 2 in a row is not the end of the world or being "owned" or whatever. Relax. I've seen worse.

Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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They will be in. Watch.

Elko will wear this ownership like a straight jacket if that becomes his brand. "He can't beat Texas" will ultimately cost him if it continues.

BraxtonW said:

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From my 21 years, we have been completely owned by tu. Why is that, we fund on the same level, we support more. Just wonder why

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They owned during the time of my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents, the days of no helmets and leather helmets, the wing T, and before plastics were invented. Since I was born, series is 19-20 in favor of tu.

Elko is 0-2 against Texas
Marcel Reed has not scored a single TD against Texas

That is what we extended via contract.

BraxtonW said:

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Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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yet they blew us out. My point. No matter Joe good we do, Texas comes in and runs us out of the stadium

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Look at the stats. They didn't blow is out. I don't think they even dominated. Reed threw two picks, Klein crapped the bed, and Bateman called a bad game and chose not to pressure Manning which was a huge mistake. If Concepcion tucks in his damned shirt and Zirkle doesn't kick a chip shot like he's kicking a 60 yarder, it's a different game. We lost the initiative, were out coached, and out played but we were not blown out or dominated.

Yall quickly forget how much Texas has sucked for over a decade prior to the past couples of years. Heck they had 4 seasons where they weren't even bowl eligible.

They've caught lightning in a bottle at a time that they moved to the SEC. They've had higher highs , but also lowers lows.

If they hadn't chickened out of our rivalry game when we left to the SEC, the past 15 years would probably be 10-5 with the Aggies ahead.

Texas is good, but they aren't elite. Elite teams don't lose to Florida. They just had our number this year.

The amount of wallowing self pity in this board right now is pathetic.

the 21st century has been unkind to the maroon-n-white in the rivalry

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the 21st century has been unkind to the maroon-n-white in the rivalry

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We haven't even played for most of the 21st century because our rival was afraid of us. It's worked out pretty well for them, though. We haven't been world beaters in that time span, but they were busy losing to the likes of Kansas.

We are 50/50 in my lifetime against tu. Not an excuse but our best RB didn't play and Reed hurt his ankle - but that doesn't explain our defensive performance yesterday or field goals.
We can still win the natty. We have everything to still play for this season. At the end of the day we get to be Texas Aggies.

Collin Klein has scored 2 TDs in 2 years against Texas.

120 minutes of football…2 TDs.

Texas scored 3 last night.

Until we build a roster equivalent to or better we will mostly get the same results. U don't win big games consistently against superior rosters.

and the really crazy thing...

the A&M coach who has done the best against the sips in the 21st century or in the past 30 years

is Coach Fran

go figure

Don't forget the refs. Last night they were gifted 30 yards on that kickoff that led to a TD, changing the momentum. They can't win without cheating.

BraxtonW said:

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Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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yet they blew us out. My point. No matter Joe good we do, Texas comes in and runs us out of the stadium

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I hate the loss but that wasn't a blowout.

To answer the question, this was a night game on the road and Texas' hail Mary at the playoffs. They played like it. Their OL had its best game of the year and the defense was locked in all night. Barely any missed tackles and they flew to the ball.

SociallyConditionedAg said:

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Don't forget the refs. Last night they were gifted 30 yards on that kickoff that led to a TD, changing the momentum. They can't win without cheating.

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Stop. The refs did not cost us the game. Several calls went our way in fact. We **** the bed, end of story

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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BraxtonW said:

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Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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yet they blew us out. My point. No matter Joe good we do, Texas comes in and runs us out of the stadium

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I hate the loss but that wasn't a blowout.

To answer the question, this was a night game on the road and Texas' hail Mary at the playoffs. They played like it. Their OL had its best game of the year and the defense was locked in all night. Barely any missed tackles and they flew to the ball.

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too bad the Aggies didn't benefit from the same type of coaching or motivation

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Ag1188 said:

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BraxtonW said:

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From my 21 years, we have been completely owned by Texas. Why is that, we fund on the same level, we support more. Just wonder why

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pretty sure it's not far from .500 the last 40 years or so.

They won the 2000s because they recruited infinitely better. Reed & Klein get my reasons for why they won these last two years.

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This. People need to stop feeding this. Our football programs are basically even since Texas A&M became a fully co-ed University. Since 1975 and until the end of the game in 2011, it was dead even. These first two games in the SEC, they snuck away with the first two. They were simply better last year, this year, IMO, we had our let down game (play calling was bad, though players made a few mistakes).

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So you're saying we would win more when we allow girl cheerleaders

HoustonAggie427 said:

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So you're saying we would win more when we allow girl cheerleaders

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Totally off topic, but I'm not opposed to adding girl cheerleaders. Most teams have multiple cheerleaders/dance squads anyway. It's not like they'd have to replace yell leaders. And it's an awfully big crowd for just 5 guys to pump up.

CFP.

Their main ownage was getting into the SEC.

They were about to fade into nothing.

We had enough influential people who wanted to play them again and here we are……….

via ChatGPT..
There are a few historical and structural reasons Texas (UT) has traditionally beaten Texas A&M in football and none of them are about "luck." Here's the real breakdown:

Why Texas Keeps Beating Texas A&M (Historically + Modern Reasons)

1. Texas has historically recruited at a slightly higher level
Both schools pull elite talent, but Texas has more Top-10 classes across the last 25 years.

• Texas sits in Austin, a national recruiting hub
• They traditionally pull from Dallas, Houston, and Central Texas
• A&M does extremely well too, but Texas often edges them out in 5-star talent

More elite depth usually = more wins in rivalry games.

2. Texas had stronger coaching eras
For long stretches:

• Mack Brown had Texas running like a machine (national titles, 10-win seasons, NFL talent pipeline)
• A&M had turbulence: coaching changes, conference moves, and inconsistent systems

Even if A&M had good teams, Texas often had elite ones.

3. The rivalry stopped during A&M's SEC years
This matters.
Texas A&M joined the SEC in 2012.
Texas stayed in the Big 12.
They didn't play for 13 years.
During that time:

• Texas rebuilt
• A&M rebuilt
• But Texas didn't lose to A&M simply because they didn't play

The narrative "Texas keeps beating A&M" comes from historical dominance, not recent games.
All-time record:
Texas leads 76375
That's a big gap.

4. Texas traditionally had deeper rosters
Across decades:

• More blue-chip depth
• More NFL players
• Bigger offensive/defensive lines
• Better QB pipeline

Games were often won in the trenches where Texas usually had more size and skill.

5. Cultural + institutional stability
Texas football is one of the wealthiest, largest, and most stable athletic brands in college sports.
A&M is also huge, but:

• More coaching turnover
• More systemic changes (Big 12 SEC)
• Rebuilding cycles
• Identity shifts

Texas benefited from consistency, especially pre-2010.

What About Now? (SEC Era 2024+)
Texas is currently trending up:

• Strong recruiting
• Strong QB development
• Physical SEC-ready roster
• Sark's system becoming elite

A&M is resetting again (new coach, recruiting transition).
So the pattern seems to be continuing Texas stable, A&M unstable.

But will this continue?
Not guaranteed.
A&M has:

• Massive NIL resources
• SEC recruiting power
• A talent-rich state
• Top-5 facilities

This rivalry could become much more balanced in the next 510 years.

Simple Answer
Texas keeps beating A&M because Texas historically had better recruiting, coaching stability, and program depth.The all-time dominance shapes the perception, and the modern trend still leans UT for now.

Why Texas' Schemes Work So Well vs A&M Defenses
1 Sark's offense attacks A&M's biggest defensive weakness: eye discipline
A&M (especially during the Fisher/Elko/Durkin years) struggled with:

• Over-pursuit
• Safeties getting caught in run fits
• LBs getting manipulated by motion
• DBs biting on RPO looks

Sark's offense is BUILT to punish exactly that.
Sark uses:

• Pre-snap motion
• Orbit motion
• Fake jet sweeps
• RPO looks that aren't really RPOs
• Play-action from pistol
• Layered crossing routes

A&M's defenses often play fast but not disciplineda bad matchup vs a coordinator known for using eye candy.

2 Texas forces A&M to defend space sideline-to-sideline
A&M traditionally loads the box and tries to win with their DL (which is good).
But Sark widens the field with:

• Bunch formations
• Stack releases
• Wide splits
• Horizontal stretch plays

This pulls A&M's LBs and safeties out of their comfort zone.
When A&M has to defend width, they lose the advantage of their DL depth.

3 Texas attacks A&M's man coverage with rubs, stacks, and leverage routes
A&M LOVES man coverage (especially press-man).
Sark LOVES punishing man coverage.
He uses:

• Pick plays (legal rubs)
• Switch releases
• Option routes
• Slot fades
• Crossers

This puts A&M corners in "chase mode," which is exactly where Texas wants them.
Texas WRs elite at separation
A&M DBs strong physically, weaker at change-of-direction
Bad matchup.

4 Texas uses formations that punish A&M's aggressive DL
A&M's pass rush wants to get upfield.
Texas slows that down by running:

• Split-zone
• Counter
• GH counter
• Trap
• Draw from shotgun
• Quick game RPO

These all use a DL's aggression against them.
You get:

Quote:

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DL upfield RB hits behind them
DL stunts Sark calls a counter he knew would beat it
DL over-pursuit Texas pulls behind the motion

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A&M's strength becomes a liability.

5 Texas wins the "QB battle of leverage"
Texas quarterbacks under Sark (Ewers / Arch next) are coached to:

• Throw where defenders aren't
• Key off the weakest coverage defender
• Attack leverage instantly
• Trust timing windows

A&M's QBs historically need the play to be clean.
Texas QBs are trained to win with anticipation and scheme advantages.

6 Sark designs his playbook to make the defense wrong… no matter what
A&M's DCs historically operate off "win with talent" and base looks.
Sark's philosophy:

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"If you play man, I'll beat it with picks.
If you play zone, I'll flood it.
If you blitz, I'll RPO you.
If you sit back, I'll run counter until you move."

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A&M often reacts.
Texas dictates.
That's why Texas frequently gets wide-open receivers, chunk plays, and easy scoring opportunities.

Most Basic Explanation
Texas forces A&M to think.
A&M plays best when they don't have to think.
Sark is a master at creating:

• Misdirection
• Eye confusion
• Leverage mismatches
• Formation stress
• Bad angles

A&Mespecially at linebacker and safetyhas consistently struggled in these areas.

Bottom Line
Texas' offense is a schematic mismatch for A&M's defensive style.
Texas = spacing, motion, leverage, and reading defenders
A&M = talent, aggression, and base defense
When you combine those two, Texas' scheme naturally wins the chess match.

Texas Defense vs Texas A&M Offense: Who Wins Where?
Texas' defense under Pete Kwiatkowski / Gary Patterson influence is built on:

• DL dominance
• Gap integrity
• Pattern-match zone
• Physicality in the box
• Making you play left-handed

A&M's offense in most recent eras (Fisher Petrino Elko new OC) has been:

• Power run
• Play-action
• RPO
• Screens
• Isolated outside receivers

This is a matchup that naturally favors Texas for the same reasons Texas dominates Alabama/OU matchups on defense.

1 Texas DL vs A&M OL Advantage Texas (by a lot)
Texas' defensive line is the backbone:

• Big, violent interior (Sweat, Murphy, successors)
• Long edge players
• Excellent at destroying duo/inside zone

A&M's offensive line historically:

• Struggles with twists & stunts
• Struggles to generate movement vs elite fronts
• Gives up pressure on long-developing plays

Texas wins in the trenches, forcing A&M into:

• 2nd & 9
• 3rd & long
• Passing situations they don't want

This is the matchup that dictates everything.

2 Texas Stops What A&M Does Best: RPO + Play-action
A&M's best bread-and-butter calls:

• Glance RPO
• Inside zone RPO
• Over routes
• Play-action deep shots

Texas' defense is built to stop RPO teams because:
The DL doesn't get washed
They stay in gaps QB handoffs become predictable.
LBs don't overreact
Texas LBs play slow fast.
They read first, then trigger.
Safeties don't bite on play-action
They play disciplined, two-high shells kills big plays.
A&M thrives on "chunk plays off linebackers biting."
Texas linebackers don't bite.

3 Texas IRONS OUT the short passing game A&M relies on
A&M uses short passes to make up for run struggles:

• Bubbles
• Screens
• Quick outs
• Hitches

Texas corners & safeties love to trigger downhill and hit.
Guys like Ryan Watts, Jerrin Thompson, Catalon, Guilbeau are built for:

• Blow-up screens
• Kill the quick game
• Force 2nd-and-long

A&M loses its "easy yards" vs Texas.

4 Texas' coverage style beats A&M's passing structure
A&M's passing game (Fisher, Petrino, and likely Elko's OC too) uses:

• Spacing
• Basic floods
• Smash routes
• Isolated outside WRs

Texas' match-zone coverage counters this:
Corners play physical eliminate easy outside wins
Safeties play disciplined no free explosives
LBs drop well take away seams
Texas forces A&M to earn every yard.
A&M rarely sustains long drives vs disciplined defenses.

5 Texas is elite at eliminating the run game entirely
A&M wants to run:

• Inside zone
• Duo
• Counter
• Power

Texas stops all of these because:

• Interior DL is too strong
• Edges set hard edges
• LBs fill gaps without guessing

When A&M can't run, their offense becomes:

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"QB dropback passing game behind a shaky OL"

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…and that's when Texas forces:

• sacks
• turnovers
• panic throws
• stalled drives

6 Texas disguises coverages far better than A&M QBs handle
This is the biggest hidden mismatch.
Texas will:

• Show two-high rotate to cover 3
• Show cover 3 play quarters
• Buzz safeties into slants
• Invert coverage to trap curls

A&M QBs historically struggle when:

• The picture changes post-snap
• They're forced off first read
• They must process rotations

Texas thrives on confusing quarterbacks who need "clean looks."

Final Matchup Summary
Area
EdgeDL vs OL
Texas
Run defense vs A&M run game
Texas
RPO / play-action defense
Texas
Deep shots
Texas (safeties stay disciplined)
Screen game
Texas (too fast, too physical)
QB processing
Texas
Explosive plays allowed
Texas
Overall Advantage: Texas Defense (Comfortably)
A&M's offense struggles against physical, disciplined defenses, and that's exactly what Texas is built to be.
Texas forces A&M to play "left-handed," which becomes:

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A&M trying to win with a dropback passing game
behind an offensive line that can't hold up
against a Texas front designed to destroy gaps.

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That's why Texas consistently shuts down teams like A&M.

Because like it or not, their football team is better than us.

And until we REALLY change that, this trend will continue.

Forty Million reasons?

BraxtonW said:

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Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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yet they blew us out. My point. No matter Joe good we do, Texas comes in and runs us out of the stadium

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blow out?? Lost by 10

409Kat said:

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Texas Defense vs Texas A&M Offense: Who Wins Where?
Texas' defense under Pete Kwiatkowski / Gary Patterson influence is built on:

• DL dominance
• Gap integrity
• Pattern-match zone
• Physicality in the box
• Making you play left-handed

A&M's offense in most recent eras (Fisher Petrino Elko new OC) has been:

• Power run
• Play-action
• RPO
• Screens
• Isolated outside receivers

This is a matchup that naturally favors Texas for the same reasons Texas dominates Alabama/OU matchups on defense.

1 Texas DL vs A&M OL Advantage Texas (by a lot)
Texas' defensive line is the backbone:

• Big, violent interior (Sweat, Murphy, successors)
• Long edge players
• Excellent at destroying duo/inside zone

A&M's offensive line historically:

• Struggles with twists & stunts
• Struggles to generate movement vs elite fronts
• Gives up pressure on long-developing plays

Texas wins in the trenches, forcing A&M into:

• 2nd & 9
• 3rd & long
• Passing situations they don't want

This is the matchup that dictates everything.

2 Texas Stops What A&M Does Best: RPO + Play-action
A&M's best bread-and-butter calls:

• Glance RPO
• Inside zone RPO
• Over routes
• Play-action deep shots

Texas' defense is built to stop RPO teams because:
The DL doesn't get washed
They stay in gaps QB handoffs become predictable.
LBs don't overreact
Texas LBs play slow fast.
They read first, then trigger.
Safeties don't bite on play-action
They play disciplined, two-high shells kills big plays.
A&M thrives on "chunk plays off linebackers biting."
Texas linebackers don't bite.

3 Texas IRONS OUT the short passing game A&M relies on
A&M uses short passes to make up for run struggles:

• Bubbles
• Screens
• Quick outs
• Hitches

Texas corners & safeties love to trigger downhill and hit.
Guys like Ryan Watts, Jerrin Thompson, Catalon, Guilbeau are built for:

• Blow-up screens
• Kill the quick game
• Force 2nd-and-long

A&M loses its "easy yards" vs Texas.

4 Texas' coverage style beats A&M's passing structure
A&M's passing game (Fisher, Petrino, and likely Elko's OC too) uses:

• Spacing
• Basic floods
• Smash routes
• Isolated outside WRs

Texas' match-zone coverage counters this:
Corners play physical eliminate easy outside wins
Safeties play disciplined no free explosives
LBs drop well take away seams
Texas forces A&M to earn every yard.
A&M rarely sustains long drives vs disciplined defenses.

5 Texas is elite at eliminating the run game entirely
A&M wants to run:

• Inside zone
• Duo
• Counter
• Power

Texas stops all of these because:

• Interior DL is too strong
• Edges set hard edges
• LBs fill gaps without guessing

When A&M can't run, their offense becomes:

Quote:

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"QB dropback passing game behind a shaky OL"

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…and that's when Texas forces:

• sacks
• turnovers
• panic throws
• stalled drives

6 Texas disguises coverages far better than A&M QBs handle
This is the biggest hidden mismatch.
Texas will:

• Show two-high rotate to cover 3
• Show cover 3 play quarters
• Buzz safeties into slants
• Invert coverage to trap curls

A&M QBs historically struggle when:

• The picture changes post-snap
• They're forced off first read
• They must process rotations

Texas thrives on confusing quarterbacks who need "clean looks."

Final Matchup Summary
Area
EdgeDL vs OL
Texas
Run defense vs A&M run game
Texas
RPO / play-action defense
Texas
Deep shots
Texas (safeties stay disciplined)
Screen game
Texas (too fast, too physical)
QB processing
Texas
Explosive plays allowed
Texas
Overall Advantage: Texas Defense (Comfortably)
A&M's offense struggles against physical, disciplined defenses, and that's exactly what Texas is built to be.
Texas forces A&M to play "left-handed," which becomes:

Quote:

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A&M trying to win with a dropback passing game
behind an offensive line that can't hold up
against a Texas front designed to destroy gaps.

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That's why Texas consistently shuts down teams like A&M.

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they had 2 good games all year

DimebagsGhost said:

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BraxtonW said:

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Jimbo4win said:

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11-1 hosting first round of playoffs. They aren't in the playoffs.

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yet they blew us out. My point. No matter Joe good we do, Texas comes in and runs us out of the stadium

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blow out?? Lost by 10

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I'll rephrase it because I was a little mad after the game I'll admit. They dominated and controlled the whole second half. Was really no hope

1975 is not at all "arbitrary," and this has been discussed ad nauseum many times. Required reading for all.

In short, if you believe A&M should have a more balanced record vs Texas prior to 1965, then you must believe Navy, Air Force Academy, Army, the Citadel, etc., all should be competitive with Clemson, Florida, Michigan, Bama, or even Auburn. Totally no excuse for them to not be even with those schools?

In 1965, Corps membership became non-mandatory. While women were also allowed to enroll without restriction in 1965, the first female dorms did not open on campus until 1974. This reflected the fact that it took 10 years to fully convert all-male, military-minded TAMC to a fully co-ed state school, Texas A&M University.

My female cousin was class of 1975. By her accounts, and guesses at male-female ratio, she was around the first graduating class at A&M where it was a roughly 60/40 male/female ratio and the school could say it was a university that equally drew Texas students on par with Texas U.