Heartbreaking. I can't imagine. I've thought that it's got to be his idea. I don't think anyone can save someone that doesn't want to be saved.

Some people grow up fast, some grow up slow, some never grow up. Johnny has missed the boat on the first option and is somewhere between slow and never. Only he can fix himself. I am sure family and friends and those he is close to have advised him but that isn't working. Hopefully he sorts himself.

Johnny is our radio. Time to let him go.

I dont believe any amount of support from us would change him. Mainly because his priorities have not shifted. He loves the school no ones saying he doesn't, but he loves the scene life more.. we (the university) are just not his priority.

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As someone who lost an adult son to a drug overdose (after a long, painful, heart breaking journey), I can tell you that you can beg them to to go to rehab, you can take them to rehab, you can tell them to get their act together, etc.- but you cannot love them enough to make them right. Only they can do that, and until they are ready to take the lead to recovery, all you can do is love them and pray for them. Addiction is a horrible disease where rehab is only successful <70% of the time at best and overdose death leads to a life filled with grief, tears, a broken heart, as well as times of second guessing and anger (at your child, yourself- and even God)- I've experienced all of that in the last almost seven years.

So it is easy to have an opinion about something you may never have faced, it is easy to call an addict ugly names, it is easy to say all they have to do straighten up, it is easy to say we need to push them to a better life, etc.- but we have no control over that person's life until they reach out for help. I pray JFF finds his inner peace, finds Jesus (if he does not already know him) and finds his path to recovery for himself and nobody else- and a life filled with many blessings.

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I am truly sorry for your loss.

I read the book Beautiful Boy and also watched the movie. It describes what you say to a T.

I hope and pray when he hits rock bottom he can have an experience that you hear about once in a while where God can reach his soul and change his life.

Thank you.
I too read the book and watched the movie- it was very difficult and reached too close to home.
I too pray that Johnny sees the light and decides he is ready to turn around his life. God can do great things.

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Such a strange thing to declare that he had the norovirus. He somehow already knew that he had the virus by early Saturday morning and yet was partying until early AM Saturday morning. No way you go from partying at midnight to declaring norovirus a couple hours later.
You just say stomach bug or something generic. It was a lie.


It felt like Johnny was slowly gaining credibility and then was invited to a huge platform for the biggest game A&M has hosted ever and he flushed more than his norovirus down the toilet. Doubt he gets another invite like that ever again. I imagine you don't get to leave the Game Day crew high and dry at the last minute and ever get that opportunity again.

Since the game, I've tried to stay away from the football board but I obviously heard about the no show. What was the reason? I assume alcohol?

I don't have ESPN, what happened?

And are baptized into Christ (buried with Christ in baptism) for the remission of sins - Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Rom 6:3-11,18, Col 2:12-13, I Peter 3:21, and multiple other verses.

I heard he didn't make the Aggie ESPN game cause he rather watch a clown try to fight a real boxer. Pick your friends wisely and stop acting middle age crazy.

My favorite thing is that he's sporting the Drake bling like it's 2013 or whatever.

Or like he's not white

Rubicante said:

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Another month another thread simping over sweet lil Johnny. Go to any frathouse in America and you'll be able to find at least one over-drugged and over-sexxed ******bag with equal claims to sainthood, but because he made Aggie football exciting for a few seasons you can't stop drooling over what might have been if Johnny Manziel was… someone other than Johnny Manziel.

Also for those who can't figure out if Johnny's wealthy or not, regular Joes don't have parties in Miami Beach penthouses while they are unemployed. Hope this helps.

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Manziel took your girl or something? Football speaking without Manziel we would be even more than afterthought than we are now.

I appreciate how Johnny Manziel single-handedly transformed Texas A&M from an SEC newcomer to a nationally relevant powerhouse, but he became an NFL bust because he never watched a second of tape to prepare for NFL games. The only way Manziel can get his life together is to completes an intensive rehab program for a bipolar disorder and cuts out bad influences.

Johnny is flawed and he is perfect.

JFF just needs to ride off into the sunset.

"we owe him a legacy"

??????????


I'm not sure I've ever read anything so foolish here. and that's saying a bunch!

He did cool things on the field while he was here but you can't save those who don't want to be saved. Ask anyone who is close to an addict.

Look at that picture above. Dude is f'ing faaaaded. At some point he made the conscious and sober decision to start putting himself in that position. Despite his obligation and expectations of an entire fanbase who clings to hope for him the very next day.

Wish no ill will of course but I no longer "support" him and his efforts to be associated with our beloved school. Just another failed and washed up athlete in a world full of them.

Thread title would make a great band name

Sometimes a person has to hit rock bottom before they are willing to change.

Johnny has made all of his upside-down decisions. He lives with his decisions good or bad. No one but Johnny can help Johnny!

Asking, wanting, wishing for a person to become someone they have never been is going to have a low % chance for a win.

How does a person, any person, even start that path?

Step 1

"We admitted we were powerless over "x" and our lives had become unmanageable"

Gotta do that for yourself - no one can do it for you.

Not my place to judge. Some of us believe there is one being for that. Ima let said being make that call.

I've got my own issues to deal with regarding "saving" John will sure enough figure his out as well. Let him do it at his pace.
I just finished watching the Netflix bio on Johnny; and aside from classic Netflix influence; still brought back the great memories Johnny brought to Aggieland so many years back. Was so fun to get to watch, was hilarious how the football world "had" to pay attention to Texas A&M during Johnny's time there fer good or bad (all good fer me) piss on the rest of the so called football world. It is unfortunate how so many of us loved the product on the field, but disagreed with the product off the field; even though one could not happen with out the other. There's always a price

Keep your head up high John. Hope you get the help you need, if in fact there is any help you need..

Tom Moore '96

Johnny needs to grow up and save himself.

I do think he needs a statue at Kyle Field, as does Dat Nguyen and other major award winners, not just JDC. We need to market our elite players and past on field success.

There should also be a plaque with names of all conference and all American players names and years listed.