Mond was slightly worse but improving each year. They aren't that different. The biggest difference is the interceptions. And that's something Mond improved on dramatically in his best year.

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John Fisher Pessimist said:

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Meh. Pass pro was fine. Run blocking was okay. Happy feet and lack of accuracy were the killers down the stretch.

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lol wut? The o line was atrocious Saturday. How many times was reed sacked and how many times did the pocket collapse before he could even make a check down read? Run blocking was terrible as well. Reed accounted for the majority of our rush yards

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Dude. It's easy to make an OL look atrocious because they stack the box and don't worry about the pass. The Canes correctly concluded that Marcel could not hit the broad side of a barn. So they stacked the box and pinned their ears back. If Marcel had shown the passing competence of even an average SEC quarterback we would have lit them up. Because of their defensive scheme we had receivers open all day and Marcel just couldn't connect.

Marcel Reed seems to be a great young man, gifted athlete and great teammate. His throwing mechanics are not correctable. Haynes King had the same issue with his mechanics, still does, but overcame the issue by making running the ball his main weapon. King was the leading rusher in 8 games for Georgia Tech in 2025. Marcel is too fragile for that to happen and his hesitancy to run for fear of injury is apparent. He would do well at Kansas State. I hope he gets that opportunity....soon.

In hindsight, I think Reed is at his best when he doesn't have time to think. We had to play quick the whole second half of the SC game. He was able to drive late against ND, tu and Miami. Unfortunately, for the last two, when he got into scoring position with a plenty of time on the clock, he couldn't finish the drive. Maybe he's just in his own head too much.

It's a common theme. A singular read is Reed's preferred offense by far.

His last drives against Miami and against USC in the bowl last year are very, very similar (the meat of the drives, not their respective endings). He can execute decisively when he only has 1 thing to check. I imagine most talented athletes can

It's just too bad one can't run an offense like that at all times

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TxAg76 said:

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I would also add that many QBs have a limit to what they can process. To overload them is the worst thing a coach can do. I never saw evidence that we had gotten more complicated, but it is possible. I did think Klein should have tried to get some quick easy throws to get Reed in a rhythm which we did very late but I think Klein's head was in the clouds all day and probably the last 3 weeks.

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Good lord, he threw several quick and easys....and missed most of them by 6+ feet.
The receivers shouldn't have to be circus acrobats just to have a chance to make a catch.

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Klein had 3 weeks from the tu game to help Marcel get back into an acceptable zone. No need to pretend that was just Reed's normal accuracy because if he played like that all season we would be 6-6. If they worked on setting his feet, making quick reads and getting the ball out it sure didn't show up. All of those things should have been high priority…UM's D-Line wasn't a secret. Maybe they worked tirelessly and Reed just couldn't or wouldn't get it down. I just doubt it…lousy game plan, lousy performance and the same crap as the tu game but worse. If it had been my call, since Reed wasn't just struggling but was hurting the team, he would have been yanked after the interception. But we just screwed around and struggled to get 3 on the board in a win or go home game. Klein has a big hand in all of that and I'm having trouble believing his mind was on this game to the extent needed.

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You have no idea what they did (or didn't) work on since the t.u. game.
You could coach a kid for a full month, every day, and he may do it perfectly for every day of that same month.

But they've still gotta do it when the lights are on, and the bullets are flying.
He clearly didn't do it.

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AggieBB said:

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John Fisher Pessimist said:

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Meh. Pass pro was fine. Run blocking was okay. Happy feet and lack of accuracy were the killers down the stretch.

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lol wut? The o line was atrocious Saturday. How many times was reed sacked and how many times did the pocket collapse before he could even make a check down read? Run blocking was terrible as well. Reed accounted for the majority of our rush yards

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Dude. It's easy to make an OL look atrocious because they stack the box and don't worry about the pass. The Canes correctly concluded that Marcel could not hit the broad side of a barn. So they stacked the box and pinned their ears back. If Marcel had shown the passing competence of even an average SEC quarterback we would have lit them up. Because of their defensive scheme we had receivers open all day and Marcel just couldn't connect.

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Technically they didn't stack the box. At least not by formation.
That's just a good job disguising their intent.

Once the ball was snapped, yeah, they were coming hard for the run with numbers. Because they learned they had no reason to be afraid of Reed's passing.

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Eagle78 said:

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AggieBB said:

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John Fisher Pessimist said:

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Meh. Pass pro was fine. Run blocking was okay. Happy feet and lack of accuracy were the killers down the stretch.

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lol wut? The o line was atrocious Saturday. How many times was reed sacked and how many times did the pocket collapse before he could even make a check down read? Run blocking was terrible as well. Reed accounted for the majority of our rush yards

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Dude. It's easy to make an OL look atrocious because they stack the box and don't worry about the pass. The Canes correctly concluded that Marcel could not hit the broad side of a barn. So they stacked the box and pinned their ears back. If Marcel had shown the passing competence of even an average SEC quarterback we would have lit them up. Because of their defensive scheme we had receivers open all day and Marcel just couldn't connect.

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Technically they didn't stack the box. At least not by formation.
That's just a good job disguising their intent.

Once the ball was snapped, yeah, they were coming hard for the run with numbers. Because they learned they had no reason to be afraid of Reed's passing.

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Again, the wind conditions were also awful for accurate throwing, hence why both QB's struggled mightily. Even more frustrating that we didn't force them to beat us in the air and let them do it on the ground.

Not saying the OL doesn't struggle at times, but Reed does them no favors. He is slow to process, holds the ball too long, and will move into pressure. His pocket presence is pretty bad

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Reed didn't play well, but people laying the losses on him don't watch football. But going back, this forum has wanted a new quarterback every year since 2013. At some point, it isn't the quarterback. This year, OL is trash at run blocking and suspect at best at pass protection. Running backs can't break a tackle. Play calling is suspect as well. With all of that, it falls to Reed, who isn't doing himself any favors. We need to buy an offensive line, and a coach that knows how to run one. That will help the backs, but we could probably use at least one of those as well.

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I've watched plenty of college football ... for about 60 years now. And Reed was God awful in both of our losses this year AND the first half of the South Carolina game. It WAS the quarterback in all three of those games. Agreed, we were handicapped with Klein. He, too, was God awful at what seemingly were some of the more critical moments in many games. But, in my opinion, was more inconsistent throughout the season. Field vision. Footwork. Pocket presence. Decision making. Overthrowing. Under throwing. Lacking touch. Poor mechanics. One never knew whether we would get "good Marcel" or "bad Marcel" from week to week, quarter to quarter, or play to play. A QB coach can't help him with the jitters. Neither can a new OC. He is what he is. If Elko doesn't get this and fails to open things up for a REAL QB competition, get ready for a very painful, less-than 8-4 season.

Yeah, he's the guy that talked **** online and got beat by the D line on every play. He's the running back that can't pick up 2 yards without falling down. He's the guys up front that can't generate a push for the run game. He played like ****, not doubt, but he's not the only one responsible for the loss.

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TxAg76 said:

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Eagle78 said:

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AggieBB said:

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John Fisher Pessimist said:

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Meh. Pass pro was fine. Run blocking was okay. Happy feet and lack of accuracy were the killers down the stretch.

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lol wut? The o line was atrocious Saturday. How many times was reed sacked and how many times did the pocket collapse before he could even make a check down read? Run blocking was terrible as well. Reed accounted for the majority of our rush yards

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Dude. It's easy to make an OL look atrocious because they stack the box and don't worry about the pass. The Canes correctly concluded that Marcel could not hit the broad side of a barn. So they stacked the box and pinned their ears back. If Marcel had shown the passing competence of even an average SEC quarterback we would have lit them up. Because of their defensive scheme we had receivers open all day and Marcel just couldn't connect.

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Technically they didn't stack the box. At least not by formation.
That's just a good job disguising their intent.

Once the ball was snapped, yeah, they were coming hard for the run with numbers. Because they learned they had no reason to be afraid of Reed's passing.

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Again, the wind conditions were also awful for accurate throwing, hence why both QB's struggled mightily. Even more frustrating that we didn't force them to beat us in the air and let them do it on the ground.

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Long throws, sure. Mid throws, not as much. But damn, he was missing pretty bad on his short throws too.
It was a bad outing all the way around for #10.

As I've mentioned before, Reed is generally a fiddy fiddy passer at less than 20 yards. At > 20 yards, he's more like 25-75 (benefit of the doubt).

Overall, Reed is much like Mond... neither could hit my grandmother with a pass, and she's been dead over 20 years !

He was a turnover machine in the last three games and they were his fault.

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AggieBB said:

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Meh. Pass pro was fine. Run blocking was okay. Happy feet and lack of accuracy were the killers down the stretch.

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lol wut? The o line was atrocious Saturday. How many times was reed sacked and how many times did the pocket collapse before he could even make a check down read? Run blocking was terrible as well. Reed accounted for the majority of our rush yards

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Dude. It's easy to make an OL look atrocious because they stack the box and don't worry about the pass. The Canes correctly concluded that Marcel could not hit the broad side of a barn. So they stacked the box and pinned their ears back. If Marcel had shown the passing competence of even an average SEC quarterback we would have lit them up. Because of their defensive scheme we had receivers open all day and Marcel just couldn't connect.

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Technically they didn't stack the box. At least not by formation.
That's just a good job disguising their intent.

Once the ball was snapped, yeah, they were coming hard for the run with numbers. Because they learned they had no reason to be afraid of Reed's passing.

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Again, the wind conditions were also awful for accurate throwing, hence why both QB's struggled mightily. Even more frustrating that we didn't force them to beat us in the air and let them do it on the ground.

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The last time we blamed poor QB play on adverse wind conditions was the 2022 spring game if I recall correctly. I think the correct takeaway then is the correct takeaway now:

Our QB play is subpar.


And as already noted, short passes wouldn't have time to be affected by the wind. Marcel wasn't on-target even with his fastball (the best choice against wind)

A few things need improvement. One of them is the QB.

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Reed didn't play well, but people laying the losses on him don't watch football.

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It appears YOU are the one that doesn't watch much football. Try watching QB's that can hit receivers in stride or don't make the WR's have to make huge adjustments just to catch the ball on Bubble Screens. You might actually learn something about the importance of allowing the receivers or RB's the best opportunity for yards after the catch.

Is it all his fault...of course not, but if he did those things I mentioned in the first paragraph you would see a tremendous difference in both the success of our offense and the way defenses play us.

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A few things need improvement. One of them is the QB.

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The thing is…we're sitting here undefeated right now with a better QB.

At some point, it IS the QB

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Name a 70% A&M passer.

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Kyle Allen was probably the best pure passer. Until Sumlin ruined him, and ran him off...with Kyler Murray.

Owens had 21 yards on 7 carries and Moss had 15 yards on 7 carries. That is LOL level of running the ball

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Name a 70% A&M passer.

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Johnny was the closest at 68.9% for his career.

Interestingly...

Kenny Hill was 67.1% in his 1 season
Ryan Tannehill was 62.5%
Max Johnson was 61.7%
Marcel is 61.6% for his career

And, Connor Blumrick was 100% with 1 pass completion and 1 pass attempt

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He is Ass My Dude said:

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Name a 70% A&M passer.

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Johnny was the closest at 68.9% for his career.

Interestingly...

Kenny Hill was 67.1% in his 1 season
Ryan Tannehill was 62.5%
Max Johnson was 61.7%
Marcel is 61.6% for his career

And, Connor Blumrick was 100% with 1 pass completion and 1 pass attempt

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Connor McQueen would have been legendary